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Windsor59
Posted 2013-08-24 3:49 PM (#393185 - in reply to #393176)
Subject: Re: 59 Desoto convertible



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Sure, this lovely renovated Firesweep
(have set similar renovated by a friend and became very fine, he renovated Ford 1960) So you're going to fix this renovation
Personally I do not when you take a 2dr/ht body and moving all conv parts.
Does not feel right, I do not real conv
There are those here in Sweden.
I know of many who are not genuine
(Ok with fake but they should not be called genuine conv but rebuilt cloned)
I'd would rather own a genuine Firesweep orginal conv than a clonad Top off the line conv
It is my opinion

Took this picture of one of 2 FL cars that would be conv in the next life. X is still missing on the frame.
Then you have to have a big wallet to afford to buy the "real conv."
It's like making up a pig = procedure, a pig

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christine-lover
Posted 2013-08-24 4:15 PM (#393187 - in reply to #393185)
Subject: Re: 59 Desoto convertible



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But Joakim. If you buy donor car and remove panels from that and weld onto Conv it is no clone. I guess leaving the conv cowl into the conv frame while work is being done and trying to save as much original sheet metal off conv. Restoration sometimes, many times with 57-59 Mopar Conv needs so much metal work replacement.
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Windsor59
Posted 2013-08-24 4:33 PM (#393190 - in reply to #393187)
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You are right in what you say about many original genuine need conv plate. But what I want is when the car switches id
I know it is not easy to know where to draw the line on how much metal can be replaced and weld in X in the frame, (I do not like when they found an ID from a conv and make a n 2dr/ht a conv should I say) I have many examples of cars that I know if they have taken a 2dr/ht body and moved across all major conv parts and sheet and transferred id mm.
I would not like to pay much money for such a car.
Safe-half or less, my opinion. For others, it does not matter if it's done so, and pay and are happy that they have a conv
I'll be sure to get crappy for this but I will not reveal any cars that I know of that is said to be genuine as an example of my claim
Maybe we should have a separate thread on this? on what is real or unreal?

Let the 2dr/ht cars have become 2dr/ht and otherwise made up

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christine-lover
Posted 2013-08-24 5:17 PM (#393195 - in reply to #393190)
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I agree with you Joakim on this, it is important to keep original Conv frame and to keep as much original parts possible. I would hate to buy a convertible and have it had it based on a hardtop. Your right when it switches ownership and no one knows restoration history of it, that's no good. I would like to see restoration photos if buying a finished car. Maybe we need another thread for this and not use Wayne's.
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Windsor59
Posted 2013-08-24 5:23 PM (#393196 - in reply to #393195)
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You are so right, we leave this authenticity.
And let Wayne's nice and rare 59 conv get to be in the limelight

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d500neil
Posted 2013-08-24 6:14 PM (#393204 - in reply to #391892)
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This SWB (Short Wheel Base) DeSoto is just flat Kool.

And, its 361 c.i. engine was the 1958 D500 and the 1962 Polara 500/Sport Fury engines.

Once properly restored, this ride would be jaw dropping, with its side spear (what-ever) and its tail lights.

It needed every c.c./gauge of its convertible rocker panel sheetmetal's thickness.

I would upgrade its single exhaust/2-bbl to "Power Pack" status.

Wayne, I hope that you buy a copy of this car's IBM Build Card.




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d500neil
Posted 2013-08-24 6:18 PM (#393205 - in reply to #391892)
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"Many-a-sedan" has been sacrificed to restore a convertible, but a low #3 (rough, but working) car would greatly simplify
this car's restoration project's costs and protocols.






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d500neil
Posted 2013-08-24 8:14 PM (#393223 - in reply to #391892)
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Speaking of SWB, notice how distorted the long-nose 1959 Big-Soto looks, compared to the '59 Sweep vert...






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w.weiland
Posted 2013-08-24 8:48 PM (#393227 - in reply to #393223)
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d500neil - 2013-08-24 8:14 PM

Speaking of SWB, notice how distorted the long-nose 1959 Big-Soto looks, compared to the '59 Sweep vert...



Your right, I like the shorter nose better. I believe the way I will end up doing this car, is to make it back to orginal, but if I ordered it, with the options I would of in the day. That make sense? I already purchased a power swivel seat for it. I think either blue, green or gold NOT RED.

