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Desoto -58 Firesweep VIN decoding
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frwl
Posted 2025-05-09 3:18 AM (#640030 - in reply to #629900)
Subject: RE: Desoto -58 Firesweep VIN decoding


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Found another one;
This is ’58 Firesweep Sportsman 2-Door Hardtop (BDY 412) with Blue Custom Trim 661…
There is NO “5” in the 39 column…

Hmmm…
Custom trim could be included in Custom Group only or offered as a separate option too?




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frwl
Posted 2025-05-09 3:30 AM (#640031 - in reply to #629900)
Subject: RE: Desoto -58 Firesweep VIN decoding


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Here the ’58 Firesweep Trim Codes list for example;

Custom Trim (codes 65x and 66x) noted with asterisk – optional at extra cost on Sedans and Sportsmen;
Convertibles had Custom Trim as standard;
Custom Trim is not offered on the Shopper and Explorer Wagons…




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Icy '58
Posted 2025-05-09 6:09 AM (#640034 - in reply to #629900)
Subject: RE: Desoto -58 Firesweep VIN decoding



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Nice Thank you.

I just discovered an other odd thing about my car. Every '58 Desoto I have come across or looked at pictures have either the oval canister brakebooster, or the oval bellow type. But I have none of them. I have a round canister.

Currently I got a vacuum leak and when I started to search for parts I discovered and reacted to this. I was so sure that mine was oval that I didn't even get out to the car to have a look and ordered a brake booster overhaul kit for the oval jar kind. And when opened the hood i saw that my booster is round. To get the correct -56 to -61 round booster overhaul kit was easy. But to find a manual that handeled the round booster was more difficult. Finally I found the instructions in a -56 Chrysler manual from the my-mopar-page. (But the piston rod yoke is different than mine in that manual.)

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(I had to put the plier to seal off the vacuum to make the car run when pressing the brake when moving it into my garage for repairs.)


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Powerflite
Posted 2025-05-09 2:55 PM (#640039 - in reply to #629900)
Subject: Re: Desoto -58 Firesweep VIN decoding



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That's odd. I don't remember seeing that booster used after 1956. Maybe the imports used them?
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Icy '58
Posted 2025-05-10 2:01 AM (#640047 - in reply to #629900)
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The car came to Sweden from the States in 2006. So it i a U.S. made and sold car.

The mounting to the firewall seems untouched. But one of the bolts keeping the booster together has a wing nut. Looks like some one have been messing around here sometime in the past.
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56D500boy
Posted 2025-05-10 2:17 AM (#640048 - in reply to #640047)
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From the 56 Chrysler Factory Service Manual (looks round to me):



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Icy '58
Posted 2025-05-23 2:20 PM (#640187 - in reply to #629900)
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Since this thread is about how the car was equipped from the factory you all that have helped me deserve a picture of the ”factory wheel setting”

14” whitewall diagonal tyres with the wheel covers.

I have not had theese on the car in 15 years.


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frwl
Posted 2025-05-24 2:08 PM (#640198 - in reply to #629900)
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Wow!!!
Stainless Steel Wheel Covers (order code 511); Optional at extra cost for $18,00 in 1958...



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Lancer Mike
Posted 2025-11-22 12:08 PM (#642071 - in reply to #629955)
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What does it all mean?

 





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frwl
Posted 2025-11-23 8:41 AM (#642077 - in reply to #629900)
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MIDDLE ROW:

293 – order code 293 – Torqueflite Transmission
305 – order code 345 – Heater with Defroster
312 – order code 302 – Power Brakes
422 – order code 322 – White Convertible Top Color
461 – order code 411 – Color Sweep Moulding (411 is just a moulding, 412 – moulding with colour insert)

I think the white color sweep is added later…

487 – order code 461- Solex Tinted Glass – at all windows plus shaded upper portion of the windshield
501 – order code 501 – Undercoating
512 – order code 562 – Sold Car
605 – order code 625 – Delivery Route – by Truck

LOWER ROW:

B – no idea
0106 – Scheduled on January 6, 1958
03711 – consecutive number, probably
BDY 415 – DeSoto (4) Firesweep (1) Convertible (5)
PNT 1AAA – Single Tone Paint Scheme (1), Black all-over (triple A);

This item highlights my guess, that the white color seep was added later…

TRM 776 – Red and Black all-vinyl upholstery

Hope this helps…
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frwl
Posted 2025-11-23 8:47 AM (#642078 - in reply to #629900)
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No rear quarter stone shields (481) or dual antennas (333) on Hamtramck-built 1958 DeSoto cowl tag codes unfortunately...
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frwl
Posted 2025-11-23 8:51 AM (#642079 - in reply to #629900)
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Does the car have left O/S mirror with or / without remote control?
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frwl
Posted 2025-11-23 8:55 AM (#642080 - in reply to #642077)
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frwl - 2025-11-23 8:41 AM

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487 – order code 467 (instead 461 above) - Solex Tinted Glass – at all windows plus shaded upper portion of the windshield

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ckhguru
Posted 2025-11-23 10:13 AM (#642082 - in reply to #642079)
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Neither of the outside mirrors have remote control.
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2025-11-23 12:58 PM (#642085 - in reply to #642082)
Subject: RE: Desoto -58 Firesweep VIN decoding



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Thanks, Igor.  The "white" color sweep is actually the Spring Special trim package.  You can see in the image below, there is black paint under the aluminum trim on the front fender.





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frwl
Posted 2025-11-24 5:16 AM (#642087 - in reply to #629900)
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Hello Michael,

1958 Spring Special DeSotos were painted in:
Code R – Persimmon Red
Code S – Spring Rose
Code W – Heather Blue

There is NO black paint!!!

Besides that, it must have:
411 – Color Sweep Moulding – Yes
415 – Sill Moulding – No (stone shields only)
416 – Deck Lid Bars Moulding – Yes

And the cherry on the cake:
Spring Special Package has order code 314;
I do not see any “4” in the order codes row on the data plate…




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frwl
Posted 2025-11-24 5:23 AM (#642088 - in reply to #642077)
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frwl - 2025-11-23 8:41 AM

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LOWER ROW:

0106 – Scheduled on January 6, 1958



January is not a spring month...
It seems the spring special was started on March 3, 1958...



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frwl
Posted 2025-11-24 5:35 AM (#642089 - in reply to #629900)
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Spring Special should be stamped here, "4" below "38" space
Data plate code 384 - order code 314 - Spring Special Package



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Lancer Mike
Posted 2025-11-24 8:47 PM (#642099 - in reply to #642089)
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Good stuff, Igor!  So this must have been a dealer add-on to spur lot sales (maybe).  That would explain the lack of sill mouldings and the stone shields.

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