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61ply2drwgn
Posted 2013-12-21 2:48 PM (#417700)
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Been collecting for a while, trying to round up some parts for my 61 wagon, thought I'd share some photos I have enjoy

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rockerarm
Posted 2013-12-21 2:55 PM (#417702 - in reply to #417700)
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61ply2drwgn - 2013-12-21 2:48 PM Been collecting for a while, trying to round up some parts for my 61 wagon, thought I'd share some photos I have enjoy

Photos ......? Am I missing something .....?

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61ply2drwgn
Posted 2013-12-21 2:59 PM (#417703 - in reply to #417702)
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Sorry was in the middle of converting them so I could upload to the website
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oldwood
Posted 2013-12-21 3:44 PM (#417710 - in reply to #417700)
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'61's have a great following here. Thanks for the pics.
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Posted 2013-12-21 4:26 PM (#417715 - in reply to #417700)
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I have never seen a 2 door'61 Plymouth wagon? Looks to be a Belvedere?

What engine, etc.?

Thanks for the pics
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-12-22 12:17 AM (#417763 - in reply to #417703)
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What was the original color ... clearly NOT red !
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FIN ME
Posted 2013-12-22 10:06 AM (#417809 - in reply to #417700)
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Wow, 61ply2drwgn, you don't see one of those every day!

Welcome to you and your great wagon!

Please keep the photos coming.



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fenix
Posted 2013-12-22 10:25 AM (#417817 - in reply to #417809)
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Don't know who would buy a 61 2 door wagon new, maybe a traveling salesman?, I'm mean "traveling sales person"
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-12-22 1:36 PM (#417840 - in reply to #417817)
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Back when life was good .... ..... people used to call these things "Handyman wagons"
We might assume they were typically owned by guys hauling light, but bulky loads, but still
wanted a regular car, as opposed to a truck or sedan delivery ?

Felix Fixxit, the local carpenter/handyman needs to move the occassional armload of 2x4's
to fix Mrs. Walker's fence ? Or Bob the Plumber needs to get his pipe and fittings across town
to the job ? But both still have to take the Mrs. to church on Sunday and she has no interest
riding to church in a 3/4 ton work truck !
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fenix
Posted 2013-12-22 2:15 PM (#417843 - in reply to #417700)
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Makes sense, but not really a family car unless the kids were in Cirque du Soleil.

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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-12-22 4:02 PM (#417861 - in reply to #417843)
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These never sold in large numbers. I always thought of them as little more than a "compromise"
car ... a commercial sedan delivery with the civility of windows for personal use or more of a
"normal" appearance.

Back then people were vastly more practical, and single-car families/homes were not un-typical.
If the "home" could only afford a single car and the bread-earner needed a practical hauler, but
wanted it scaled back to a more "normal" appearance for other life needs/ interests, the windowed
version of a sedan delivery might be just the ticket.

Obviously, few had that need, or they would have sold more of them. But they did fill a niche while
that niche existed. Anymore, we usually have multiple cars for different applications. We ain't in
Kansas anymore there, Toto !


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fenix
Posted 2013-12-22 7:33 PM (#417899 - in reply to #417861)
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I need something like that, the two furry weiner babies and I have become Siamese triplets.
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Mopar1
Posted 2013-12-22 10:00 PM (#417915 - in reply to #417809)
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FIN ME - 2013-12-22 9:06 AM


Wow, 61ply2drwgn, you don't see one of those every day!)

Actually he does!
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SavoyPlaza
Posted 2013-12-23 6:27 AM (#417943 - in reply to #417700)
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Very cool, Derek. Thanks for the photos! She's in really nice shape, your father had good taste!

It looks like the military green is showing through the red. My green wagon was that same olive drab originally.
Does yours have a middle (back) seat? Mine came with only a front seat, the workings for the back seat are present, just no
cushions. I was told that mine was one of 13 the USAF ordered with only a front seat. Surely yours isn't one from that order?

Thanks for the photos, and please post some more with any updates!
Also, pm me your address so I can send you that steering column part.

Below is a photo of my green '61 2-door wagon, with my '60.
Pete



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Diesel45
Posted 2013-12-23 8:39 AM (#417949 - in reply to #417700)
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Has Adriana seen these yet?

Love the Plain Jane '60 wagon Pete, nice to see it sporting dog dishes..
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Kenny J.
Posted 2013-12-23 9:41 AM (#417957 - in reply to #417943)
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SavoyPlaza - 2013-12-23 3:27 AM

Below is a photo of my green '61 2-door wagon, with my '60.
Pete


I had been thinking that green would be a cool color for my '59 two door wagon, which was originally a black police vehicle.

