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Evil_Fury
Posted 2009-04-12 7:40 PM (#170252)
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2009-04-12 10:05 PM (#170277 - in reply to #170252)
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Posted 2009-04-13 7:43 AM (#170311 - in reply to #170277)
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Posted 2009-04-13 7:49 AM (#170313 - in reply to #170277)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2009-04-12 10:05 PM

Don't forget the Marilyn Monroe blow-up doll !


Ha!! I will order one today!! ha..
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Posted 2009-04-13 9:58 PM (#170425 - in reply to #170311)
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Next is a DeSoto....


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I have never had a use for the car couch, but I do have a set of fins off a parts car that I have considered making one all pretty and mounting it on a wall as if someone backed through it from the other side. The other option was to hang real fins on those truncated wagon quarters if I ever found a good wagon project.

.... as if I need another project !
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Posted 2009-04-14 7:46 AM (#170453 - in reply to #170252)
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Posted 2009-04-14 9:33 AM (#170461 - in reply to #170252)
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No bandwagon hitcher here - those things are just flat out fugly to me, in every sense.
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Posted 2009-04-14 10:51 AM (#170471 - in reply to #170461)
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I have a friend that thinks Coca Cola "stuff" is worthy of wallpapering his life with. I don't just mean some vintage ads, signs, and bottles either. I could take a Sharpie marker and write "Coke" on a piece of plywood and he would not want to throw it out. Every reproduction Chinese piece of junk that some idiot stenciled "Coca Cola" covers every square inch of his property. From the fake street sign out front that reads "Coca Cola Drive" to the 394 straw dispensers gathering dust in the windows, toy trucks, stuffed animals, fantasy cardboard cutouts of Marilyn Monroe holding a Coke, key fobs, coolers, koozies, light fixtures, switch plates, furniture, appliances, he even painted that wavy stripe along the walls ..... it becomes a bit of ..... how do I say this nicely ? ...... over-saturation ?

I have seen some nicely done car couches over the years. I have seen far too many in the over-saturated environment of car guys that are just too bent on making everything in their lives be car oriented ..... that is my jones with car couches.

As if being into these cars doesn't dominate a large enough chunk of one's property and life in just having the car alone, to take it to the "wallpaper" level where EVERYTHING you are about is cars makes Jack a dull boy ..... or gives the appearance of Ray Babbitt .... (uh-oh, .... ten minutes to Wapner!) ... sort of obsessive/compulsive mentality. I am square peg enough in everything I do in life that my poor wife has to do too much explaining as it is. There has to be a balance or the world comes to see us as nothing but Star Trek nerds who have lots of really nice action figure dolls and know all the details of every show, but have never seen a vagina, you know ???

A single, really sweet ORIGINAL 1930's Coke Straw dispenser in depression glass green sitting on the kitchen table might be a nice period decor touch. Or a vintage sign. Or a series of framed ads down a hallway ..... ? But with stacks of fenders and boxes of tail lights, barrels of sidetrim and jacks and stands and drawers upon drawers of tools, books and manuals, vintage ads, welding equipment, paint gear, sand blasting stuff, jeeze! I want to come out of the shop and yard and escape the car junk .... not come inside and sit on some more of it !

Honestly, .... I prefer it when that fact I have all these cars comes as a total surprise to people. No Nascar bumper stickers, no hats, no "parking for _________ only" signs, just a big "WOW!" when you open the door and there sits the DeSoto.

To each their own. Like I said, I have seen some nice couches over the years. It takes a lot to make a nice one. I just feel the balance is already excessive in my life with just the cars and all the stuff it takes to keep them nice.
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Posted 2009-04-14 12:45 PM (#170485 - in reply to #170471)
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Location: DFW, TX		It was the thing to do in the 80s, when people were having "poodle skirt and Buddy Holly glasses" '50s flashbacks, but now they're a bit gaudy and a reminder that a car died to facilitate it.

Sure it's not the end of the world, but it's like having a gigantic endangered Great White shark sent to a taxidermist and mounted over your TV.

