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BarnFind57
Posted 2012-05-17 10:00 PM (#321686 - in reply to #321510)
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ThomasD500 - 2012-05-16 8:40 PM

What paint did you use on your valence?


Another temporary solution. I used some rattle can bright silver paint. I need to look and see brand and name. Honestly, it was on the shelf, and when I sprayed it from a distance away, it made a real nice, matte finish. Close to the high dollar jobs I have seen. If I can figure out what it was, I'll post it up. Like I said, it was on the shelf and I actually used the rest of the can and tossed it.

Nothing like being particular, huh?

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BarnFind57
Posted 2012-05-19 10:27 AM (#321888 - in reply to #321510)
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ThomasD500 - 2012-05-16 8:40 PM

What paint did you use on your valence?


Okay... so, I had to go get some more of it... I thought I had a good coat of paint on the panels, but after sitting away for a couple of days, I looked and realized that it was a little thin in spots. I went to the parts store, like I did the first time for whatever it was that I bought it for... and found some more like it. Actually, reading the can, I think it's designed for use with a clear coat, but it seems to have a great finish like it is for what I wanted it for.

- Dupli-Color "Perfect Match" premium automotive paint
- p/n DSCC410 / T363
- "Bright Silver Metallic"

Actually, funny thing is, on the can it is specifically labeled as "Duplicates Original Chrysler Colors"....

I guess it does.



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ThomasD500
Posted 2012-05-19 9:31 PM (#321953 - in reply to #266188)
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Yeah, it's looks great (the valence) and I need to paint mine the same. Thanks for the info!
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BarnFind57
Posted 2012-05-21 6:57 AM (#322161 - in reply to #266188)
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Holy Cow... what a weekend...

The little lady rolled out for Nashville Friday afternoon, leaving me a full weekend of just me and the dog. Other than a little time here and there to walk her, and of course, chase her around the house, throwing some plush chew toys (hey, it can't all be work), I was in the garage, and outside the garage, working on the Plymouth from sun-up to way beyond sun-down... and I got a LOT done.

The weekend checklist:

- Finished the straightening of the right front fender. Got most of the filler work done.
- Completed the filler work and block sanding on the doors, passenger rear quarter, and the couple of little spots on the roof. The body is quite nice and straight now.
- Re-sprayed the entire body with a second coat of epoxy primer.
- Primed and painted the passenger rear door jamb.
- Filled, sanded, primed and painted all of the door sills with the two colors of paint.
- Filled all of the little imperfections on the body shell with Glazing Putty.
- Got the second coat of paint on the front valances.
- Re-installed my fuel tank, with the new used j-bolts I got off of ebay.

Now I just have to finish up the filler/putty work on the front fenders. The body is already prepped for the lighter color, that should happen tonight.

All in all, a VERY good weekend of work.

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Posted 2012-05-21 9:55 AM (#322184 - in reply to #266188)
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Amazing how much you can get done when left to your own devices isnt it

If my wife and kids leave me to it, I get a lot done as well

Wish mine had less rust in it though

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BarnFind57
Posted 2012-05-21 2:44 PM (#322222 - in reply to #266188)
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Yeah, I really lucked on this one, as solid as it is. I have rebuilt badly rotten cars from the ground up. Those wear you out. There's plenty to do on this one though. The wreck damage took a long time to make correct. I just wish everything was as straight as the left rear quarter.

I get more work done on a weekend alone than in a couple of weeks when I am one of 5 in the house.

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BarnFind57
Posted 2012-05-22 7:56 AM (#322310 - in reply to #266188)
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Well... that couldn't have gone much worse if I tried... allow me to list the mistakes/ errors occurred...

1.) My Halogen fixture died on me, so I was going off of my garage lighting only, and it was getting dark by the time I got started..... Lots of flourescents, but still all above, so low side lighting was poor. I thought I would be able to see well enough. I was wrong. Ended up with some runs/sags down low on the rear quarters/doors...

