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miquelonbrad
Posted 2015-11-22 9:45 PM (#495905)
Subject: New shop floor poured



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Well, since this region hasn't had any posts for a long while, and has become boring, I'm gonna spice it up, and post pictures of my shop floor being poured, in October. And it is totally relevant to FL cars, since my '57 DeSoto Ambulance is parked on the concrete.



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wizard
Posted 2015-11-23 1:52 AM (#495915 - in reply to #495905)
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Wow, that's some serious space! Under the rebars, there's something that looks like bubble plastic - is that some form of ground isolation? Is the red "wire" a form of floor heating?

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60 dart
Posted 2015-11-23 4:49 AM (#495930 - in reply to #495905)
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nice barn . i always hated being the dummy on the end of the pumper hose 4 times heavier than i was----------------------------------------------later
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miquelonbrad
Posted 2015-11-23 9:41 AM (#495940 - in reply to #495905)
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Yes, the white you see is styrofoam, an inch and a half thick, with special locking "bumps" that the 1/2" pex floor tubing clicks in to. Then the rebar sits on top of the bumps. The concrete is heated by hot water (glycol) pumped through the tubing. If you don't insulate under the concrete, the heat migrates into the ground.
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wizard
Posted 2015-11-23 10:02 AM (#495942 - in reply to #495905)
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That will give you a very nice heating - just be careful if you bolt in a car lift (I guess that you made a tube drawing so you know where to drill.

You'll have a very nice place for your garage/mancave, congrats!
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Powerflite
Posted 2015-11-23 12:36 PM (#495958 - in reply to #495942)
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Wow, very nice. You'll have plenty of space to work there. I like picture No. 4. Typical construction workers; 1 working while 2 stand and stare. The best garage heating I had while living in a colder climate was an efficient designed wood burning stove in the middle of the room. That would warm it up very quickly and cost very little.
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mstrug
Posted 2015-11-23 3:09 PM (#495973 - in reply to #495930)
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60 dart - 2015-11-23 3:49 AM

nice barn . i always hated being the dummy on the end of the pumper hose 4 times heavier than i was----------------------------------------------later


I agree; ever shotcrete over head? I have, making a monolithic concrete dome home in the summer of '99. That ho's gets heavy! marc.
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60 dart
Posted 2015-11-23 5:00 PM (#495980 - in reply to #495905)
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on job sites handlin the pumper hose wasn't my chore considering i was the guy that built and checked the forms during a pour and had to be able to move around checking
the forms but once in a while i had to fill in for a bit . most of our slab pours were bridge decks . one pour that stands out was one for a 110,000lb. vessel for a coal test
plant , 2300 yards non stop . that was one long pour -------------------------------------------later
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Resurrector
Posted 2015-11-24 8:41 PM (#496109 - in reply to #495980)
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Wow, nice shop Brad! What size is it? Love the mezzanine too, looks swell and lots of storage. Underfloor heat is absolutely wonderful, that's how our home is heated, slab on grade. And I see you put in a floor drain too?
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miquelonbrad
Posted 2015-11-24 8:48 PM (#496111 - in reply to #495905)
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Hi Jeff,

The shop is 48' x 80', with a 16' ceiling. Yes, I put in floor drain(s) and a bathroom rough-in. Also, the back area is now made into a room, to be used as a wood shop. I needed a heated area for my well tank, since the rest isn't finished yet. Plus room for the bathroom... so it morphed into a larger area.

Yes, my house and garage are in-floor heated, and since I am a plumber who builds boiler systems...I wouldn't heat it any other way!
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ttotired
Posted 2015-11-25 3:23 AM (#496134 - in reply to #495905)
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Brad, I envy you

To build a garage that big here would cost at least 50K (closer to 100K) without the heating

Brilliant!!!!!!!

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finsruskw
Posted 2015-11-25 9:33 AM (#496151 - in reply to #496134)
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There is only ONE thing WRONG with that floor......











