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B/G 61
Posted 2009-05-17 1:51 PM (#174521)
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55CRL
Posted 2009-05-17 2:47 PM (#174530 - in reply to #174521)
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Posted 2009-05-17 9:43 PM (#174574 - in reply to #174521)
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B/G 61
Posted 2009-05-17 10:42 PM (#174586 - in reply to #174521)
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B/G 61
Posted 2009-05-17 11:18 PM (#174592 - in reply to #174521)
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55CRL
Posted 2009-05-21 10:05 AM (#174977 - in reply to #174521)
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polara61
Posted 2009-05-21 11:13 AM (#174982 - in reply to #174521)
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B/G 61
Posted 2009-05-21 4:39 PM (#175006 - in reply to #174521)
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B/G 61
Posted 2009-05-21 4:54 PM (#175007 - in reply to #174521)
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d500neil
Posted 2009-05-21 4:55 PM (#175008 - in reply to #175006)
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B/G 61
Posted 2009-05-21 5:22 PM (#175011 - in reply to #174521)
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57burb
Posted 2009-05-21 6:51 PM (#175023 - in reply to #174521)
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Location: DFW, TX		What's with the cryptic posts and photos? Just tell your story and show off the car man!!

I know where a SOLID '61 Dodge 2dr sedan was in a yard in Seguin, TX a few years back. It may have been crushed by now...
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B/G 61
Posted 2009-05-21 8:02 PM (#175029 - in reply to #174521)
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Location: Parts Unknown		Well, I am not yet finished with the car. I can say that I have been viewing this web site for years as a guest. I have always loved the FL cars and, since I was a little kid looking through my dad's old magazines etc. been in LOVE with the '61 Dodges. (the handful of pics there are of them!) I do not really know any of you guys, but I think some will like and some won't. That's the beauty of this hobby/life. I don't want to come across as an A** right out of the gate but I would like to beat NEIL to the punch and let you all know the car has been repainted !!! The "PLAN" was to have the car completed by June however I am waiting on a certain wheel manufacturer to send me my wheels . . . Oh, and get the motor and trans in !!!!
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55CRL
Posted 2009-05-22 2:43 AM (#175058 - in reply to #174521)
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B/G 61
Posted 2009-05-22 9:01 AM (#175071 - in reply to #174521)
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B/G 61
Posted 2009-05-22 9:21 AM (#175072 - in reply to #174521)
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B/G 61
Posted 2009-05-22 9:22 AM (#175073 - in reply to #174521)
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B/G 61
Posted 2009-05-22 9:26 AM (#175074 - in reply to #174521)
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57burb
Posted 2009-05-22 10:50 AM (#175085 - in reply to #174521)
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55CRL
Posted 2009-05-22 11:36 AM (#175089 - in reply to #174521)
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Location: Magra, Sweden		Congratulations B/G 61, it's a real beauty and doesn't seem to need more than tender loving care.
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polara61
Posted 2009-05-22 1:38 PM (#175102 - in reply to #174521)
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Location: Bräcke,Sweden		Great looking car.
If you like to see some more pics of 61 Dodge´s (and all the other FL cars ) there is a Swedish website with lots of pics.
http://www.mopar55-61.se/
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B/G 61
Posted 2009-06-07 2:53 PM (#177112 - in reply to #174521)
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Location: Parts Unknown		SLOWLY COMING SOON . . . Stockton Wheels (happy with the wheels, NOT HAPPY with dealing with the hr. long calls on hold and "promised" delivery dates) --and some U.S. Royal wide whites - Now on to the motor/trans set up . . .



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d500neil
Posted 2009-06-07 4:58 PM (#177132 - in reply to #177112)
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Jessica
Posted 2009-06-07 6:19 PM (#177141 - in reply to #174521)
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Posted 2009-06-07 7:41 PM (#177150 - in reply to #174521)
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B/G 61
Posted 2009-06-08 3:43 PM (#177241 - in reply to #174521)
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Location: Parts Unknown		Here's some bad cell phone pics of the rear tires - My due date of June 1st has come and gone So now we have a new target finish date of July 1st . . .