For me - I'd prefer a nice couch and a complete car. To each their own, do a good job on it.
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Posted 2009-04-14 1:24 PM (#170488 - in reply to #170485)
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Location: Big pimpin'		If you looked at the car in question, it had already "Died".... I was told not to post it here for this very reason, but, without folks like Chuck and myself, this site would be boring as hell with all the older guys and purists....




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Posted 2009-04-14 3:10 PM (#170502 - in reply to #170488)
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dukeboy - 2009-04-14 1:24 PM

I was told not to post it here for this very reason, but, without folks like Chuck and myself, this site would be boring as hell with all the older guys and purists....




ROFL.

That's funny right there. I don't care who you are.
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Posted 2009-04-14 3:20 PM (#170505 - in reply to #170502)
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Posted 2009-04-14 3:50 PM (#170506 - in reply to #170505)
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Posted 2009-04-14 6:14 PM (#170519 - in reply to #170488)
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without folks like Chuck and myself, this site would be boring as hell with all the older guys and purists....

Chaney, a lot of young men would now consider you an old fart.  A "has been".  If we are lucky, we can grow to be "old".  If not, you get chucked into a box and forgot about.  Either way, you WILL get chucked into a box and forgot about.  Same as me.

 I'll probably be killed and cremated:wince:

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Posted 2009-04-14 8:15 PM (#170532 - in reply to #170519)
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Location: Parts Unknown		I can hardly get on some soapbox and preach about cutting up cars. Doubtful that many here have sent more FL cars to the Great Beyond than I have. I regret it, but back in the day .....

So, I can see the logic in making "something" out of cars and parts ..... been there, done that. I have boxes of tail lights and rows of fenders, heater boxes hung on cable .... you name it. All sh-t taken from cars that might otherwise be here today if someone (or many someones) had not made the decision to take parts and secure that car's future as a parts car.

I am not going to crap on someone's desire to have a car-couch. It ain't my bag or way I want to express my car interest. But to each their own. Have fun.
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Posted 2009-04-14 10:07 PM (#170556 - in reply to #170505)
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57burb - 2009-04-14 3:20 PM

Chaney, a carbureted 440 with electronic ignition doesn't exactly make you "cutting edge"... :bleh:


You obviously missed my point...By "Older guys" and "Purists", they would be the kind to consider it "Rude" to even post a thread on a car couch..Chuck and I would post it anyway, just to get a reaction...

"Cutting edge" cost big dollars, something I've never had or ever will looks like...Gimme the huge money that it cost for some "Cutting Edge" stuff like superchargers, high tech lap top controlled fuel inj. systems and I'll be the first to do it....Till then, a carb'd 440 has served me very well....

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Posted 2009-04-14 10:11 PM (#170557 - in reply to #170519)
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lawrence - 2009-04-14 6:14 PM

without folks like Chuck and myself, this site would be boring as hell with all the older guys and purists....

Chaney, a lot of young men would now consider you an old fart.  A "has been".  If we are lucky, we can grow to be "old".  If not, you get chucked into a box and forgot about.  Either way, you WILL get chucked into a box and forgot about.  Same as me.

 I'll probably be killed and cremated:wince:




I'm gonna stay 17 for the rest of my life...Just like my buddy Arnold here in Va..He's pushing 67 Y/O, and you would think he's not a day over 27....
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Posted 2009-04-15 7:39 AM (#170593 - in reply to #170252)
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Location: Adelaide Plains, South Australia.		I'm with most of you fellows on this one. I like the tastefully placed enamel sign or old petrol bowser, but a bit too much automobilia can look a little tacky and cluttered.
I have a few old enamel signs under my pergola, and the kids have a few old pedal cars to belt around on, but past that, all my stuff stays in the shed.
Much prefer the barbeque, a few potted plants and space to relax. If I want my car fix, it's off to the shed.
I have seen a few car fronts turned into barbeques, and like the car couches, I'm not real impressed by them.
If anything, I do like what some people have done in gardens and made an old car body into a feature. A bit of a rockery, a few ferns, and let a creeper make the car blend into the environment.
This works particularly well with 1930's and 40's cars, beyond restoration or rodding.
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Posted 2009-04-15 7:46 AM (#170594 - in reply to #170593)
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Posted 2009-04-15 9:05 AM (#170599 - in reply to #170485)
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57burb - 2009-04-14 12:45 PM

It was the thing to do in the 80s, when people were having "poodle skirt and Buddy Holly glasses" '50s flashbacks, but now they're a bit gaudy and a reminder that a car died to facilitate it.