I want to thank everyone for the education thus far also. The car will be driven also. For those of you that have seen my dad's 60 Phoenix conv, this car will follow that same path as for the restoration result

Now I just need to get a 58 Chevy wagon out of my garage so this can get start

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d500neil
Posted 2013-08-24 10:15 PM (#393233 - in reply to #391892)
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Both the blue & the Green are pretty, but this guy was built in Blue.








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d500neil
Posted 2013-08-25 3:13 AM (#393257 - in reply to #391892)
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Glacier Blue Poly looks like good old MoPar B5 (or is that B7?) Blue; here's a couple representations on how your car might look
in Blue:

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firedome
Posted 2013-08-25 11:18 AM (#393280 - in reply to #391892)
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That's B-5 I believe, just like the '70 F3 vert I recently sold.

There's plenty of folks in this country that would take this on, and we have several examples right here! Sure hope you get it done Wayne, it well deserves it.

I still kick myself in the butt for turning down a #3 solid and running black '59 Adventurer for $5k right here in Binghamton around 1985, it was at Bob Vitali's used car lot, still in business...I told Alan Ralston about it, he flew in, drove it home, still has it. And yes, I was holding out for a '58 Adv 'vert, and never found one. Lesson: sometimes it's best to go with what you can find rather than chase a dream that never happens.

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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-08-26 1:43 PM (#393468 - in reply to #393223)
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d500neil - 2013-08-25 5:14 PM

Speaking of SWB, notice how distorted the long-nose 1959 Big-Soto looks, compared to the '59 Sweep vert...




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Also notice how that fat disc "thing" hangs over the headlights like a hamburger bun ? WTF ?
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w.weiland
Posted 2014-03-09 5:51 PM (#430539 - in reply to #393048)
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Ok folks. My hopes in the next year is to start on this car, BUT......I am going to throw this out there for some to chew on. I will trade/swap for a 57-58 Desoto Dodge conv of equal condition has to be complete with title and tags. This car isn't that bad when you start looking deeper into it. As I said hopes within next 14 months I will be starting on it unless.........
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RockinAllOver
Posted 2014-03-09 11:30 PM (#430567 - in reply to #391892)
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I think it would be a beautiful car restored back to origional. That car is about 32 shades of cool. Good luck with it.
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firedome
Posted 2014-03-13 12:59 PM (#431039 - in reply to #391892)
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No offense, just sayin' and more power to you if you can Wayne, but I don't think many people would jump on the opportunity to swap a 57/8 DeS-Dodge convert for the same in an equal condition '59 DeSoto, but you never know, can't blame a man for trying and it only takes one!

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w.weiland
Posted 2014-03-13 8:57 PM (#431113 - in reply to #431039)
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firedome - 2014-03-13 12:59 PM

No offense, just sayin' and more power to you if you can Wayne, but I don't think many people would jump on the opportunity to swap a 57/8 DeS-Dodge convert for the same in an equal condition '59 DeSoto, but you never know, can't blameb a man for trying and it only takes one!


As the saying goes nothing ventured nothing gained
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Powerflite
Posted 2014-03-14 5:23 PM (#431234 - in reply to #393176)
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I like the '59 sweep better then the bigger cars of that year. This is an awesome project. If you cut it up to use on something else, I think you will eventually regret it.
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ronbo97
Posted 2014-03-14 6:09 PM (#431239 - in reply to #431234)
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I agree with powerflite. I would take this car over a 57/8, and probably over the senior model Desotos. If you have the skills of Big M, it would be cool to see this guy come back from the dead.

Ron

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christine-lover
Posted 2014-03-16 7:08 PM (#431519 - in reply to #391892)
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Did you contact the guy in Canada with the 58 Firedome, the ad that parat11 posted.
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w.weiland
Posted 2014-03-16 9:54 PM (#431561 - in reply to #431519)
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christine-lover - 2014-03-16 7:08 PM

Did you contact the guy in Canada with the 58 Firedome, the ad that parat11 posted.

Sure did. He wants to sell outright no trades
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The Chrysler Kid
Posted 2014-03-16 9:57 PM (#431563 - in reply to #391892)
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Did you get any pictures of it? Would like to see an unrestored car...
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w.weiland
Posted 2023-02-04 4:37 PM (#627367 - in reply to #431113)
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SOOOO...
i just about have everything i need to start this project possibly this next winter.

my question is, this car was originally gray does anyone have a picture of a 59 desoto in the original gray color
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