2.) My plastic was carefully draped on the floor. I never have taped it down. I will from now on. At some point, after I had already painted the roof, a nasty thunderstorm moved in, along with it some strong wind. The gap I was using as a vent for my fans had the opposite effect, and as I was painting the lower areas, a strong wind came in from below, blowing my plastic all the way forward, and tagging the paint in the process on the driver's side...

3.) I failed to clean out the strainer in my HVLP gun before starting... again... something I will do from now on... It started spitting on me at the tail end, so the paint is none too even there...

4.) At some point the same offending wind rushed in through the side windows (screened, thank heavens, but open for ventilation) and blew my large project board off the work table, taking with it the plastic I had draped over the surface to protect it, stirring up some dust for good measure, which found it's way to the roof, of course...


So, all in all, it went terribly. I do think the roof is decent, should sand down and polish out just lovely... the lower sections, not so sure. I will try, but am thinking the best bet would be to flat it really well, then apply one last coat of paint to that area. That's probably where I am at there.

The color is pretty, though... and, in spite of the needed fixing, I am smiling from having shiny paint on the car once again.

See the shiny....



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57plymouth
Posted 2012-05-22 8:18 AM (#322313 - in reply to #266188)
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I've had days like that. I painted a drum set last month and the degreaser reacted with the paint and it puckered up like truck bed liner. I had to sand it back down and repaint. Since it was my mistake I couldn't charge the customer for the added time of course. I won't be using DuPont degreaser again!
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BarnFind57
Posted 2012-05-22 9:03 AM (#322319 - in reply to #266188)
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I was thinking of a Rodney Dangerfield line...

"This morning, I put on my shirt, a button fell off.... I picked up my briefcase, the handle fell off.... I'm afraid to go to the bathroom...."


Eh, it is what it is... lessons learned that can be rectified before the other color goes on... so no harm done. This color I can sand down no problem.. Not so with the metallic colors. Better that it happened now...

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savoy_man
Posted 2012-05-22 4:22 PM (#322390 - in reply to #266188)
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I have had many of the same things happen so I know how you feel. I even have a similar thunderstorm story but it blew a hood over which hit the freshly painted car. If it is any consolation though, things are looking really good on the old girl.

Why do you put plastic on the floor? When I paint I usually wet the floor down thoroughly. That way the overspray gets trapped in the water. You do get wet when bending down to paint the bottoms but I feel it really keeps the dust down.
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Posted 2012-05-22 5:10 PM (#322398 - in reply to #266188)
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Sorry you had a crummy day... but the color really is nice.
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Posted 2012-05-22 10:57 PM (#322444 - in reply to #266188)
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Well, I can officially lower the threat level back to green...

I came home this evening, determined to assess the situation with the paint, before moving on with the final body work and color number two.

The lower section is going to need another coat. I attempted to sand out the runs, and hit primer in a couple small spots. No biggee... just gotta finish sanding down the lower sections and tail, and shoot the paint there. Done deal.

The roof was better than I could have hoped for. I got the whole roof flatted, then proceeded to work my way up to a 2000 grit wet sanding on half of the roof. The results were spectacular. I have a pretty, super smooth shine and I haven't even buffed it out yet.

I should finish up with the sanding parts tomorrow, and get the touch-up coat of paint on the following day. Should be able to finish up the front fenders, and the Main body color sprayed this weekend. Then, it's on to reassembly.

June 6th.... no problem...

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57plymouth
Posted 2012-05-23 8:28 AM (#322467 - in reply to #266188)
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You just jinxed it.
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Posted 2012-05-23 8:48 AM (#322468 - in reply to #322467)
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57plymouth - 2012-05-23 8:28 AM

You just jinxed it.


You're probably right...

but I like a challenge...



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BarnFind57
Posted 2012-05-23 8:51 AM (#322470 - in reply to #322390)
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savoy_man - 2012-05-22 4:22 PM

I have had many of the same things happen so I know how you feel. I even have a similar thunderstorm story but it blew a hood over which hit the freshly painted car. If it is any consolation though, things are looking really good on the old girl.

Why do you put plastic on the floor? When I paint I usually wet the floor down thoroughly. That way the overspray gets trapped in the water. You do get wet when bending down to paint the bottoms but I feel it really keeps the dust down.


