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NicksGarage
Posted 2021-12-08 3:52 PM (#617472 - in reply to #454447)
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If you had the IBM card you could see the region and if it has any special order codes. More than likely it wasn't sold at a dealer but an executive car. A friend has a 300F that was a promotional car so it has odd codes for region and dealer.

Since it's listed in Darryl's book, does that mean it's a ram car?

I was just comparing the floor in the '61 Belvedere and the 1960 Chrysler and noticed it doesn't have the mounting holes for the power seats.
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34 Airflow
Posted 2022-07-09 7:45 AM (#622739 - in reply to #454447)
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I've just got a copy of my IBM card for the 57 New Yorker- dealer code is 8663 The selling dealer was Brown Motor Co., located in Hot Springs, AR. Anyone got information on them?
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Furyous J
Posted 2022-09-29 8:43 PM (#624589 - in reply to #622739)
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Any idea why my car’s dealer code has someone’s name and location listed rather than a dealership name? I’ve been baffled by this for years. Would this be some sort of private sale direct from factory or an executive car perhaps?



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RDP
Posted 2022-10-08 9:01 AM (#624764 - in reply to #624589)
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Furyous J - 2022-09-30 2:43 AM

Any idea why my car’s dealer code has someone’s name and location listed rather than a dealership name? I’ve been baffled by this for years. Would this be some sort of private sale direct from factory or an executive car perhaps?



Jeff, you are sure that's not the dealership name?
Many dealerships have the owner's name in their names.
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Powerflite
Posted 2022-10-08 2:05 PM (#624772 - in reply to #454447)
Subject: Re: Dealer codes



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Dealer no. 5497, Walker-Darden Motors



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Ev's62Chrysler
Posted 2022-10-09 12:04 AM (#624789 - in reply to #624589)
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Furyous J - 2022-09-29 8:43 PM

Any idea why my car’s dealer code has someone’s name and location listed rather than a dealership name? I’ve been baffled by this for years. Would this be some sort of private sale direct from factory or an executive car perhaps?


Found this from Tyler, TX newspaper. Discrepancy with middle initial. Also a bit blurry, an ad in Jacksonville College Guiding Light yearbook.




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Furyous J
Posted 2022-10-09 9:48 PM (#624815 - in reply to #624789)
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Ev's62Chrysler - 2022-10-08 9:04 PM

Furyous J - 2022-09-29 8:43 PM

Any idea why my car’s dealer code has someone’s name and location listed rather than a dealership name? I’ve been baffled by this for years. Would this be some sort of private sale direct from factory or an executive car perhaps?


Found this from Tyler, TX newspaper. Discrepancy with middle initial. Also a bit blurry, an ad in Jacksonville College Guiding Light yearbook.


Wow! Thanks for that In all of my google searches over the years I've never been able to find any record of a Chrysler-Plymouth dealer in Jacksonville, TX under that name. This has to be it. Perhaps the middle initial is a typo on my copy of the build documentation. Now if only I could find an address for this dealer I could google street view to see if there's any evidence of it left.
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56D500boy
Posted 2022-11-15 11:42 AM (#625612 - in reply to #624815)
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Adding one more (courtesy of Hunter D. and his 56 D500 IBM card and his FCA letter):

52404 Region 23 Cunningham & Rickey Motors, Klamath Falls, Oregon.

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56custom royal
Posted 2022-11-27 6:01 PM (#625899 - in reply to #454447)
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Hello all. New to this so hopefully this works.

I’m I’m following correctly I have a 1956 dodge custom royal
315 as the engine is stamped D63-3 and so on

It should have been sapphire white and gold (paint prior to me purchasing)

Trying to figure out the carburetor.
It’s stamped ww and thats it….

Any other information would be helpful. Spread some of your knowledge





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Powerflite
Posted 2022-11-27 9:31 PM (#625907 - in reply to #454447)
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The WW carburetor is a Stromberg 2bbl. It looks like Dave started a thread on your car's options in the member's ride section here:

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=78025


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56D500boy
Posted 2023-01-19 1:12 PM (#627092 - in reply to #625612)
Subject: Frank E. Beckett, Fresno CA



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Frank E. Beckett Co. 701 Van Ness Ave, Fresno CA

"Frank E. Beckett (1894-1963) was a prominent business owner inFresno, the San Joaquin Valley, and the surrounding Central Valley counties,
in which he operated Dodge and Plymouth dealerships. He was a member of the Fresno County Planning Commission and owned interest in the California Inland
Broadcasting Co. Beckett’s automotive businesses dominated the intersection of Van Ness and Mono streets."

