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FoundA56Dodge |
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Member Posts: 7 | I found a 1956 Dodge Coronet on a property I bought. I brought it home, and am planning next steps. I am not totally sure where to begin, but I thought posting the VIN and asking for some decoding guidance was as good a place as any. Can anybody help me understand what 35156616 means? Thanks! Edited by FoundA56Dodge 2023-03-04 3:05 PM Attachments ---------------- IMG_1903.jpeg (187KB - 132 downloads) | ||
Powerflite |
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10033 Location: So. Cal | That VIN number tells you it is a '56 Dodge with a V8, built late in the year in Detroit. If you post up a picture of the body tag, there is a lot more information that can be had from that. | ||
56D500boy |
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10291 Location: Lower Mainland BC | Powerflite - 2023-03-04 12:46 PM That VIN number tells you it is a '56 Dodge with a V8, built late in the year in Detroit. If you post up a picture of the body tag, there is a lot more information that can be had from that. Agree. The first Detroit built 56 Dodge V8 cars had VINs starting with 34, 972, 001 and the last one was 35,167,854. So 35156616 is closer to the end of the run than the beginning. To tell you more, we will need to see a photo of the cowl data tag the is on the right upper side of the car's firewall. It might look like this: *OR* being a later build, after about mid-May 1956, more like this: REFERENCE: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=76887&... Edited by 56D500boy 2023-03-04 6:29 PM (56DodgeCoronet2drGoldenLancerDetroitBuildTag_late.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 56DodgeCoronet2drGoldenLancerDetroitBuildTag_late.jpg (134KB - 132 downloads) | ||
FoundA56Dodge |
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Member Posts: 7 | Thanks! That piece had not caught my eye before. Not everything is still legible, but I think it says this:<br /><br /> DODGE DIV BDY PNT TRM 0727 16 040 812 41 531 That first zero in that "040" run I am not 100% on. Edited by FoundA56Dodge 2023-03-04 6:53 PM Attachments ---------------- IMG_1940.jpeg (242KB - 117 downloads) | ||
56D500boy |
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10291 Location: Lower Mainland BC | FoundA56Dodge - 2023-03-04 3:46 PM Thanks! That piece had not caught my eye before. Not everything is still legible, but I think it says this: DODGE DIV BDY PNT TRM 0727 16 040 812 41 531 A little gentle brushing with a brass bristle brush will improve the appearance if you want to try another photo. In the meantime, as suspected, your car is a fairly late build car built on or about July 27, 1956, hence the later style Dodge cowl data tag. 812 = V8, Coronet, 2dr Post Sedan REFERENCE: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=69565&... 41 = Solid (not two or three tone) Iridescent Charcoal (a metallic dark grey) REFERENCE: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=63553&... 531 = Deluxe version of the standard Coronet white vinyl and black-dominant cloth interior REFERENCE: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=65230&... (page 2) Igor (frwl) will be around to remind us what 382 and 597 mean. Edited by 56D500boy 2023-03-05 2:04 AM (56Coronet2drPostJuly27_56_BuildTag.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 56Coronet2drPostJuly27_56_BuildTag.jpg (148KB - 115 downloads) | ||
frwl |
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Expert Posts: 2064 | . The code 597 on the data plate is a Delivery Route – probably – by Dealer’s Own Truck There is no reliable info for code 382 yet… Here the ’56 Dodge optional codes list that ends on “2”: Windshield Tinted Glass Manual Transmission with Overdrive Air Foam Rear Seat Cushion Parking Brake Warning Light Left Outside Rear View Mirror Undercoating Sold Car (need a build card for the confirmation) It list might be incomplete, so outside and inside car pictures would be appreciated… | ||
FoundA56Dodge |
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Member Posts: 7 | Awesome. Thanks, fellas. I am still plotting next steps, but if I give this car a go, I anticipate being back on this forum again. Thanks! | ||
56D500boy |
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10291 Location: Lower Mainland BC | FoundA56Dodge - 2023-03-05 5:49 AM Awesome. Thanks, fellas. I am still plotting next steps, but if I give this car a go, I anticipate being back on this forum again Based on your signature photo, enlarged below, your car was repainted to white and metallic blue after it left the factory (over the iridescent charcoal - which might still show up on the firewall). I presume that the car sank into the ground based on your photo. You will likely have no floors left (rusted away). That can be fixed (at a cost). However, I would be very concerned about the frame. It might be badly rusted to the point of structural failure. Good luck. There are a few of us on here with 56 Dodges that will be able to help you (as in point you in the right direction) Paint code review: You can see the 41 code but not white and metallic blue codes. Edited by 56D500boy 2023-03-05 12:43 PM (56Coronet2drPostJuly27_56_BuildTag_theCar.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 56Coronet2drPostJuly27_56_BuildTag_theCar.jpg (148KB - 129 downloads) | ||