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d500neil
Posted 2009-06-08 4:12 PM (#177246 - in reply to #177241)
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B/G 61
Posted 2009-06-08 9:19 PM (#177302 - in reply to #174521)
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d500neil
Posted 2009-06-08 9:53 PM (#177306 - in reply to #177302)
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B/G 61
Posted 2009-06-13 5:43 PM (#177910 - in reply to #174521)
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Location: Parts Unknown		O.K. - here's where I start gettin the hate mail . . . Anyway, SLOW progress, but I think it's gonna work . . .



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d500neil
Posted 2009-06-13 5:56 PM (#177913 - in reply to #177910)
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B/G 61
Posted 2009-06-13 6:17 PM (#177916 - in reply to #174521)
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MOPAR-TO-YA
Posted 2009-06-14 3:12 AM (#177949 - in reply to #174521)
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Posted 2009-06-14 6:29 AM (#177955 - in reply to #174521)
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Posted 2009-06-14 2:17 PM (#177971 - in reply to #174521)
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-06-15 10:37 AM (#178001 - in reply to #177971)
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wbower3
Posted 2009-06-15 10:42 AM (#178004 - in reply to #174521)
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Walter passed away on Jul 29, 2014. We will miss you, Walt!

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Location: Heaven Above (Formerly Oklahoma City,OK)		Probably something to do with weight transfer when coming off the Line. Also, it just looks "COOL".

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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-06-15 10:45 AM (#178006 - in reply to #178001)
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Location: Parts Unknown		I remember many street - strip cars running around in the early 60's with this set up, but never have really known the technical reason for doing it. Since the torsion bar set up is known for being pretty good, changing it over to a straight axle must have some solid incentive for going to all that trouble.
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B/G 61
Posted 2009-06-15 11:22 AM (#178008 - in reply to #174521)
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Location: Parts Unknown		It's pretty much the idea of weight transfer aiding in traction - the Ram Chargers (note the two words, that's how it was originally) High and Mighty got the ball rolling on this idea - it also takes some weight off the front (more with cars that have K-members)




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dukeboy
Posted 2009-06-15 12:32 PM (#178017 - in reply to #178001)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2009-06-15 10:37 AM

What is the advantage of a straight axle ?


That would be like me asking you "What's the advantage of a '58 DeSoto"......Big, 'ol, honkin' GASSER look.....Straight axle, big and littles, fenderwell hedders, and LOT'S noise....Also, you ever seen the sky when you leave the line? Well, if you've ever set one down after all that "Skying the tires", you'll under stand why you need that front end up high.....

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Posted 2009-06-16 10:07 PM (#178267 - in reply to #174521)
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B/G 61
Posted 2009-06-16 10:26 PM (#178271 - in reply to #174521)
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Location: Parts Unknown		Don't get me wrong, I could lose a few lbs. but B/G was not intended to stand for BIG GUT !!! AND, this car will NOT be an auto trans car. AND (hope you are all sitting down) it will be a three speed trans car ! You know what they say ; "If you don't have a clutch, you don't have much!"
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-06-17 7:53 PM (#178324 - in reply to #178017)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2009-06-15 10:37 AM

What is the advantage of a straight axle ?


That would be like me asking you "What's the advantage of a '58 DeSoto"......Big, 'ol, honkin' GASSER look.....Straight axle, big and littles, fenderwell hedders, and LOT'S noise....Also, you ever seen the sky when you leave the line? Well, if you've ever set one down after all that "Skying the tires", you'll under stand why you need that front end up high.....


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Thanks for the smart-axx non-answer. Some guys around here try to share their knowledge and be helpful when others ask straight up questions. If you have done all this "skying the tires" like you mention, you are no doubt NASA certified and even more awesome than you let on. But I was just asking a simple question.

