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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146     Location: bishop, ca | |||
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| d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | |||
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| BarnFind57 |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | d500neil - 2012-01-24 4:39 PM Bueno! Yeah... I selectively cheat during the make it pretty process....  | ||
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| b5rt |
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| BarnFind57 |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | LookForward - 2012-01-24 8:09 PM That's seriously got to be the prettiest Powerflite I've ever seen. I think I will need to carry an extendable pocket mirror with me so I can show it off to everyone....  And, thanks for the compliment. I just can't wait to feel it shifting smoothly again. Edited by BarnFind57 2012-01-24 9:40 PM | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | b5rt - 2012-01-24 8:38 PM Back on page 4 you have a shot of the bare engine and said you used a chemical rust converter on it. You got a certain brand that you'd recommend? Did you use the same on the trans? The stuff I used on that was called "Rust Cure"... it's a chemical converter that you brush on, and let it sit. Turns everything a dark color, making the rust inactive. It was some leftover that I had from some time ago. They used to sell it at a local shop that did media blasting, that's gone out of business now. I tried to find some more locally, no dice.... I found it on the 'net, but you have to buy it locally (in Texas). It's good, but it is VERY caustic stuff. Shipping isn't avaiable.... I dribbled a little on the concrete floor under the stand, and it ate the finish off, and part of the concrete....  The trans just had some very light rust staining, so I hand sanded that clean, and applied a light coat of the cast gray paint. There are some more, less toxic products out there... guess it's time to look into those now. Here's a link to the stuff I used, if you want to plan a road trip to get it, let me know... I will take some more.  http://www.rust-cure.com/ Edited by BarnFind57 2012-01-24 9:39 PM | ||
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| Christine'sRevenge |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 424 Location: Harrison, NY | |||
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| BarnFind57 |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | Christine'sRevenge - 2012-01-24 11:32 PM Kinda late to the party however very nice 4 door! Good luck. Thanks! The car just arrived here at work a little bit ago. In the daylight I can see a couple spots where my frame spraying is a little thin. I was needing to paint the underside of the frame while it's in the air on the lift anyhoo, so, no big deal there. With it's spot in the garage, I could barely walk alongside the car due to the confined space. Now that I can actually get around it, the newly cleaned forward area makes the rest of the car really look like poo. Oh well, that will come in time too, I guess.  Assembling the plate on the back of the block, and reinstalling the E-Brake drum on the trans today during lunch. Going back together Friday night or Saturday morning. | ||
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| BarnFind57 |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | Well, last night after work, I got the car up in the air on a lift. Took the wheels off, removed the super dead rear shocks (I bought new ones for it, all the way around) blasted the majority of the crud from the rear frame/fenderwell area... insert 15 minute eye flushing for the tiny rust particles that went past my safety glasses.... that kinda sucked.... taped off the front end again, and resprayed the frame, including the under side this time. Much better now, and ready for the powertrain. Arrived at work this morning, the car was still sitting where I left it. I stood there, staring at it... In the quiet serenity of the empty shop, I said, "Show me".... Nothing happened, so I guess I will be installing the engine today myself. Plans for the day: Engine and trans bolt up and install in the car, and rear frame / underbody cleaning and painting. Time permitting, I may try to hit the exhaust and hangers as well. I had more in my mind, but probably better keep it limited. That lessens how much can go wrong... usually.... | ||
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| BarnFind57 |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | Saturday went well. Never made it to the rear end of the car, but still managed to get a lot done. Finished up assmbly of the engine and trans, got them bolted up and in the car. Replaced the worn out front shocks, pulled the rears in anticipation of repaint in the frame / rear axle area. Fixed my leak (I hope) at the trans. control cable. Got the drums cleaned up and painted. Overall, a pretty good day. (025b.jpg) (030b.jpg) (033b.jpg) (038b.jpg) (059b.jpg) Attachments ----------------  025b.jpg (226KB - 142 downloads) 030b.jpg (229KB - 139 downloads) 033b.jpg (234KB - 129 downloads) 038b.jpg (245KB - 129 downloads) 059b.jpg (215KB - 137 downloads) | ||