I won't be touching it until after retirement (if I live that long), but that '61 is awesome. People forget how popular Seafoam, Mint, etc. green was between 1955-'61. Not just Mopar, but GM and Ford, too. AMC seemed to push brighter colors for some reason and I cannot recall too many green Ramblers from that era, though a neighbor had a two tone green '59 or '60 wagon.

K.
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FIN ME
Posted 2013-12-23 3:22 PM (#418038 - in reply to #417915)
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Mopar1 - 2013-12-22 10:00 PM

FIN ME - 2013-12-22 9:06 AM


Wow, 61ply2drwgn, you don't see one of those every day!)

Actually he does! :)


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BTW - SavoyPlaza - great looking wagon!





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61ply2drwgn
Posted 2013-12-23 9:39 PM (#418102 - in reply to #417700)
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Yes it was originally olive drab green and was ordered new for the military. It still has the tag on the firewall. It only had the front seat and had the alum \6 with a three speed on the tree. It is very rust free. The carpet was pulled years ago, so the floor pans are rock solid. It has a poor accident repair to one quarter and a little rust in one front fender. Can't wait to get it on the road in his memory.
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oldwood
Posted 2013-12-23 9:51 PM (#418103 - in reply to #418102)
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Nothing wrong with a /6 and a 3 on da tree. I know since I drive 2 of them.
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Posted 2013-12-24 1:17 AM (#418116 - in reply to #418103)
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oldwood - 2013-12-23 6:51 PM

Nothing wrong with a /6 and a 3 on da tree. I know since I drive 2 of them.


Amen!

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Posted 2013-12-24 4:16 PM (#418213 - in reply to #417700)
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2464 '61 PLYMOUTH 2 dr wagons sold. $2602.00 w/6 cyl
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Posted 2013-12-24 4:27 PM (#418217 - in reply to #418103)
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oldwood - 2013-12-23 8:51 PM

Nothing wrong with a /6 and a 3 on da tree. I know since I drive 2 of them.
It makes em a little cheaper to buy & put a real engine in!
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oldwood
Posted 2013-12-24 6:27 PM (#418264 - in reply to #418217)
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That'.s why they call them the "Leaning Tower of Power". AKA know as a REAL engine.

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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-12-24 8:25 PM (#418280 - in reply to #418264)
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Youse guys with slant sixes ....

How does a well-tuned 225 compare to a 318 2bbl for fuel consumption and giddyup
when pushing a full-size (non-Valiant) Forward Look car around ?
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oldwood
Posted 2013-12-24 9:50 PM (#418283 - in reply to #418280)
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We all know the old saying : there is no substitution for cubic inches!!! With that being said the /6 will make you a believer. Youtube has a lot of /6 race video's.
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Posted 2013-12-24 10:46 PM (#418289 - in reply to #418283)
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A race prepped 225 vs a race prepped 241 Hemi would be interesting....
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Posted 2013-12-25 3:47 AM (#418313 - in reply to #418283)
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I don't mean for racing. That typically makes a car pretty much unusable as a driver. I mean,
as a well tweaked, streetable build, how does a 225 perform ? We know they kick a Valiant down
the road real well, but how about in a 60 Dart or 61 Plymouth ?
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Posted 2013-12-25 4:12 AM (#418316 - in reply to #417700)
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in 72 we had a 60 dodge slant 6 stock car . we thought it ran real well on the track with small block v-8's . one day two guys from town came over just after we did a few small things to er . they wanted
to know what motor it had , we wouldn't tell em . so one of the car co-owners told em to jump in we'd take em for a ride out the lane out on the hard road a bit and back . we all jumped in , out the lane we
went flyin , dust everywhere , hit the hard road . went up to the wide intersection and spun around back the other way without stoppin . that was a real treat in itself with a locked rear end . so back down the
road we went , back up the lane and parked . the first thing they said was you gotta tell us what motor you got , lets see . earlier we hinted it might be a 318 and kept up the farce , throwin in it was a slant 6 about
every other sentence . they weren't believin it was a 6 and wantin to know the real size of the motor , it can't be a slant six but it was . they left never knowing what size it was but for sure they wouldn't
agree it was a 6 . it ran pretty good -----------------------------------------------------------later
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61ply2drwgn
Posted 2014-08-17 5:42 PM (#453320 - in reply to #417700)
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The wagon is running and driving now. Now to start on the body work and get it painted. Here are some updated pictures. I went with a 318 Magnum because I can get parts anywhere and I had it laying around.



