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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | Still stripping paint... this thing is big....  I got a fabric sample from SMS yesterday... they do have my fabric, in stock... so I think I am gonna have to bite on that one, regardless of the price. Good thing the rest is the more affordable vinyl. Amanda has been in the garage with me the last couple of days, stripping paint, sanding, handing me tools when I was rolling around on the floor.... I do love this woman...  | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | oldwood - 2012-04-17 11:28 AM Its a trick, don't take the bait. Run for your life!!! Nope... no trick.... what she she's in me, I have no idea... but I'm not telling her that.   | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | Stripping is taking a while, but it's going well.  Nasty parts included the right front fender (a 6 cyl. Belvedere was the donor if I am reading the trim hole correctly)... it's a mess of about fourteen different colors of primer and paint over bondo.... and it's still not straight.... gonna require some love there.... The gray paint is gone from about 95% of the car now, and I am sanding the remainder of the primer off... should have that done in another couple of evenings... I wish the whole car was as straight and clean as the driver's side. The metal there is in beautiful condition. I am just looking forward to a full evening of sleep... but none of that till the car is done. Pics, of course.... (058b.jpg) (068b.jpg) (071b.jpg) (086b.jpg) (087b.jpg) (080b.jpg) Attachments ----------------  058b.jpg (204KB - 189 downloads) 068b.jpg (217KB - 166 downloads) 071b.jpg (193KB - 182 downloads) 086b.jpg (192KB - 147 downloads) 087b.jpg (230KB - 151 downloads) 080b.jpg (164KB - 140 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | Few things in this world have ever looked as good as Virgil Exner's lines in bare metal... (076b.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 076b.jpg (214KB - 155 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | Almost forgot... finally cleaned the trunk completely out, vacuumed it out, and did a close inspection... you don't see a trunk pan this solid in a '57 very often... And by solid, I mean it's just surface rust, and not heavy at that... not so much as a pin-hole in sight... (054b.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 054b.jpg (219KB - 148 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | No mail goodies yet, any time now... Got more primer off... the entire trunk/fin area (ecluding the taillamp area) are shiny nekkid metal... The roof is being particularly stubborn... If I wasn't going straight up original, and was building a custom of some sort, I'd be tempted to just spray it in clear and keep on kickin'.... Eh... back to work... | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | So..... Amanda and I are in a little junk shop in downtown Chattanooga last weekend that I had driven by a bunch of times, but they were never open.... It's one of those piles of junk everywhere, some outside stuff (even if it was never originally intended to live outdoors at the beginning of it's life) some inside, boxes, stacks, piles,etc.... everything from door knobs to circuit breakers, tools to garden ironwork, you get the idea.... I am looking through some art books in the corner, she is up the aisle from me and says, "No... this is your box over here" I look over and she has found several boxes of chrome emblems, dealer tags, etc... there was even a "1500S Variant" tag from a Volkswagen Notchback in there.... you hardly ever see the cars, much less the body badges laying around... She is pulling something out of the box when I come up and says... "Check it out, there's two of them in here..." $20 later, I left with a pair of twin strut Mopar "1801" mirrors that needed re-chroming, but they moved, and weren't beat up, so they should be excellent donors. Mama gets the "Score of the Day" award for that Saturday.  Oh, and yesterday I was doing a search on this forum regarding the placement of said mirrors (I have managed to collect up three of them now to build a couple good ones), found the info... then last night, I was sanding the last of the primer off of the passenger side before welding on some new metal, and I found two little spots of filler near the rear edge... you'll never guess what those were for.... Pre-drilled fenders.... Sweet! | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | firedome - 2012-04-26 4:13 PM I love that such attention to quality and detail is being lavished on a "lowly" 4 dr post car... frankly Id rather see one of these get this kind of treatment than supposedly more "desirable" cars. These and wagons were what most families had... Yeah... that's kinda the way that I have always viewed these cars... The more rare production cars are beautiful, but if I was a family man in the '50s (like I am now), the four-door was where it was at... I do believe, if memory serves, this was the most produced vehicle from the Chrysler corporation for 1957? I love her for her plain-jain.... | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | A couple more pics... The two mirrors on the right are the ones from the swap shop I paid $20 for.... And, more bondo and aluminum sculpture removal... got the donor section installed (Thanks, again, Dorsey!)