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| BarnFind57 |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | Been doing lots of little stuff every day. Got the generator cleaned up, painted, and installed. Tying up the loose ends in the powertrain so I will be able to start it up in the next couple of weeks.... Also, pulling the rest of the trim, door panels, gutting the interior mats and seats, etc. to prep for welding, body work, and paint. The right rear door is a mess inside, pretty rusty. The driver's side front door had a layer of dust. After you wipe that out, there's a bright shiny reflection.... I dunno... Still Gotta get the regulator moving in the Passenger Rear door. She's completely frozen up. Gonna have to be gentle.... Making progress... one broken, rusty piece at a time.... I did score a killer deal on some inner headlamp repair panels, now I just need the outers. Coming along nicely. | ||
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| d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | |||
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| BarnFind57 |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | Good info to know. Thanks, Neil. I had actually talked with Big M about one if I need it a while back, just trying to take it apart gently enough to see how many pieces are gonna break... | ||
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| firedome |
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| BarnFind57 |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | Thanks for the compliments. As I have said a couple of times, I really love an untouched, original car. A well restored car is a beautiful thing, but not really for me. (Although I have done it for others) I DRIVE my cars. This one, unfortunately, had already been attacked by a hobby "restorer". I knew all along I wanted something reliable, so the mechanical repairs were a must. However, like anything else, you can over-do it. Take the front end. Instead of just jumping on a complete front end rebuild kit, I addressed it like any other driver. In that sense, the practical sense, it needs and idler arm bushing, a pair of lower control arm bushings, and, the uppers if i feel like messing with them. But that's it. I am going for reliable, not new. I think it's kinda cool to have ball joints with the "D-P-D-C" logo on them. If I had my way, the previous owner would have never touched the body, and I could have lived with a buffing of the original paint, and interior clean-up. But, as it is, it will be a nicer car, but not so nice that I am worried about leaving it in a public parking space. However, I will be welding in repair panels, both stamped and fabricated, not following the p.o. method of bondo on top of aluminum foil. I have to restrain myself, though. It's hard to find just the right balance of to do and not to do. I think I am doing a pretty good job keeping it in check. They are only original once. | ||
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| oldwood |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | Well, it had to happen sooner or later... I found the rust.... Under that beautiful, original rubber floor mat. Lots of surface rust, but not really chunky, and no holes. I will take out the front seat, and finish pulling up the mats to get a better look. Regardless, it's not bad enough to warrant metal replacement, so I think it's gonna just get a coat of POR 15, and keep on kicking... that's what the plan was from the start anyway. Other than that, I have been plugging away, bagging and tagging trim bits and pieces. Got all the inner door panels off, and the passenger rear is the only one with an issue, but still not that big of a deal. Basically, just still moving along in the forward direction here. I find myself wanting to sit behind the wheel and make little motor noises... I need to get this thing done... | ||
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| BarnFind57 |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | As she sits now... and pics of the naked doors... (009b.jpg) (004b.jpg) (013b.jpg) (015b.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 009b.jpg (226KB - 132 downloads) 004b.jpg (176KB - 222 downloads) 013b.jpg (210KB - 140 downloads) 015b.jpg (222KB - 130 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | And, one last pic... this is where I pulled the stainless trim off, exposing the original color combo... I like it more every time I see it. Gonna have to spend a little time at the paint supply store to find the right colors.... (006b.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 006b.jpg (253KB - 140 downloads) | ||
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| 57plymouth |
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Expert Posts: 3577 Location: Blythewood, SC | |||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | ^^^ Evidently the car got tagged along that side years ago... That door and passenger front fender (which never even had the holes drilled for the V8 emblem) were replaced at some time, both were white on the back side. The front door seems to be original and just fine.... Also, some craptacular repair to the right side rear quarter... Nothing too terrible, but i can see where something has been done a long time ago. The rear section of the rocker on that side from roughly the b-pillar rearward is pretty haggard and rusty. I'll get Some fresh metal welded in and a little straightening.... Shouldn't be too bad. | ||