Sure it's not the end of the world, but it's like having a gigantic endangered Great White shark sent to a taxidermist and mounted over your TV.


Wow you thought that car could be restored without killing another car to bring it back??? If anything that car was already in the grave..so at least we saved a piece and Chaney will bring it back to life again. IMO that is better than it being crushed and forgotten. I may not be old enough to form an opion about a couch being gaudy from back in the day but I have always wanted a car couch but I never had the funds to buy one... So this couch project is a very positive thing for me. I'm only 37 but I see a new generation starting to take an intrest in some cars that IMO look like the designer should have been shot for ever thinking that a particular design looked good. So I just smile and encourge the new generation to fulfill their dreams of owning that car or project.

Thanks for everyones opinion and I know Chaney will do his best to bring a piece of this dead car back to life. Stay tuned..

Chuck
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Posted 2009-04-15 9:31 AM (#170604 - in reply to #170252)
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Posted 2009-04-15 10:31 AM (#170611 - in reply to #170599)
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EVIL_FURY - 2009-04-16 6:05 AM

I see a new generation starting to take an intrest in some cars that IMO look like the designer should have been shot for ever thinking ..... Chuck
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I just love those Taurus' (or is a multiple quantity called "Taurii" ?) with the oval round window and the "insect" front end. Tail lights look like a baboon's azz. Going with a previous post, I could make a BBQ out of the insect face and a couch out of the baboon's azz ! I could then toss the remainder in the yard to just look good with that hideous oval window and use it as a planter or a centerpiece for a yard display of appliances and urine soaked mattresses. Good taste never looked so fine.
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Posted 2009-04-15 10:35 AM (#170612 - in reply to #170252)
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Posted 2009-04-15 11:11 AM (#170616 - in reply to #170612)
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Posted 2009-04-15 11:11 AM (#170617 - in reply to #170252)
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Posted 2009-04-15 11:54 AM (#170619 - in reply to #170616)
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57burb - 2009-04-15 8:11 AM

Man you guys are old as hell... I'm 31. :bleh:


Bite your tongue there, kiddo - at 37, I'm a card carrying Generation X'er myself.

That said, I can't help coming back to the fact that Adriana wasn't even walking or talking when I snagged my first set of fins.....

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Posted 2009-04-15 12:52 PM (#170622 - in reply to #170604)
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Wow , been away for a while , I see things AIN T changed much . Glad to see it wasn t me . Opinions are great , ain t they ?


Yes Charlie, it would seem that way....kinda missed 'ya round here. It would seem that the younger than I croud is the most verbal...While I'm 36, I too never had the money to afford, OR the extra car to afford a couch....I still think they are what they are meant to be a novelty...A conversation piece..While I personally can't see myself cruising in a 4dr anything F. Look, I'm certainly not gonna make fun of the ones that are.....
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Posted 2009-04-15 3:23 PM (#170628 - in reply to #170252)
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Posted 2009-04-16 9:48 AM (#170730 - in reply to #170252)
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Posted 2009-04-16 5:38 PM (#170784 - in reply to #170730)
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narleycharlie - 2009-04-16 9:48 AM

I still drive it like I stole it.


Aint that the truth... I've seen you drive. LOL!!
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Posted 2009-04-21 6:07 PM (#171340 - in reply to #170252)
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Chuck all your trim came in From Big M today...THANKS John!

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Posted 2009-04-21 7:41 PM (#171347 - in reply to #170252)
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Posted 2009-04-21 7:49 PM (#171349 - in reply to #171340)
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Got the up-sweeps made today..will post picks tonight of the up-sweeps....The "Hack" is at it again.......