... got the outer headlamp cover on the passenger side installed, still piecing the inner together, but she's lookin' much better with her new eyebrows.... (013b.jpg) (024b.jpg) (028b.jpg) (032b.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 013b.jpg (233KB - 174 downloads) 024b.jpg (208KB - 167 downloads) 028b.jpg (228KB - 131 downloads) 032b.jpg (198KB - 137 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | Yet another productive day... I have this old gal on the run now, can't stop.... I cleaned up the remaining paint and primer from the sides, started on the roof.... I cut out the good section of the inner headlamp housing for the passenger side, used the rotted metal as the template for what I needed from the repair panel, blended the two, then built up the outer lip, and once that was installed, cut some metal for the outer edge of the fender. Still have to do a little seam welding on it all, but her face lift is nearly complete. I bolted all the sections of the front panels together to line it all up while I was doing the welding... it's starting to look like a car again. Gotta straighten the lip on the passenger front fender... it's pretty ugly.... I also still have three little patches to weld in... rear base of both front fenders, and a spot on the lower rear right quarter, and the welding will be done. Still hoping to have her in Epoxy Primer this week. (012b.jpg) (014b.jpg) (022b.jpg) (023b.jpg) (034b.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 012b.jpg (189KB - 135 downloads) 014b.jpg (233KB - 148 downloads) 022b.jpg (151KB - 129 downloads) 023b.jpg (149KB - 133 downloads) 034b.jpg (186KB - 140 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | oldwood - 2012-04-29 3:15 PM I think you need to cut the the drivers side back off as I see a small hole that will rust out. Yeah.... junk....  Thanks again, man! Made the repair of that side a lot easier. I welded the hole up, BTW... Looks just fine now. | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | big m - 2012-04-30 7:39 PM Nice job of splicing those headlight brows on! Won't be much longer at this rate!! ---John Thanks, John. And, yeah... better not be too much longer.... this is one that I can't finish late. Got my hood letters to replace the three that were poo yesterday afternoon. They look great! One more item checked off of my list thanks to Big M Auto. | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | All of the mounting holes for the mirrors and V8 emblems measured out and drilled.... Forward caps / donor metal seam welded now... Started straightening up the passenger side fender... it really needed some serious lovin', but it's gettin' there... Last, but certainly not least, the roof is completely free of paint now. That was some slow going, between the super thin material that I had to be real careful with, and the surface rust.... gonna have to treat that to some rust converter just for good measure. Less than a month to go now. It'll happen.... (025b.jpg) (016b.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 025b.jpg (189KB - 128 downloads) 016b.jpg (183KB - 157 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | oldwood - 2012-05-02 12:02 AM I remember hearing words: I'm just going to fix a couple of things and drive it. Yea Right!!! Well... yeah... that's kinda what i done did.... Actually, I was just thinking the exact same thing the other day.... just get it running and driving... yeah.... | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | Tail section stripped last night. Roof treated with Rust converter this morning before leaving for work. gonna pick up some Epoxy Primer and at least the lighter body color today on my lunch..... Gettin' closer to pretty time.... Edited by BarnFind57 2012-05-03 8:23 AM | ||
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | I posted a thread on restoration protocols (in the Body board), regarding, specifically, convertibles....but I wondered when it might be easist/best to install the windshield (before or after painting). It would seem to me that it would be a lot less stressful to install a W/S before the final painting is done. I also would like to know that the vinyl top and mechanisms were all aligned and working before the paint is applied, in order to (try to-) avoid unpleasant surprises, like this one.... (PICT5115.JPG) Attachments ---------------- PICT5115.JPG (113KB - 138 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | ^^^ I don't know if you meant to post your question on this thread, Neil, but I can give you an answer.... I have done both. I have painted the welded seam, let it cure some, then installed the glass, and later masked it off and painted. I have also left the glass out, done all the paintwork, and then installed the glass. IMO, if you have the time at your disposal, I would do the latter... Plain and simple, you don't have to go through the trouble of masking the seal/windscreen off, and