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56D500boy
Posted 2020-11-05 10:55 AM (#605320)
Subject: Wiper Pivots - How to disassemble before re-Plating?



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Found these photos on eBay and it got me thinking about getting my 56 Dodge wiper pivots re-plated. I can see now that getting them off the car isn't (shouldn't be) a big deal. But then the question is how much can I disassemble? Looks like the actuator arm should press out but what about the bushing?

I'm sure somebody has done this right?





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wizard
Posted 2020-11-05 11:13 AM (#605322 - in reply to #605320)
Subject: Re: Wiper Pivots - How to disassemble before re-Plating?



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56D500boy
Posted 2020-11-05 12:44 PM (#605323 - in reply to #605322)
Subject: Re: Wiper Pivots - How to disassemble before re-Plating?



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Thanks Sven. I'm not capable of doing that. Anybody does this as a business?

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GaryS
Posted 2020-11-05 5:06 PM (#605326 - in reply to #605320)
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Location: Ponder, TX		The pivot shafts on my '56 Plymouth were retained with C-clips'





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GaryS
Posted 2020-11-05 5:12 PM (#605327 - in reply to #605320)
Subject: Re: Wiper Pivots - How to disassemble before re-Plating?



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Location: Ponder, TX		I ordered and installed new oiled bronze bushings online and replaced the C-clips without any difficulty. Lots of rust on the shaft that hid the slot, but it is there.
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56D500boy
Posted 2020-11-05 6:14 PM (#605329 - in reply to #605327)
Subject: Re: Wiper Pivots - How to disassemble before re-Plating?



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GaryS - 2020-11-05 2:12 PM
I ordered and installed new oiled bronze bushings online and replaced the C-clips without any difficulty. Lots of rust on the shaft that hid the slot, but it is there.


Now we're talking there Gary. Do you happen to recall where you got the bushings? There are no separate bushing PNs in the Mopar catalog. Just the complete pivot assembly (at least I think so) (??)

Maybe here?:

https://bearing-solutions.isostatic.com/printitems/sleeve-bearings/m...



I found your before and after photos and reference to your use of Muggy Weld to fill in the pits. Did you drill the pits out first or just sand them?

Before (not so nice):



After (very nice):





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GaryS
Posted 2020-11-05 9:32 PM (#605333 - in reply to #605320)
Subject: Re: Wiper Pivots - How to disassemble before re-Plating?



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Location: Ponder, TX		I ordered the oiled bronze bushings online, but don't recall the source. I measured the shafts and castings and ordered by size. I think I ordered two longer parts and cut them in two, but it was some time ago and my memory is fading.

I drilled out the pits with a Dremel and small bur before sanding and filling with Muggyweld. Yours look much better than mine to start, so you should be able to clean them up much faster.

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wizard
Posted 2020-11-06 4:48 AM (#605337 - in reply to #605326)
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GaryS - 2020-11-05 11:06 PM

The pivot shafts on my '56 Plymouth were retained with C-clips'



This is the modification I have done with several wiper pivots. I really think that someone has done this modification earlier on those pivots.
Normally, they are not serviceable since the sleeve is shrunk on the shaft groove.

I didn't have to change any bushings though - the problem was dirt and rust on the shafts. A good cleaning and some fine emery cloth, new grease and they are normally good for many years of service.

If you needd spacers, a stainless tube can be cut and then grinded to correct lenght by putting the tube in the mandrel of a drill machine and run it against a file and/or emery cloth.
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Powerflite
Posted 2020-11-06 10:43 AM (#605339 - in reply to #605320)
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Location: So. California		I just checked the pivots on all 5 of my '56 Plymouths and they all have the non-serviceable collar on them. The pivot from the Fury that I parted out didn't move very easily, but it freed up quite well with just a little lubrication on the ends.
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GaryS
Posted 2020-11-06 11:31 AM (#605345 - in reply to #605320)
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Location: Ponder, TX		Since I know none of the history of my Plymouth, I have no idea if any modifications were made by previous owners, but I know that the way it's now assembled, I don't have to worry about that problem in my lifetime!
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57chizler
Posted 2020-11-06 11:43 AM (#605347 - in reply to #605320)
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Location: NorCal		If I was doing it, I would grind off the peened area (red arrow), remove the lever and remove the shaft from the top side. Then drill and tap the end of the shaft and use a screw (with Loctite) to reinstall the lever.



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Powerflite
Posted 2020-11-06 11:55 AM (#605348 - in reply to #605320)
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Location: So. California		I agree, that seems like a sensible plan. Much easier than dealing with that collar so close to the pot metal.
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wizard
Posted 2020-11-06 2:05 PM (#605355 - in reply to #605320)
Subject: Re: Wiper Pivots - How to disassemble before re-Plating?



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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island		Yes, it's easier, but that is the fulcrum point, so any lash will result in that the shaft will eat up more material until it's loose or broken.
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Powerflite
Posted 2020-11-06 2:26 PM (#605356 - in reply to #605320)
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Location: So. California		That could be fixed by welding it back together. That's what I did to fix my door latch. As long as you aren't likely to need to take it apart too often, that should be a good solution. Another less final solution is to screw it together with some epoxy to prevent any small movements. Burn the epoxy to take it back apart.

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GaryS
Posted 2020-11-06 3:35 PM (#605361 - in reply to #605320)
Subject: Re: Wiper Pivots - How to disassemble before re-Plating?



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Location: Ponder, TX		I can't see it clearly in the photo, but maybe the collar is meant to be a type of water seal.

FWIW, I recall that I first just cleaned and lubricated, but decided that the shafts had what I thought was too much slop in the bushing and since the bezel pitting was really bad, they had to be repaired. Perhaps my car spent its life in Seattle where it rains 300 days a year!
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wizard
Posted 2020-11-06 4:38 PM (#605367 - in reply to #605320)
Subject: Re: Wiper Pivots - How to disassemble before re-Plating?



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56D500boy
Posted 2020-11-06 9:00 PM (#605376 - in reply to #605329)
Subject: Re: Wiper Pivots - How to disassemble before re-Plating?



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Just for clarification, my pivots are still on my car. I was just thinking ahead and mentally preparing for what will have to be done to get these plated. So I am appreciating all the comments and options that have been presented in this thread.

The bonus will be when I take them off I can repaint the area around them much better than I have so far.



Edited by 56D500boy 2020-11-06 9:03 PM




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56D500boy
Posted 2020-11-21 8:11 PM (#605906 - in reply to #605376)
Subject: Re: Wiper Pivots - How to disassemble before re-Plating?



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I was under the dash of my 56 Dodge this morning looking at something else and while I was there, I took some photos of the underside of the wiper pivot supports. I was a bit shocked to see bolts, not studs and nuts. I imagine that re-installation without a helper up top might be a challenge.

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wizard
Posted 2020-11-22 2:25 AM (#605914 - in reply to #605320)
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island		Just install two studs and put the pivot in Place , remove One stud and install One Bolt ....
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