It's NOT in my shop!!!!
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miquelonbrad
Posted 2015-11-25 9:33 AM (#496152 - in reply to #495905)
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Well, the price isn't far off here...except in Canuck bucks. I figure that I have 90K into it so far. The entire concrete job was over 30K...
But it's money from an inheritance, so I figure it's well spent. I could put the $$ in the bank, but at today's interest rates, the bank fees would be more!
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soiouz
Posted 2015-11-25 3:49 PM (#496180 - in reply to #495905)
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That is one amazing shop, there, Brad! Just beautiful!
I envy the space!! I can barely walk around my car when it's in my garage!... of course, I live right in the city, though.
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60 dart
Posted 2015-11-25 5:00 PM (#496185 - in reply to #495905)
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but you can always walk into your shop in ah of what you have built for yourself . it looks very much as well spent . any plans for insulating any or all -----------------------------------later
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lebaron413
Posted 2015-11-27 12:02 AM (#496269 - in reply to #496111)
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Hi Brad; man thats some kick ass shop your building! Go big or go home! I am just planning a 28'x30' for my place. I also am going with in floor heating, as my Home is heated with a Boiler. Any tips you want to pass along would be greatly appreciated. I would like to know more in depth how you ran the heat loop from your home and more about using glycol. Thanks, John
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miquelonbrad
Posted 2015-11-27 9:35 AM (#496277 - in reply to #496185)
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60 dart - 2015-11-25 3:00 PM

but you can always walk into your shop in ah of what you have built for yourself . it looks very much as well spent . any plans for insulating any or all -----------------------------------later


I will insulate it, but it first has to be wired. And I need to install a secondary gas line from my garage, which is about 500 ft away. And since winter has hit here, none of that will happen this year. But I have a nice heated garage that I do all my restoration work in, so no worries.

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miquelonbrad
Posted 2015-11-27 9:45 AM (#496280 - in reply to #496269)
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HI John,

The shop will have it's own boiler, as my house is too far from the shop to share systems. Well, you could run a line to share, but the line loss would be too great to make it economical.

Ok, use Propylene Glycol, and don't mix it too thick. You can mix it to flow down to -64c (-83F) but it's thick as molasses, and it takes too much energy to pump and heat it. I mix it to flow down to -25c (-13F), and at that ratio, it will gel lower than -25, but it won't freeze solid until about -40c (-40F). And I figure, if it gets that cold inside my buildings, there must be no electricity or gas, and the apocalypse is upon us!
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ttotired
Posted 2015-11-27 4:30 PM (#496297 - in reply to #495905)
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Or the mother inlaw walked in





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miquelonbrad
Posted 2015-11-28 4:41 PM (#496382 - in reply to #495905)
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But I like my Mother-in-law...she makes cake and fudge for me.
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miquelonbrad
Posted 2016-03-14 1:03 AM (#506737 - in reply to #495905)
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Well, here are some pics, of what's in the shop now...a VERY eclectic mix of vehicles! I am storing several cars for friends and family for the winter, along with mine, and here's a list:
-1967 VW bus
-1957DeSoto CD ambulance
-1964 Studebaker
-1983 Mercedes
-1958 Cadillac
-1975 Ford 1 ton grain truck
-2008 Dodge 1 ton
-1999 BMW






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Powerflite
Posted 2016-03-14 1:16 AM (#506740 - in reply to #506737)
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I love that ambulance. Is that one yours?

Edit: I just saw your list of cars in your signature. What are your plans for it? That is going to be really neat. I always thought that the aluminum door frames looked odd on a sedan. They just stick out in a funny way. I think I would paint them body color to neutralize them more.

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miquelonbrad
Posted 2016-03-14 8:15 AM (#506767 - in reply to #495905)
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Hi Powerflite,

Well, I plan on restoring it, as close to "original" as I can. By original, I mean back to as close as it came out of the conversion shop. But some of the details will have to be made up, as there aren't known pictures of this car, nor can I definatly say 100% who even did the conversion.

The car was "white" after the conversion, so the frames probably didn't stick out too much...
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soiouz
Posted 2016-03-23 8:20 AM (#507673 - in reply to #495905)
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What a beautiful place you got there, Brad!... and really nice cars!
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RUSTORICHES
Posted 2016-03-25 7:25 AM (#507886 - in reply to #495905)
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Brad, your shop is coming along great. I'll have to make a point of seeing it sometime this summer on of my many 'High Speed Car Chases"/ road trips.I'll call you for directions again I'm sure you told me but that's like 10 mins. ago I don't remember LOL
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miquelonbrad
Posted 2016-03-26 1:04 AM (#507951 - in reply to #495905)
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Just drive down the highway...east...for maybe 20 or 25 miles, then south, till you see the cow standing by the tree...
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