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mikes2nd
Posted 2023-11-06 11:05 AM (#632618)
Subject: My 58 Belvedere project... uh oh...


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LolI know 75% are rolling their eyes...

Its Probably gonna be red, but i was thinking black would be cool also...

Bought a 58 Belevedere coupe 7-8 years ago? then ran into my 57 Dodge... So the 57 Dodge is almost done but got a super clean sedan body from John(thanks A TON!)... underneath is ready to go onto a clean frame so i have to cut up the coupe and take the roof off.

The guy had replaced one rocker on the passenger side and the quarter panel looks okay, I might sell it off or use it for parts.

Roof swapping looks "reasonable".  I'm just trying to get this project buttoned up for winter(old body scrapped, no one on frame).

Only one reasonable spot to repair on the new body floor...  I will probably lean towards a 440 or a 413 if i can get it unstuck with 4 wheel disc brakes, I already have the 8.8 posi for it.





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Lancer Mike
Posted 2023-11-07 7:41 PM (#632638 - in reply to #632618)
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Super cool!  The blue one almost looks like a business coupe, but it can't be because it is a Belvedere.  It looks like a fun project and you know the nice thing: it is your car so you can do whatever you want with it! Awesome!

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61imp
Posted 2023-11-17 6:04 AM (#632744 - in reply to #632618)
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Looking forward to follow along!

I also have a coupe that will only be good for a roof swap once I take all the parts I need. It rusted from dog urine, a lot of the horizontal metal is thin or rusted away.

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22mafeja
Posted 2023-11-18 1:49 AM (#632757 - in reply to #632618)
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That must have been some dog!
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mikes2nd
Posted 2023-11-18 1:53 AM (#632758 - in reply to #632618)
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darn... that is bad.

I told John he saved me a year of my life... its a serious amount of work..

Your car is absolutely gone... look for a donor, my whole floor and trunk,rockers are all gone.

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61imp
Posted 2023-11-19 7:56 AM (#632775 - in reply to #632618)
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I bought the Belvedere for my '57 Savoy hardtop. The Savoy was in a field for years and got picked over pretty good for parts. All the trim, some glass, hood, interior, etc. The exterior is fairly solid, needs floor and rockers though.
The Belvedere was stored in an old rickety building. I think the dogs stayed on the roof mostly and relieved themselves on the hood and trunk. There was still a lot of fur packed into the crevices when I got it, probably what held the moisture.



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frwl
Posted 2023-11-20 1:14 PM (#632801 - in reply to #632618)
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Can you post the data plates of the Belvedere, Savoy and the Turquoise '58 Windsor Dartline on the back ground PLEASE?

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61imp
Posted 2023-11-20 11:14 PM (#632809 - in reply to #632801)
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I'll post them in the general section in a few days if you want, I feel like I've already cluttered up Mike's thread with enough of my pictures. I also have a 57 Custom Royal, 58 Savoy & 57 Plaza, all sedan parts/project cars.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2023-11-21 10:33 AM (#632812 - in reply to #632618)
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clutter away man, i dont mind
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mikes2nd
Posted 2023-11-21 10:38 AM (#632813 - in reply to #632618)
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when your donor is held together by dirt...





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Powerflite
Posted 2023-11-21 4:14 PM (#632817 - in reply to #632618)
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You should be careful about how & where you cut. All of those 2dr specific parts are hard to obtain, and potentially useful to someone. A plasma cutter makes cutting spot welds really easy to remove sections in whole pieces for use somewhere else.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2023-11-21 5:01 PM (#632818 - in reply to #632618)
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I'm going to map the upper support onto the other wheel housings and weld it from inside the wheel housing... So there won't be much left, I will save the passenger quarter panel though. This drivers quarter panel is "swiss cheese" though.

I do need that center brace and it appears to be usable. I will probably not be using the original seats though also. But the car uses that for support I assume so I want to get that same support back int he car.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2023-11-26 2:54 AM (#632868 - in reply to #632618)
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2 door hard top support is out... getting the original one out will be interesting though from the sedan. The 57 sedan did not build the "web" on top of the wheel housing though so it might not be that bad. Its kind of empty up there so I can fit the 2 door hard top on it and weld it in.




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mikes2nd
Posted 2023-11-26 2:56 AM (#632869 - in reply to #632618)
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anyone want a 301 poly that turns over?
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w.weiland
Posted 2023-11-26 10:00 AM (#632872 - in reply to #632618)
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I feel you made the best choice in doing this. With the donor

But what about the critics who will be piping in and saying that’s not a true 2 door hardtop. Or it’s a rebody. Or how could you do this

You should of converted it into a 4 door being everyone else uses them for there 2 doors ??????
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mikes2nd
Posted 2023-12-06 10:46 AM (#632995 - in reply to #632618)
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hey that sedan is solid though...

yep not original... especially not canadian

scrap guy loves rusty metal though, they keep coming back top pick up the weekly scrap... its a form of rust and dirt though... hard time calling it "metal".







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