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fenix
Posted 2014-08-17 6:26 PM (#453329 - in reply to #417700)
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Very nice sure cleaned up well, very nice indeed. To bad it's a 61, nobody loves them.
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Posted 2014-08-17 10:26 PM (#453360 - in reply to #417700)
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I do, I do.... sweet Car!!!
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Posted 2014-08-18 7:15 AM (#453380 - in reply to #417700)
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Looking great, Derek! That engine looks like it slipped in there nicely. Glad she's on the road again.
What color will you paint her?
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Posted 2014-08-18 10:22 AM (#453396 - in reply to #453380)
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Great looking '61. Did you keep the column shifter intact??? Now the real fun begins: what is that thing!!!
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Posted 2014-08-18 10:55 AM (#453405 - in reply to #453396)
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I'm going Hot Rod black on the bottom and a silver with lots of metal flake on the top. I want an old school hot rod look. I changed out the steering column to an automatic column and I put in a cheap floor shifter for now. May do push buttons later on. I need to get a speedo cable. Does Imperial make one that would fit a later 727. It is out of a 73 Cuda. I also need to find a tail light pod for a wagon. I have several car ones that are chrome. One of mine the mice built a nest in it and it is rusted pretty bad. Its funny that most people think the car ones are the same until you show them.
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Posted 2014-08-18 11:01 AM (#453406 - in reply to #453380)
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SavoyPlaza, does your wagon still have the military order/vin plate on the firewall. Mine is still there. I need to get a good pic of it and post it.
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Posted 2014-08-18 11:48 AM (#453412 - in reply to #453406)
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I have a plain steel one I'll donate to the cause, the cause being, I don't want any ugly 61 Plymouth parts in my yard, pay shipping and it's yourn.
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Posted 2014-08-18 5:58 PM (#453463 - in reply to #417700)
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Mine does not have a plate on the firewall, just on the inner fender, as pictured.
It is marked "US Property".
Please post yours when you get the chance.
Pete



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Posted 2014-08-18 6:47 PM (#453470 - in reply to #453463)
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Those are nice cars, and you can do whatever you want to do with them, but they would be of some value if someone (-else, ok?)
would restore one of these rides to their OEM appearance.

There is a huge X-military vehicle hobby, out there, and this car would be very popular with them that do collect these vehicles.

The "For Official Use Only" or the "Air Force" stencil(s) on the doors would look Kool.

Being strippers, these (13??) cars would certainly be easy restorations.

I wonder if one of them could be set up as being for Military Police usage?







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61ply2drwgn
Posted 2014-08-18 9:55 PM (#453500 - in reply to #453463)
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My plate looks just like that. I will try to get a good pic of it. I will also post the #'s off of it see it they went to the same place.
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Posted 2014-08-18 9:58 PM (#453501 - in reply to #453463)
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SavoyPlaza - 2014-08-18 5:58 PM

Mine does not have a plate on the firewall, just on the inner fender, as pictured.
It is marked "US Property".
Please post yours when you get the chance.
Pete


Very rare military carb scoop also.
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fenix
Posted 2014-08-18 9:59 PM (#453503 - in reply to #417700)
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So, i guess ya don't want the tail light housing.
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61ply2drwgn
Posted 2014-08-18 10:27 PM (#453508 - in reply to #453503)
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Fenix, PM sent
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Posted 2014-08-21 6:36 PM (#453837 - in reply to #417700)
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Posted 2014-08-22 9:11 PM (#453959 - in reply to #453463)
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SavoyPlaza, I pulled my plate off the wagon so I could clean it. I will post it asap. Mine is a little different. It does not have the FSN #, but in the big box it has 108217. In the contract # it has: DA-20-113-ORD26560 Mine has some over spray on it so I am going to clean it gently so I can get a better picture.
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61ply2drwgn
Posted 2015-06-04 11:22 AM (#480399 - in reply to #453959)
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My wagon is finally home from the paint shop. Now the reassembly begins. Hunting down the fasteners and clips has been a major pain over the last two days. I will post more when I get the bumpers hung and a few more pieces mounted.



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61ply2drwgn
Posted 2015-06-04 9:58 PM (#480453 - in reply to #480399)
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A few more from this afternoon. Next up will be getting the driver's side trim repaired and weather stripping. Still need some clips for the long quarter mouldings and can't find the weird screws for the front park lenses, I have one. Need to get the rubber bumpers for the hood also.



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Posted 2015-06-04 11:38 PM (#480459 - in reply to #417700)
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try Gary Goers to see if he has those clips or go on ebay
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