Me too... I just had plastic thrown down so I could roll around and get the undersides of the rockers and to keep some of the overspray off of the wheels and tires (yeah, that worked )....

Next time, i am just sticking with the wet floor method. I don't know why I have a system that works, and I just have to mess with it....

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Posted 2012-05-23 11:54 PM (#322635 - in reply to #266188)
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So, this evening, without a thunderstorm, spray gun malfunctions, strong winds, tangled plastic (I didn't even put that bull mess down this time), and realizing that light was my friend, I managed to make some progress.

First the wet-sanding from last night. Good shine started up already, really smooth. Still got a bit more to do here, then the other half of the roof...





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Posted 2012-05-23 11:57 PM (#322636 - in reply to #266188)
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And then... got the lower sections fully sanded flat and smooth, and re-sprayed the Satin Gray. Thanks to my mess-up with the painting, I ended up having to mix the rest of what I had... none for a touch-up there, I am afraid.... The last pic is what was actually left in my gun at the end of the spray party...





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BarnFind57
Posted 2012-05-23 11:59 PM (#322637 - in reply to #266188)
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And, this little guy has been hanging out with me through the whole deal... My dad found it for me, and I used to look at it, wondering when I would have thre real thing to ride around in. That time is near.





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BarnFind57
Posted 2012-05-24 7:59 AM (#322658 - in reply to #266188)
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The lighting/flash was kinda squirrelly in those pics. The color is actually really light. The roof pic is closest.

I went out to the garage to make sure the paint hadn't fallen off last night wihile I was sleeping.... it was still there. I am happy to be seeing paint on this old gal. It is helping to re-energize my worn-out self at the tail-end of this marathon build I have been doing.

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Posted 2012-05-24 9:49 AM (#322668 - in reply to #266188)
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Keep at it man. It's looking good. I know how sometimes it feels like it will never get done but there is no feeling like finishing a car and stepping back and saying "I did that". I'm anxiously awaiting more updates.
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BarnFind57
Posted 2012-05-25 8:26 AM (#322795 - in reply to #266188)
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Roof still needs a bit more wet sanding to clear up the remaining sander swirls from my efforts to flatten the lumps. It actually won't show in wedding pics, so that may have to wait till later. Right now it's all about the countdown... froo-froo work will have to wait, it gets shuffled out of the way for the necessary stuff.

Las pic of the roof, I swear....





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BarnFind57
Posted 2012-05-29 7:41 AM (#323346 - in reply to #266188)
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Finally finished (well, good enough for my purposes) the body work. She's still a bit wavy, but it will make a nice 20 footer.

That's actually still more than I had ever intended to do with the car, so I am not going to obsess over perfectly straight panels. It's the nicest, closest to a finished project I have had in many years.... so I'm all good....

I got everything masked off, and sprayed a couple coats of the Silver Charcoal on. Once again, painting when it was too dark (sound familiar) and It had a few minor runs in it, and not the smoothest surface. The paint is a really high metal content paint, so you have to spray it and buff it... no sanding... so tonight I will sand it all flat and prep it. Then, TOMORROW when the light is still good, I will finish painting. Was disappointed in the finish, which happens all too easy when you are rushing to get anything done, but I will simply slow down, flat it all out, and keep on kicking. I used about half of the paint so far, so I should be good to finish it up run and drip free. It's fightin' me, but we'll get there. Cutting it kinda close, but still on track to meet the deadline.

Good news is that the color is quite beautiful, and in the light, it's quite spectacular.

My arms will definitely be happy once all this sanding is over with.

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Posted 2012-05-29 7:52 AM (#323350 - in reply to #266188)
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I hope your metallic single stage comes up better than the last car I painted in metallic single stage. Taught me the importance of clear coat!
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Posted 2012-05-29 7:59 AM (#323351 - in reply to #323350)
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57plymouth - 2012-05-29 7:52 AM

I hope your metallic single stage comes up better than the last car I painted in metallic single stage. Taught me the importance of clear coat!


Oh, yeah... this stuff is a true PITA.