"As early as 1932, he (Frank E. Beckett) owned a Dodge dealership at 700 Van Ness Avenue and later expanded to a second
dealership at 701 Van Ness Avenue that operated until 1960. Beckett’s truck department appears to have remained at 650 Fulton
Street until 1962. By 1964, the property was occupied by the Crockett Equipment Company, which leased and sold equipment and
vehicles. In 1970, the company came to be known as Sandy Crocket Dodge auto dealer. W.A. “Sandy” Crocket had purchased
Fresno’s original Crocket De Soto-Plymouth dealership in 1938 and acquired the Dodge car and truck dealership (probably from
Frank E. Beckett) in 1963. In 1967, the Crocket’s Dodge dealership was named one of three Dodge sales leaders in Northern
California. In 1970, the Sandy Crocket Dodge dealership was purchased by Norman K. Harris and renamed Fresno Dodge Inc."

701 Van Ness Avenue was constructed circa 1946. The original building permit was not located; however, the property is known to
have been the location of a gas station until at least 1940, possibly 1944. The current building is shown on the 1948 Sanborn map.
Frank E. Beckett Co. was the first occupant of the building. As early as 1932, he
owned a Dodge dealership at 700 Van Ness Avenue, directly across the street from the subject property. He also owned a truck
sales and service facility nearby, at 640 Fulton Street. The gas station that had been located on the subject property since 1928,
and was originally owned by P. J. Hicks, and later by Beckett after 1937. It is assumed that Beckett improved his interests by
demolishing the gas station and constructing the current building in the mid-1940s. It was then used as an auto sales and service
facility, with a large showroom across the front, until 1960."

REFERENCE: https://www.fresno.gov/darm/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/11/Hist...


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Finsinthemirror
Posted 2023-01-19 1:26 PM (#627093 - in reply to #627092)
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One of my cars was sold new at Crockett Bros.. it still has both dealer license plate frames on it. It's amazing they didn't get tossed when the license plates were changed in '63.
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56D500boy
Posted 2023-05-27 2:46 PM (#629848 - in reply to #627092)
Subject: RE: Frank E. Beckett, Fresno CA



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Why is it Spitzer Motors advertised itself as the "World's Largest Dodge Dealer" but yet we don't have any listings for them (several locations)?

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=54385&...





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NicksGarage
Posted 2024-02-19 11:35 PM (#633810 - in reply to #454447)
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Just got the build record for my 1960 Imperial custom. It was ordered from Geil Motor Co. in Oceanside, CA. Dealer number 52999. Haven't found a great deal of info on the dealership but Gene Geil bought the local Dodge-Plymouth dealership in 1946. Found ads looking for mechanics as late as 1969. He died in 1992. The building at 802 S Coast Hwy (originally 802 Hill Street) is still there as a Uhaul rental center, which I've been to in the past, but is slated to be torn down for a new project.
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56D500boy
Posted 2024-03-03 12:41 PM (#634023 - in reply to #629848)
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56D500boy - 2023-05-27 11:46 AM
Why is it Spitzer Motors advertised itself as the "World's Largest Dodge Dealer" but yet we don't have any listings for them (several locations)?


Spitzer Motors Dodge was at 3112 Broadview Road, Cleveland Ohio back in 1956.

Spitzer is still going very strong and has been in the automobile sales business since 1904.

Their current Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram Dealership in Cleveland is at

Spitzer CDJR Cleveland
13001 Brookpark Rd, Brook Park, OH 44142, United States

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56D500boy
Posted 2024-03-04 6:10 PM (#634045 - in reply to #634023)
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56D500boy - 2024-03-03 9:41 AM
Spitzer Motors Dodge was at 3112 Broadview Road, Cleveland Ohio back in 1956.
Spitzer is still going very strong and has been in the automobile sales business since 1904.
Their current Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram Dealership in Cleveland is at
Spitzer CDJR Cleveland
13001 Brookpark Rd, Brook Park, OH 44142, United States


Found these:



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wheelcover
Posted 2024-03-10 7:03 PM (#634158 - in reply to #454529)
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Looking for information on dealer # 36285 in Escanaba, MI. Called Ludington Motors or Ludington Motor Co. My 58 Firedome was sold new there. Would be nice to get an address or a picture of the dealership. Sparse information from Stellantis.
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56D500boy
Posted 2024-03-10 8:00 PM (#634160 - in reply to #634158)
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Nelson Ludington was a city founder for Escanaba so who knows how many family members had their fingers in which pies. Ludington Motors would only be one of them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Ludington

Cruise down Ludington Street in Google street maps and you might find a suitable building. I just did and there are several potential candidate sites.
Maybe contact the Escanaba Chamber of Commerce?

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.7457138,-87.0754781,3a,75y,59.38h,95...

