Re: IML: '60 Imperial Back End

[Ken W Stephenson <kss37215@xxxxxxxx>]

Amen.

On Sat, 21 May 2005 00:00:57 -0700 "jsadowski" <jsadowski@xxxxxxx>
writes:
> I guess such statements could be made about many cars of that time. 
> Given 
> that fact, the Imperial fit right in.
> John
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ken W Stephenson" <kss37215@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 11:24 PM
> Subject: Re: IML: '60 Imperial Back End
> 
> 
> > No offense, but there is no accounting for taste.  In my opinion, 
> since
> > that is the qualifier, the car's just overdone.  As for 
> "slamming"
> > certain Imperials, let's face it.  Call a spade a spade.  Are we 
> to
> > dogmatically worship these things?  Langworth's "grotesque" 
> description
> > is not far off, but can apply to a lot of Ford and GM models too.  
> As a
> > serious student of industrial design, it seem to me (of course, in 
> my
> > opinion) that Chrysler never realized when they had a good thing 
> going,
> > like the clean, refined 1958 version, and just subtly enhance it 
> every
> > year.  It would have appealed to the niche buyer who appreciated 
> quality
> > design and engineering.  A market that they, and others, have 
> continually
> > underestimated.  Look at the jump they would have had!  A 1958 
> Imperial
> > Lexus!  No, they chased Cadillac and Lincoln for the brass ring!
> > Of course, planned obsolescence was still in vogue, and the mass 
> buying
> > public wanted, or were conditioned to want by Madison Avenue, new 
> sheet
> > metal at least every 3 years.  Just as you can only slice bologna 
> so many
> > ways, you can only bend sheet metal so many ways. And every time 
> you bend
> > it, it's another learning curve to seal new leaks and rust.
> > For what it is worth, in my opinion, and lifetime, the best years 
> for
> > Imperial as far as design and engineering are concerned, and the 
> ones I
> > would collect are; 1954, 1956 (late production only), 1958, 1962, 
> 1963,
> > 1966, 1968, and the early 80's.  Early 70's cars of all makes were
> > gutted, debased, and castrated by the political environmentalists 
> and
> > their special interests.  May they all go to that great hole in 
> the sky.
> > My humble opinion, of course.
> > Ken Stephenson
> >
> > On Fri, 20 May 2005 19:33:48 -0700 "jsadowski" 
> <jsadowski@xxxxxxx>
> > writes:
> >> I have to agree that the 60 is one of the best lookers. When I 
> first
> >> started
> >> noticing Imperials in the early sixties, the 60 is the one I 
> really
> >> wanted.
> >> John
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: <RandalPark@xxxxxxx>
> >> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 7:08 PM
> >> Subject: Re: IML: '60 Imperial Back End
> >>
> >>
> >> >I am also one who finds the '60 Imperial very attractive from 
> any
> >> angle.
> >> >Believe me, over the years I have put up with criticism from 
> many
> >> others
> >> >about the various styling components that I especially like. 
> These
> >> include
> >> >the massive grill, the dual pod dash arrangement, and the shape 
> of
> >> the tail
> >> >fins. People who don't know anything about old cars just think 
> they
> >> are
> >> >GREAT, but within Imperial and other old car circles, the 1960
> >> model
> >> >definitely has its detractors. I think that I once read Richard
> >> Langworth
> >> >describe it as "grotesque". At that time I considered having a
> >> Richard
> >> >Langworth Book Burning, but have since been very glad that I 
> didn't
> >> do it.
> >> >
> >> > I guess I will always be partial to 1960 because I grew up 
> with
> >> one. I was
> >> > seven or eight years old when my parents bought theirs, and I
> >> still have
> >> > it.
> >> >
> >> > I also have always thought that the 1961 Lincoln Continental 
> was a
> >>
> >> > fantastic and beautiful design. To me, that confirms that my 
> love
> >> of the
> >> > 1960 Imperial is not due to any lack of taste, or appreciation 
> of
> >> good
> >> > design on my part.
> >> >
> >> > I agree with Wayne's point, which I think is that beauty is in 
> the
> >> eye of
> >> > the beholder, and thank goodness we each have our own 
> perspective
> >> on the
> >> > subject.
> >> >
> >> > Paul W.
> >> >
> >> > In an email dated 21/5/2005 1:16:35 am GMT Daylight time, 
> "Wayne
> >> Michaels"
> >> > <baker-michaels@xxxxxxx> writes:
> >> >
> >> >>Ken, What you might end your comment about 60 and 61 Imperials
> >> with is "
> >> in
> >> >>my opinion" I happen to think the 60 is one of the best looking 
> of
> >> the
> >> >>outrageous designed Imperials, that is my opinion. I also 
> think
> >> the
> >> >>Continental Mark II is the most beautiful car ever built, but
> >> that, again,
> >> >>is my opinion. I can't stand 57 Chevy's, but many people like
> >> them. Thank
> >> >>goodness we don't all like the same thing, just think what the
> >> prices
> >> >>would
> >> >>be on the one that every one wanted and liked. Bob
> >> >>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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