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| oldwood |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | oldwood - 2012-02-10 4:01 PM I know what ya mean on the rubber floor covering. I didn't want to remove mine with 20k miles but I couldn't stand not knowing what was going on under the mat. I'm glad I pulled it as I found two small holes. So I have no option but to go back with carpet. The marble comment was a joke. Lookin good!!! Yeah... It looked really pretty from underneath.... but gravity and water.... well, one side it falls, the other it doesn't... I hope to be really careful with the mat, because it is in VERY nice shape, just some hardening around the lead edge, the rest is fairly flexible. And, yeah... I caught the marble comment... now, can you tell me where my quote comes from? | ||
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| oldwood |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | oldwood - 2012-02-10 4:34 PM I googled it. Belushi died way before his time. I'd pork Ms. Wormer. Flounder said it. Ahhhh..... more than just an answer.... an entertaining answer.... I knew I liked you... | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | Been kinda quiet up in here... been really busy so I haven't had much time to mess with the big car... But, I did have me a nice little breakthrough in the paint department. After working for a while with my guy at the local paint shop, i think he's got me something pretty close after crossing numbers, playing with the formulas.... I shot a quick and dirty paint coat on a piece of steel, and both of the colors look good. The first pic is with an old Acme paint chip sheet. The second is the new painted metal with the wet-sanded and buffed fuel door. In both cases, looks close enough for me. Looks like I don't have to paint her red and white afterall.... Edited by BarnFind57 2012-02-25 9:04 PM (015b.jpg) (019b.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 015b.jpg (139KB - 122 downloads) 019b.jpg (204KB - 134 downloads) | ||
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| LookForward |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | STORY TIME So, the search for the obsolete rear U-joint had a happy ending today.... I paid a visit to Chattanooga Driveline today. I had with me the required parts: New U-joint, The old rear end yoke, and for giggles, I laid the original joint on the counter as well. I was explaining what I wanted to do, and the guy behind the counter just asks what it's for, I tell him a '57 Plymouth. He gets a funny look on his face and asks me, "So which one do you want... the yoke to convert it, or just the joint?"... I stood there and was like..."Whu???" He laughs a little and says that he thinks he still has one on the shelf. I told him if he did he was my new best friend for the day. He asks me to hold on a sec, and goes to the back.... and comes out a minute or two later holding something wrapped in tattered cosmoline paper. He unfolds the paper, still in disbelief, I am now seeing the two bearings with the tabs on them, and that shape that I know all too well now that fits into the yoke.... about then I notice that he had come back out, with not one, but two tattered little wrappings.... I thought I was gonna squeal like a girl for a sec. He messed with them just a little to get the bearing caps to turn... the grease had hardened from decades of sitting on the shelf.... I asked the question. "How much do you want for them?" He laughs again, saying that they aren't even in his system anymore. He just happened to remember asking one of the older guys in the shop what on earth these funny looking joints were for, and him being told they fit some "Old Chrysler Stuff"... he says if I want to pay cash, with no receipt, he'll take $20 each for them. I nearly broke my wrist trying to get my wallet out of my pocket.... So, now I gots one to put on the car, and the other will be tucked away in my toolbox in case I need it in another 55 years. Today was a good day. | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | proof from the shopping trip,... they even had the new clips and grease fittings wrapped in the paper with them. (001b.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 001b.jpg (268KB - 116 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | 57plymouth - 2012-02-29 5:24 PM I know you have them, but I'm pretty sure you could have just bought a set of u joint straps from the Help section and used normal joints. I was actually close to do doing just that.... My biggest concern was how little actual contact area there would actually be. The yoke has a slight curve cut-out for the seating of the joint bearing cap, then slots cut out that locate the tabs. So, the actual "seated" depth of the bearing cap mould have been less than 1/8"... that seemed a bit to iffy for me. That's why I decided to just slap another yoke on it and go... then, this little turn, which was actually cheaper than a yoke... eh, it's all good.... | ||