Chuck all your trim came in From Big M today...THANKS John!



You're more than welcome Chaney! ---John
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Posted 2009-04-21 7:52 PM (#171351 - in reply to #171340)
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dukeboy - 2009-04-21 6:07 PM....The "Hack" is at it again.......

Hack away then.

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Posted 2009-04-21 8:20 PM (#171354 - in reply to #170252)
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Posted 2009-04-21 8:29 PM (#171360 - in reply to #170252)
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Posted 2009-04-21 8:30 PM (#171362 - in reply to #171360)
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Posted 2009-04-21 9:55 PM (#171377 - in reply to #170252)
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Posted 2009-04-21 10:12 PM (#171378 - in reply to #171360)
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lawrence - 2009-04-21 8:29 PM

Why not just make a 44 chair?



WTF is a "44 chair"? Is that something only found in Bamalama?

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Posted 2009-04-22 12:59 PM (#171423 - in reply to #171378)
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Posted 2009-04-25 7:08 AM (#171787 - in reply to #170252)
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Posted 2009-04-28 12:39 AM (#172084 - in reply to #170252)
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Posted 2009-04-28 1:47 AM (#172091 - in reply to #171787)
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EVIL_FURY - 2009-04-25 7:08 AM

Hey Chaney those lower quarters are headed your way. :)


Good news Chuck...

Arnie, Thanks for posting the pics...it is a nice one...Gives me some more ideas....
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Posted 2009-04-29 6:55 AM (#172203 - in reply to #170252)
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Posted 2009-04-29 12:04 PM (#172223 - in reply to #170252)
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Posted 2009-04-29 4:24 PM (#172252 - in reply to #172223)
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For anyone who has not yet had the pleasure of trying to sit in one of these beauties, the primary problem is
typically that the lower seat cushion does not extend out enough, so that your legs are forced to assume a
position where they are sort of draped out over the bumper, at about a 30-degree angle. Very awkward.

Then, the seat backs are typically straight-upright, so that you can't get comfortable, there, either.

As the seats are very narrow, two people really can not sit together on the thing, and there typically are not any
arm rests on them, either, and, they're too short for an average-height person to try to lie across the thing.

Other than that, they ARE cute to look at, with their colors, and 'working' tail lights.





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Posted 2009-04-29 6:03 PM (#172265 - in reply to #170252)
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One thing Chuck wanted was to address ALL of the things you just mentioned...

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Posted 2009-04-29 7:09 PM (#172269 - in reply to #170252)
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Hi I am also doing a couch , as Duke said I too is making it so two can sit and will have the back tilted to sit comfortable ,, here is some pictures, Tim



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Posted 2009-04-29 7:13 PM (#172270 - in reply to #172269)
Subject: RE: 1958 Plymouth couch build...


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d500neil
Posted 2009-04-29 7:42 PM (#172271 - in reply to #172270)
Subject: Re: 1958 Plymouth couch build...



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Location: bishop, ca		Tim, one thing that you might consider doing, is designing the lower cushion so as to be movable inward/outward,
underneath the seat back, about 6-8", or so.

That way, the cushion could be slid-back, so that its leading edge would reside behind the bumper, for appearance sake,
when the seat is not being used (which will be often, probably, after the novelty wears off).

When someone wants to sit in it, the cushion gets extended out, so that the sitters' knees align with the edge of the cushion,
and with the edge of the bumper.

As the seat back will recline, there probably is a lot of room underneath the seat back to accommodate the movement of
the lower cushion.

If you are really interested in a custom-look, the lower edge of the lower cushion could be shaped to resemble the contour
OF the upper surface of the bumper.

Another TRICK-item would be to incorporate a seat adjuster into the upper and(?) lower cushion(s)
so that a customized seat position could be obtained!

You'd be building, essentially, a car body AROUND an adjustable seat mechanism; in that regard,
the WIDTH of the body and bumper could be stretched to accommodate the seat.











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