still run the risk of painting up onto the glass or seal. Also, with the glass left out, you have a clear shot at the painting, no awkward overhangs to paint around. If you are careful, and cover the paintwork to protect it during the glass install, this is still my preferred way of doing it. The only time I have resorted to the earlier method is on a car that is trying to get rapidly to a "driver" status, and the paint has to wait till later. I lucked out on this car... my areas surrounding the seals are actually in really nice shape, so I am gonna fix two little rust spots in the rear channel, glass in place, and keep on kicking. | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | Yeah... I did pull the door glass, just to get paint all the way into the edges of the window openings... But the seals for the big glass are in really great shape, paint is good all around the front and rear glass... I have just a couple of small holes that I can fix/weld up at the base of the rear window, but those aren't involving the sealing of the glass, so I am gonna leave it alone... Also, you can't really tell in the pics, but there is a single crack in the front glass that starts at the top of the windhield, center, curves down towards the driver's side, and stops... all in all about a foot long. Right now it's fine, but if I tried to remove the front glass... you get the picture... For now the windshield stays... | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | For the record, Neil, I work on $50k+ Mercedes and BMW retractable hardtops all the time, disassembling, adjusting, etc... all the while dancing around brand new, flawless paintwork.... I guess I am kinda used to having to be really careful about that kinda stuff by now. I once had to disassemble the entire tail end of a $130k Audi R8 with a gearbox problem... I was doing the PDI when the problem surfaced.... mileage on the car???.... 14.... The salesman (who had already sold the car and taken the deposits... two, for a total of $20k.... ) was a lot more nervous than me.... | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | Yesterday was a good day... got a box from SMS Fabrics... (035b.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 035b.jpg (201KB - 135 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | .... And today was even better... Got the body shell in a coating of Epoxy Primer.... (050b.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 050b.jpg (190KB - 151 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | oldwood - 2012-05-08 10:59 PM That thing is close to being a TRAILER QUEEN!!! If by "trailer queen" you mean me finding a vintage travel trailer, and pulling it behind her some day...... Then, yes.... As with every other older car I have ever owned, SHE WILL BE DRIVEN! | ||
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | |||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | ^^^^^ Jes. It is my PEFERENCE to paint with windows out, but, in the case of this car.... paint around the seals was good... the seals themselves were good... taking them out just to replace what isn't broken is silly to me... but, then again, I don't believe in the "over-resto" concept. To some people, replacing everything in the front end is neccessary when you are "fixing up" an old car.... I am replacing a control arm bushing and an idler arm bushing... because that's what's BAD. I would rather maintain good old made in USA stuff than liberally coat my car in a helping of made in China. Everything I build, I build to drive. That means if I don't make it perfect, I don't have a heart attack when I get a door ding. So, yeah, on this one it was glass in. The exception to that is I did pull the door glass and the remnants of the outside scrapers so I could do away with the little bit of surface rust hiding under there. I will put fresh paint there, and apply some scrapers.... About the worst problem I have right now is that the passenger side (that I straightened) looks great where as the misalignment of the panels on the driver's side is quite noticeable. So it left Evansville, so it shall stay... The window frame area of the driver's rear door was crooked, while the rest of the door straight. I fixed that with a big soft face dead blow hammer.  I figure these cars were far from perfect when they left the factory, the least I can do is polish the turd up a little. And I say that lovingly. | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | ttotired - 2012-05-09 10:57 AM I am jelouse of your progress You must not live in suburbia, I know if I went out after work every day with my sander, it wouldnt be long before I got hate mail from the people that live around me. I am surprised a bit that they havnt had a go at me for doing it all day sundays yet. Actually, I DO live in Suburbia... I like livin' on the edge... I'm just really careful about my noise start/stop times.The clock hits 9:00 p.m. and it's like a Union shop. Noisy tools are immediately put down and the quiet stuff picked up. | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | Thanks for the compliments, folks... she's coming along nicely, and at a ridiculous pace. The thing I look forward to most is a nice long cruise on a beautiful Spring day.... followed by a really long nap... The UPS man dropped these off a bit ago... (002b.