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 Expert Posts: 3951 Location: Bama | BarnFind57 - 2012-02-29 8:56 PM 57plymouth - 2012-02-29 5:24 PM I know you have them, but I'm pretty sure you could have just bought a set of u joint straps from the Help section and used normal joints. I was actually close to do doing just that.... My biggest concern was how little actual contact area there would actually be. The yoke has a slight curve cut-out for the seating of the joint bearing cap, then slots cut out that locate the tabs. So, the actual "seated" depth of the bearing cap mould have been less than 1/8"... that seemed a bit to iffy for me. That's why I decided to just slap another yoke on it and go... then, this little turn, which was actually cheaper than a yoke... eh, it's all good.... You should not take much advice from the "U Joint Breaker". He was famous in 07. | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 6203 Location: Big pimpin' | lawrence - 2012-03-01 7:28 PM You should not take much advice from the "U Joint Breaker". He was famous in 07. | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | SHE'S ALIVE!!!! And, might I add, runs beautifully.... | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | Matthew Keij - 2012-03-07 3:00 PM Nice! No movies??? Did you got the fuel filter gasket? No photographic or video proof yet... I finally got it going at the tail end of my lunch break. I will try and get something posted up soon, though. As for the gasket, not yet, they should be at my house today or tomorrow.... I made a temporary out of an oil filler cap seal..... Don't judge me.... | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | Alright, this may take a little bit... lots of pics to update.... I've been busy... First, tackled the all-too-much-freakin'-fun NOS original style solid driveshaft boot... just so I could say I tried.... came out nice... Observe, the step-by-step: (004b.jpg) (005b.jpg) (007b.jpg) (008b.jpg) (009b.jpg) (012b.jpg) (014b.jpg) (016b.jpg) (022b.jpg) (023b.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 004b.jpg (189KB - 122 downloads) 005b.jpg (170KB - 214 downloads) 007b.jpg (207KB - 129 downloads) 008b.jpg (200KB - 152 downloads) 009b.jpg (186KB - 119 downloads) 012b.jpg (199KB - 138 downloads) 014b.jpg (207KB - 114 downloads) 016b.jpg (203KB - 125 downloads) 022b.jpg (190KB - 115 downloads) 023b.jpg (157KB - 125 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | And then, had to disassemble the NOS U-joint to remove the dried up grease, flushed them out, cleaned the needle bearings, re-packed, and installe the joint to the driveshsaft.... (030b.jpg) (037b.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 030b.jpg (215KB - 120 downloads) 037b.jpg (182KB - 137 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | Then, I checked out the spray can of touch-up paint the guy mixed up for me actually on the car..... once again, the test looked pretty close to the super clean firewall paint, so I used it to cover the areas where the paint had peeled away from the sealant, and that disappears pretty well into the original paint. Did a really nice job of cleaning that up.... (027b.jpg) (029b.jpg) (028b.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 027b.jpg (145KB - 125 downloads) 029b.jpg (236KB - 126 downloads) 028b.jpg (246KB - 131 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | Then, as I mentioned before, I made me a temporary gasket for the glass bowl filter, but the carb seals were shot, spitting the gas out of the carb instead of into the engine. Also, once I pulled the body apart, i realized it was full of trash. Got me a rebuild kit from Napa, built that in the garage at home last night. One more thing that's fresh for the old gal... (052b.jpg) (053b.jpg) (062b.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 052b.jpg (213KB - 124 downloads) 053b.jpg (210KB - 127 downloads) 062b.jpg (182KB - 122 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | And then, the final moment of triumph today... It was giving me a fit trying to get it started... I was getting popping, attempts at nuthin'... right up until the point I realized my dumb mistake. I had timed it off the wrong wire....  Realizing my mistake ( I had looked at what I thought was the same front-to rear order in the clip on the valve cover, not noticing that I had exchanged the position of the wires for the #1 and #3 cylinders....), I did the ancient method of pull one wire, then pull the next one and put it in the first hole, and so on, all the way around. Then, she came to life. Still needing to actually set the timing, adjust the valves (I had left them a little loose since I ground them and the seats), play with the carb adjustment a little, that sort of stuff... Other than the clacking of those loose valves, the engine runs great already, and very little smoke after letting run for a little while. It's been a busy, but productive week.... | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 Location: Signal Mountain, TN | The video proof.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwhDM8pboaY&feature=youtu.be | ||
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