Somehow, I am betting there is some real science to why a guy would go to such lengths and if anyone would care to get into the nuts and bolts of it, I'd love to learn more. Thanks.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-06-17 7:56 PM (#178325 - in reply to #178324)
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While I may not get to it real soon, when I unpile the DeSoto and organize the finish strategy (probably this winter), I should have an extra 3-speed floor shifter - in case that is the route you are thinking of going. Somewhere in the pile I have the complete unit, right down to the floor hump and linkage.
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B/G 61
Posted 2009-06-17 9:26 PM (#178338 - in reply to #174521)
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That is very nice of you. I may want to talk later once you dig that stuff out. I am putting a Borg-Warner T 85 in it. I have an original Hurst 3 speed shifter and linkage made for the T 85 so I'm hoping it falls together nicely. Im WAY behind schedule on this project but . . . I guess I can't complain too much.
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Posted 2009-06-17 9:27 PM (#178339 - in reply to #178324)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2009-06-17 7:53 PM

dukeboy - 2009-06-16 9:32 AM

Doctor DeSoto - 2009-06-15 10:37 AM

What is the advantage of a straight axle ?


That would be like me asking you "What's the advantage of a '58 DeSoto"......Big, 'ol, honkin' GASSER look.....Straight axle, big and littles, fenderwell hedders, and LOT'S noise....Also, you ever seen the sky when you leave the line? Well, if you've ever set one down after all that "Skying the tires", you'll under stand why you need that front end up high.....


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Thanks for the smart-axx non-answer. Some guys around here try to share their knowledge and be helpful when others ask straight up questions. If you have done all this "skying the tires" like you mention, you are no doubt NASA certified and even more awesome than you let on. But I was just asking a simple question.

Somehow, I am betting there is some real science to why a guy would go to such lengths and if anyone would care to get into the nuts and bolts of it, I'd love to learn more. Thanks.


Lemme hit you with what you hit me with there Doc..."You really as high strung as you seem?" "You need to lighten up a bit guy"...
I put my two cents in, you didn't like it, moving on....

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Posted 2009-06-17 9:35 PM (#178340 - in reply to #178001)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2009-06-15 10:37 AM

What is the advantage of a straight axle ?
I have wondered the same thing myself, for a fast car you want to distribute weight to the rear wheels for better traction on takeoff, correct? For maximum effect you want to avoid lifting the nose of the car, right or not? What about all the drag cars I see or have seen with the rear end jacked up and the front end low so that the car essentially sits down level on the rear when it takes off, what is the differance in these two styles? Are they for differen't types of racing, different theories or what?
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Posted 2009-06-17 10:32 PM (#178355 - in reply to #174521)
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Location: Parts Unknown		A huge problem with hot cars back in the day was there were no really good tires. The slicks/cheater slicks were better than street tires, but not by much.
So, the Ram Chargers found that raising the heighth of the car (center of gravity) and the motor up in the frame, this got more weight transfer to the rear of the car on launch. This worked well however, people started making CRAZY high (and dangerous) machines. NHRA put a limit of 24" from the crank to the ground. SO, raising the front of the car does the same thing, transferring weight to the rear on launch in an effort to gain some traction. As tire technology improved, the nose-up attitude disappeared into history. Also, there was this wind resistance theory . . . Blah, Blah, Blah . . .
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Posted 2009-06-17 11:52 PM (#178361 - in reply to #178355)
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wbower3
Posted 2009-06-18 4:22 PM (#178434 - in reply to #174521)
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Walter passed away on Jul 29, 2014. We will miss you, Walt!

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Location: Heaven Above (Formerly Oklahoma City,OK)		In both cases, high rear/low front, or straight axle/high front, the idea is the same, weight transfer when the clutch is dropped and the torque hits the rearend.
The low nose comes up as the weight is 'transferred' by the lifting action of the rearwheels gripping the surface. Watch the Sunday NHRA Draag Races on the tube. The last thing the tire man does is to check the wheelie bar's distance from the surface. The torque will still lift the front wheeels of those Top Fuel Dragsters, even with thier 20+ foot length. (I'm gonna go take my nap now, it's been a long day for an old man)

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