You have to basically "chase the paint" all the way around the car.... You spray on a wet coat, go to the next section, then back and bring the gun back, fog the paint, then back to a new section, then back, each time coming back a little so that you get the metallic just right. I proved to myself last night just how crucial GOOD lighting will be for this paint. That's why tonight I will get the body ready, but not touch it, so I can have every extra bit of light possible when I actuall go to spray the car on Wednesday. I am also gonna break out the extra standing lights as well..

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Posted 2012-05-29 8:29 AM (#323353 - in reply to #266188)
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So I guess you have to have a helper to mix paint while you shoot! No time to mix the next gun load while you're backtracking all over yourself. No wonder you had some runs if you are shooting that wet.
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Posted 2012-05-29 8:32 AM (#323354 - in reply to #323353)
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57plymouth - 2012-05-29 8:29 AM

So I guess you have to have a helper to mix paint while you shoot!


Pretty much... and I didn't....

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Posted 2012-05-30 8:09 AM (#323585 - in reply to #266188)
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Got her all sanded down last night, spotted a little dark gray primer on the body where it was a bit thin....

Amanda followed me around the car, I sanding and her cleaning/scrubbing the panels behind me.

When we finished up, I was sitting on my rolling stool, exhausted, staring at the flat, dull gray surface.... She looks at me and says," It's kinda funny."

I said, "What?"

She says, "All that work, and it looks just like it did when you brought it home."

We both died laughing at that point.... because she was pretty much right...

Paint tonight!

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Posted 2012-06-01 8:18 AM (#323931 - in reply to #266188)
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To those who have asked....

Yes, I am still alive....

And still wet sanding...

And still buffing...

Amanda has her Cosco still set up in the garage, towels laid out... polishing all the stainless and chrome...

It's gonna be close (it always is when there is a deadline)...

But, a little teaser / spy shot....







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Posted 2012-06-01 8:37 AM (#323932 - in reply to #266188)
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I've been waiting all week for this!
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Posted 2012-06-01 9:29 AM (#323936 - in reply to #266188)
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The suspense builds...

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Posted 2012-06-01 12:09 PM (#323951 - in reply to #323936)
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I don't think Rick even has a Savoy. He has been leading all of along. Wait a minute, April 1st has come and gone. Maybe there is a Savoy!!! Your running out of time. I didn't get an invitation.
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Posted 2012-06-02 11:53 PM (#324120 - in reply to #266188)
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Rockin' and Rollin' here....

Got most of the way around the body with the super-shinin'. Still have to do the hood and right front fender. The whole time I was sanding and polishing, the little lady and the three littler ladies were sitting at the kitchen table that she had coverd with large towels... polishing up all the chrome and stainless trim. Actually managed to get a little of it bolted up to the body today. Also got my wheels cleaned up and painted... they are now ready to meet up with the tires that have been sitting at my work... waiting....

She's really taking shape now.

Hard to get good pics in the cramped garage, but here's one... I am in love with the colors on this car.....





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Posted 2012-06-03 1:24 AM (#324131 - in reply to #266188)
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Yeah, Man! Go On, Rick, Git 'er Done!!
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Posted 2012-06-04 4:07 PM (#324321 - in reply to #266188)
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^^^ I'm a tryin'!



Got her face all put back on and straight late last night. Then I lost a lot of time because I just stood there forever, smiling...

Installed the tires on the rims today on my lunch, went home, hung them on the car with a couple bolts, then drove rapidly back to work. This close proximity of work and home thing has been a huge blessing.

Hope to get the rest of the body buffed out tonight, and the door glass put back in.

Gettin' it done!

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Posted 2012-06-04 7:56 PM (#324361 - in reply to #266188)
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Having a deadline really helps, keeps the motovation going

Your so close now, I think we can all taste it lol

When its all done, you going to get another one to do (since your on a roll)?

You can just keep pumping them out

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Posted 2012-06-05 8:17 AM (#324421 - in reply to #266188)
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^^^ Yeah, the deadline does help.

My usual method is to buy a project, do all the nasty cutting, welding, straightening, then fix all the mechanicals, and sell it to someone else who puts the icing on the cake, and enjoys the benefits of my hard work...