FoundA56Dodge |
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Member Posts: 7 | You are correct! No floors. The profile pic is how I found here. I have since dug her out and brought her home. Attached pics show current status. I have not put her up in the air to get a good look at the underside yet, but the frame may have just held on. So far it passes the "can I jab a screw driver through it" test. Thanks for the help! (And sorry for attaching the images rather than pasting in line. I am still figuring out how to use this forum.) Attachments ---------------- IMG_1897.jpeg (152KB - 140 downloads) IMG_1896.jpeg (203KB - 149 downloads) IMG_1893.jpeg (209KB - 136 downloads) IMG_1892.jpeg (214KB - 138 downloads) IMG_1888.jpeg (202KB - 132 downloads) IMG_1901.jpeg (227KB - 134 downloads) IMG_1898.jpeg (216KB - 130 downloads) | ||
56D500boy |
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10291 Location: Lower Mainland BC | . Arlington (?): Your photo sizes are fine at 800 x 600 (could even be 1024 x 768) but the issue is they are .jpegs from an Apple product. I can open them one by one but that is a bit of a pain. Much easier if you can convert them to .jpg at either 800 x 600 or 1024 x 768 and THEN up load. If you do that, they will automatically load into your post and be visible to everyone. This is what your photos would look like if you did that. (NOTE: From what I can see your engine is a 270 2 bbl poly and should have an engine number by the oil filler tube at the front of the engine, something like D61-123456. Note: The grey on your car's firewall will be the Code 41 Iridescent Charcoal that originally covered the entire car before it was painted white and metallic blue. Edited by 56D500boy 2023-03-05 11:22 PM (56Coronet2drPostEngineBay_SideView.jpg) (56Coronet2drPostEngineBay_RearView.jpg) (56Coronet2drPostEngineBay_Poly2bbl.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 56Coronet2drPostEngineBay_SideView.jpg (147KB - 122 downloads) 56Coronet2drPostEngineBay_RearView.jpg (148KB - 129 downloads) 56Coronet2drPostEngineBay_Poly2bbl.jpg (147KB - 123 downloads) | ||
Powerflite |
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10033 Location: So. Cal | Looks like a great project if you are handy with a welder. | ||
56D500boy |
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10291 Location: Lower Mainland BC | . Here is one source of floor panels and inner and outer rockers that you might (LOL) need. (This is not a 55-56-57 Chevy where you can buy a complete one piece floor pan. This is an older Mopar. But it will be worth it, in the end): https://www.c2cfabrication.com/collections/dodge-parts/make_dodge+mo... Some of my C2C experience (but with non-rusty floors) http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=66997&... http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=65216&... Good luck | ||
dels56 |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 367 | My experience with C2C, the floor pan material is lighter (19 gauge) than the O.E. 18 ga. The floor pans and access cover required considerable rework to make them fit my 56 Dodge 2door hardtop. The dimples for the body mount bolts were not as deep as the O.E. and required extra work. Once I finally had them installed, every square inch of new material was prepped with POR15 Metal Prep and then painted with POR15 Black. After I cleaned and prepped the balance of the floor I used Noico 80 mil sound deadener from the top of the firewall right through the trunk. The new carpet has a light underlay over top of the Noico. I couldn’t tell you if it is quieter than it was previously. That’s all I know. Del S | ||
FoundA56Dodge |
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Member Posts: 7 | Thanks for all the tips. The engine stamp appears to read D63I-87124. I have found quite a bit a iridescent charcoal as I have peeled back some layers. I also found what I suspect to the original upholstery. I have the car up on my lift and it can just sit there for a bit while I plot next steps. There is a good chance that I may part ways with it sooner rather than later. If I do decide to pull the cord, let me know if anybody out there knows somebody in search of a parts car (or whatever this car might be useful for). (IMG_1903.jpg) (IMG_2017.jpg) (IMG_2023.jpg) (IMG_2082.jpg) (IMG_2087.jpg) Attachments ---------------- IMG_1903.jpg (78KB - 110 downloads) IMG_2017.jpg (99KB - 115 downloads) IMG_2023.jpg (118KB - 131 downloads) IMG_2056.JPEG (62KB - 114 downloads) IMG_2082.jpg (93KB - 119 downloads) IMG_2087.jpg (86KB - 123 downloads) | ||
56D500boy |
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Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 10291 Location: Lower Mainland BC | . Based on that engine number, it is a 270 2bbl poly, not the greatest. Based on this photo, I think you are done or need to look for another 56 Dodge with better frame and floor pans. That cross-member rot looks fatal to me. Some folks have used 1991-96 Dodge Dakota truck chassis to eliminate the frame and engine problems. (You will still have to deal with the floor pan). Edited by 56D500boy 2023-03-20 5:30 PM | ||
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