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56D500boy
Posted 2024-03-14 9:31 PM (#634210 - in reply to #634023)
Subject: Spitzer Motors



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56D500boy - 2024-03-03 9:41 AM
Spitzer Motors Dodge was at 3112 Broadview Road, Cleveland Ohio back in 1956.


Better image of the 56 Dodge brochure with Spitzer's address.





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mikes2nd
Posted 2024-03-14 11:08 PM (#634214 - in reply to #454447)
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Spitzer is big, in the trunk of Scott from cold war motors donor 60 dodge had a Spitzer emblem in it... from Akron to Alberta canada is a long trip
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56D500boy
Posted 2024-03-16 2:27 AM (#634229 - in reply to #634214)
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mikes2nd - 2024-03-14 8:08 PM
Spitzer is big, in the trunk of Scott from cold war motors donor 60 dodge had a Spitzer emblem in it... from Akron to Alberta canada is a long trip


I contacted Spitzer today and emailed Alison Spitzer (the one in the video linked above) and asked about any 56 Dodge info that they might still have and
whether she might know what the dealer code was back in the day. I attached copies of the 56 Dodge Spitzer info posted above.

Who knows whether or not she will respond or not.

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RDP
Posted 2024-03-16 1:08 PM (#634237 - in reply to #634229)
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56D500boy - 2024-03-16 8:27 AM

mikes2nd - 2024-03-14 8:08 PM
Spitzer is big, in the trunk of Scott from cold war motors donor 60 dodge had a Spitzer emblem in it... from Akron to Alberta canada is a long trip


I contacted Spitzer today and emailed Alison Spitzer (the one in the video linked above) and asked about any 56 Dodge info that they might still have and
whether she might know what the dealer code was back in the day. I attached copies of the 56 Dodge Spitzer info posted above.

Who knows whether or not she will respond or not.

:)




Dave, my "US dealership codes" table has eight dealer numbers for Spitzer. In my "US all FL dealer" table you will find ten locations for Spitzer.
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StillOutThere
Posted 2024-03-16 1:17 PM (#634238 - in reply to #454447)
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Location: Under the X in Texas
Interested in any information:

Max Watson Motors
Gaffney, South Carolina
Dealer Code #5001

Sellers of my 1955 Imperial Newport

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NicksGarage
Posted 2024-03-16 1:52 PM (#634244 - in reply to #634238)
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StillOutThere - 2024-03-16 10:17 AM

Interested in any information:

Max Watson Motors
Gaffney, South Carolina
Dealer Code #5001

Sellers of my 1955 Imperial Newport



They opened in late 1954 in the location of a former Dodge-Plymouth dealer. Closed by 1959.




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Posted 2024-03-16 2:09 PM (#634246 - in reply to #454447)
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GREAT, Thanks Nick! Now I have an address. On to Google Maps.......
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Posted 2024-03-16 2:30 PM (#634248 - in reply to #454447)
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56D500boy
Posted 2024-03-16 2:50 PM (#634251 - in reply to #634237)
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RDP - 2024-03-16 10:08 AM
Dave, my "US dealership codes" table has eight dealer numbers for Spitzer. In my "US all FL dealer" table you will find ten locations for Spitzer.


Thanks Robert. I am only interested to find out whether Spitzer Motors on 3112 Broadview Road, back in the day was
Dealer No. 55816 (from your spreadsheet).

Maybe Ms. Spitzer will be able to confirm that.

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NicksGarage
Posted 2024-03-16 7:41 PM (#634254 - in reply to #634158)
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Looking for information on dealer # 36285 in Escanaba, MI. Called Ludington Motors or Ludington Motor Co. My 58 Firedome was sold new there. Would be nice to get an address or a picture of the dealership. Sparse information from Stellantis.


There was a Ludington Motors at 1636 Ludington Street in Escanaba, Michigan. In 1957-1959 at least it was a Pontiac-GMC dealer. Added Buick in 1960. Here's an article from March of 1960 announcing the addition of Buick, mentions that they were a Pontiac dealer for 17 years. Don't see any connection to Dodge. Looks like the Dodge dealer there was Riverside Auto Sales at 2511 Ludington St. Looks like they were around until 1977 at least.




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Posted 2024-04-14 10:55 PM (#634701 - in reply to #454447)
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heres one to add to the list, if its not already added.

dealer number 55021
Central Motors Inc.
Hagerstown maryland

my 1956 dodge coronet parts car was sold here. anybody have any info?
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56D500boy
Posted 2024-04-15 2:50 AM (#634704 - in reply to #634701)
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dealer number 55021
Central Motors Inc.
Hagerstown maryland
my 1956 dodge coronet parts car was sold here.
Anybody have any info?


Maybe:

http://www.usa.com/frs/central-motors-dodge-inc.html

That corner is now a CVS (in a new building)



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