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 002b.jpg (198KB - 146 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | Will do. I am gonna be unwrapping them and get them on the freshly painted wheels hopefully in the coming week. Of course, at the moment the wheels are far from freshly painted, and still bolted up to the car. | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | Saturday was a busy day. Got the filler work and block sanding about 90% done on the shell. Started doing the rough-in of the filler over the grafted on seams on the front fenders. Fixed the oil leak at the filter housing by installing a GOOD filter with GOOD seals. I was afraid the EPA would be after me the next time I pulled the car in and out of the garage.... Also, replaced my idler arm bushing. Steering wheel actually moves BOTH wheels now as soon as you turn it... that's nice... Had some red and white mixed up at the paint shop.... Just kidding... Picked up my Satin Gray (roof and sport tones) paint, reducer, and hardener after the guy at the paint shop had spent some time messing with the color to get it pretty dead on. Sprayed a test sample of it, and it looks great. Still need to go back and get some of the primary body color this week, but it's just about perfect, so no surprises there. Tonight I hope to finish up the block sanding on the shell, hang the fenders and hood back on, and get the entire car in Epoxy Primer. After that, should just have my minor bodywork to complete on the right front fender (and maybe a bit more rear quarter massaging)... and she'll be in paint hopefully by week's end. Due to the fact that the event I wanted to attend as inaugural roll out was moved up a week, she's not gonna be ready by then. Kinda bummed, but it takes a LOT of the pressure off of me. Now the June 9th deadline is the only one I am worried about... no worries there... Back to work. | ||
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Expert Posts: 2788 Location: USA - KY | Looking great, Rick! I'm really liking that fabric from SMS - has a nice sparkle to it too. | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | Been stupid busy with the girls the last couple of weeks... Finishing up the school years, field trips, programs, etc... lots of really late nights spent in the garage. Going pretty well. Everything is about multi-tasking... While I have been letting filler cure, I Got my lower valance sections cleaned up and done up nice... (023b.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 023b.jpg (201KB - 140 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | I have also been playing with the chrome bits in the late night hours (the neighbors would not appreciate metal cutting and grinding at 1 a.m.)... and I have managed to pull off some good "10 foot" results. My stainless was all really nice, but the chrome emblems on my car were extremely rough and pitted... the chrome was pretty much toasted. At this point, I have long since run out of money, but wanted to clean these pieces for the wedding pics. Sooooo.... here's some before and after pices of the trunk emblem. I have obtained some pretty convincing chrome plating from a can. I have never had a paint come this close to chrome, and, while it still lacks some of the luster, from only a few feet away, it carries the look of actually chrome that just needs some polishing up... not silver spray paint, like most of what you find out there. In fact, it's actually a bit brighter than the pics show. Regardless, for the $10 worth of primer and paint I bought, it was a helluva deal that will get me by on this stuff till winter time when I actually have the chrome stuff re-plated... See what I done did: (004b.jpg) (008b.jpg) (010b.jpg) (014b.jpg) (013b.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 004b.jpg (229KB - 139 downloads) 008b.jpg (203KB - 148 downloads) 010b.jpg (140KB - 119 downloads) 014b.jpg (179KB - 205 downloads) 013b.jpg (170KB - 190 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | This is the stuff that I used... like I said... Ace Hardware, Chrome aluminum paint, p/n 17006... (027b.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 027b.jpg (127KB - 125 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | big m - 2012-05-16 8:39 PM b5rt - 2012-05-16 4:40 PM Ya know what. You're low on money and in a time crunch, I think it looks pretty darn good! I fully agree!! ---John Thanks, guys... like I said, this kinda stuff works for a temporary solution while I spent the big money on things like the interior fabric and tires that I only want to do once. Overall, I hope that she'll just be a nice driver, that will look great in the wedding pics, and that's more than I had actually intended when I started out on this wild voyage a little over a year ago now. She starts up and idles beautifully... I just want to take her down the road.... but I am trying to be patient... at least untill the body is shiney. | ||
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