This one isn't going anywhere. I set out to build a 25 foot car. I am gonna have more like a 10 footer, so I am pleased. The body is still a bit wavy on the passenger side. And the paint shows up good in pics, but has it's shortfalls. My garage is not at all a good candidate for a paint booth. Like I said from the beginning, something pretty shiny and straight, that I wouldn't be afraid of leaving in a parking lot.

Last night, I tightened up the wheel bolts and sat her back on the ground. ..finished the little tid bits on the front (lettering polished/installed and fender spears on). Got the harnesses run around the front, and reinstalled the wiring block on the core support. Got the hood and fender buffed out. Got the lower stainless trim polished out and installed on the driver's side.

Ran out of time and steam around 2:40 a.m...

Tonight I will finish up the buffing, and install the door glass and remaining trim, hopefully get the interior tossed back in. Let's not forget the car is for my wedding, and, while Amanda is doing the big majority of that stuff, I am pausing on the car a good bit to help her. 5 days from now I will sleep... not untill then....

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Posted 2012-06-07 10:44 AM (#324681 - in reply to #266188)
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Yesterday was like any other day of the week...

I got up, got ready, got in the car, and went to work...

The only difference was that this is the car I got in to go to work...




She's not all the way together, but gettin' there. Paint still needs some attention, but that will give me something to piddle with this winter.





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Posted 2012-06-07 2:31 PM (#324697 - in reply to #266188)
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She looks just fabulous, what a set of wheels to get hitched in - congrats on gittin 'er done!!
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Posted 2012-06-07 2:37 PM (#324698 - in reply to #266188)
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savoy_man
Posted 2012-06-07 2:41 PM (#324699 - in reply to #266188)
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That's awesome. You really should be proud of yourself.
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57plymouth
Posted 2012-06-07 3:28 PM (#324704 - in reply to #266188)
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That looks incredible! Great work in just a little time!
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SavoyPlaza
Posted 2012-06-07 3:44 PM (#324709 - in reply to #266188)
Subject: RE: New Member... 1957 Plymouth Savoy



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She is beau-ti-mus, Rick! The colors look perfect.
Looking forward to lots more photos.
Pete

By the way, nice blue-walls, Clark!

Just kidding!!
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bel5758
Posted 2012-06-07 7:27 PM (#324728 - in reply to #324709)
Subject: RE: New Member... 1957 Plymouth Savoy


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What a moment that must have been firing her up for the drive to work....very well done, hats off to you, good taste, and congratulations.
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Finsinthemirror
Posted 2012-06-07 8:57 PM (#324734 - in reply to #324728)
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Agreed here! Great car and great job! I forgot these cars came in something other than red, what a beauty!
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OldiesNut
Posted 2012-06-08 1:30 AM (#324751 - in reply to #266188)
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What a shark, what a blue-walled SHARK!

Well done, sah! Jolly good shew!
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57plybel
Posted 2012-06-08 6:09 AM (#324757 - in reply to #266188)
Subject: RE: New Member... 1957 Plymouth Savoy



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WOW !    Very respectable looking.  Hope you hang on to it and enjoy all the hard work you put in to it.

This has been my favourite thread, of late !

 

 

Colin

 

PS  That grille looks great. I'll have to search and see how you did it...

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oldwood
Posted 2012-06-08 8:22 AM (#324765 - in reply to #324757)
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I guess we will all see you in your Zoot Suit in your New ride on the wedding day. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrreat Job!!!
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LookForward
Posted 2012-06-08 10:27 AM (#324772 - in reply to #266188)
Subject: RE: New Member... 1957 Plymouth Savoy



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Congratulations Rick, looks great! More pics!
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FIN ME
Posted 2012-06-08 3:33 PM (#324812 - in reply to #266188)
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Darn nice work!

The colour of a beautiful, blue flannel suit...tasteful as all heck!


Enjoy!




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1958 Plymouth Infina
Posted 2012-06-08 4:15 PM (#324819 - in reply to #324812)
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I like the tires!

Edited by 1958 Plymouth Infina 2012-06-08 4:17 PM
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