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Location: Iowa | Wow, what I car! I can't say I recall ever having seen a Regal Lancer. They are both beautiful, the stock one as well as the customized one, each in their own way. I am with the one poster who said it is his favorite FL car.....mine too, now!
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Location: The Mile High City | Looks like the Ruffalo car is up for sale again as of March 2, 2010!
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Location: bishop, ca | $70K seems like an OK price for this car, but, it's not in Original condition and not particularly
heavily optioned.
Somebody should turn-around those Shield emblems.
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Location: The Mile High City | I noticed that the current owner, who I think is a site member, is not asking for a profit. This is a spectacular car - but you are right Neil, not only not original (which doesn't bother me too much) but not fully correct either. I had an opportunity to switch those shields when I rode up on stage in the car at Barrett-Jackson in 2008, but alas - modesty forbid it! Ah, but for a pair of needle-nose pliers and a small tin snip - the job would have been done!
I really should call this the Hallaran / Alexander car, since they owned it when it appeared in Collectible Automobile (cover car, no less) |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Is that OEM grass / pine needles in the carpet under the brake peddle ? 
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Location: The Mile High City | Yeah, I noticed that too  Oh, well - we have seen a lot worse in these for sale photos - remember that Imperial convertible? Pop cans, dirty diapers, chewing gum wrapers, 1979 Sears catalog, cassette tapes... $150,000 to start. Just out of respect for how much money that is, I would have shampoo'd the carpets and armor-all'd all the interior surfaces! A few pine needles I can handle. |
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Location: Plymouth Spaceport | How many Regals were made? |
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Location: bishop, ca | 1163---not many were station wagon Super D500's, however.
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Location: Parts Unknown | How many were convertible Super D-500 wagons ???? 
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Location: bishop, ca | ..only those that went under lo-bridges! |
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Location: Utah | I found one of these, although I haven't actually seen it yet. Supposedly it has under 70k miles but some rust. What is a reasonable price to pay for a fixer-upper. It is running. |
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Location: Montreal, Canada | circlerounder - 2010-06-10 8:17 PM
I found one of these, although I haven't actually seen it yet. Supposedly it has under 70k miles but some rust. What is a reasonable price to pay for a fixer-upper. It is running.
I have no idea about what it could be worth, but I sure hope for you that this can work out. These Regal Lancer are extraordinary cars! |
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Location: Sweden Vansbro | This Regal, Cupper/Black, regal, is my dream car, but I want a D500 also, Well, a dream,,,,,
well, I am close,,,
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Location: bishop, ca | Mark, what you pay for the car, in addition to its physical condition, depends upon what the seller THINKS that he has.
"Some" rust means a LOT of rust, and Regals are not cheap to restore.
Also, what you pay for the car depends upon how well you want to restore it, and what you want to DO with the
car, once you're done with it.
If you intend to keep and enjoy its ownership over many years, its purchase price is almost irrelevant, because the
car's value will continue to appreciate over the years.
If you want to do a quickie, or a Hot Rod job and/or to turn the car, to try to realize a profit on your investment, that's
a business decision that only you can make.
Good luck on getting it, though!
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Location: Utah | d500neil - 2010-06-12 3:28 PM
Mark, what you pay for the car, in addition to its physical condition, depends upon what the seller THINKS that he has.
"Some" rust means a LOT of rust, and Regals are not cheap to restore.
Also, what you pay for the car depends upon how well you want to restore it, and what you want to DO with the
car, once you're done with it.
If you intend to keep and enjoy its ownership over many years, its purchase price is almost irrelevant, because the
car's value will continue to appreciate over the years.
If you want to do a quickie, or a Hot Rod job and/or to turn the car, to try to realize a profit on your investment, that's
a business decision that only you can make.
Good luck on getting it, though!
Neil, thanks for your help. I fell in love with the Ruffalo car and especially the colors. Unfortunately the one I've found has the other color scheme cream and copper. As for value, I agree and disagree. For years one could pick up a decent 67 chevelle for around $3500. Now the same car runs $15k and up. So in this scenario the price is dictated by the market. I am looking for information on what the market says it is worth, and especially what you-all think it is worth since there really isn't much information out there.... at least that I can find. Most likely I won't pick it up since I have too many projects already, however I wouldn't want to overpay should I decide to make the leap. Thanks! Mark |
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Location: bishop, ca | Well, Mark, the restoration-purchase market is soft, compared to the 90's, when there was a feeding frenzy
regarding a nice quick turn-around on a so-so condition resto job, that happened to look nice as it was pushed
across the auction block, where a lot of times there were eager foreign buyers for 50's Mopes.
Remember the Japanese buyers, who have completely disappeared, along with their commercial real estate
purchases, and, their country's economy?
Show, show us the car's condition, please.
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Location: The Mile High City | Hi, Mark -
I would love to see pictures, if you can get them. I would guess that you would pay anywhere from $5,000 to $15,000 for a running, driving Regal in need of "restoration." |
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Location: The Mile High City | Ok we have it linked together now. Here is the thread from August 2010:
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Location: The Mile High City | Sure enough, Bengt! I even posted the car! How soon we forget... |
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Location: Michigan | Anyone ever hear what became of poor "frostbite"? |
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Location: The Mile High City | It is amazing all that has happened since the thread started with Frostbite: he started out asking $29,500 for that car and now you can get a very decent Super D-500 Regal for about the same price! How the mighty have fallen!
I thought the Frostbite might have sold - for less than that first asking price went. However, I never heard who bought it or what happened to it.
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Location: The Mile High City | filerecovery - 2010-08-12 2:28 AM
Neil, I don't think whoever built this particular model was trying to build a Regal. It does appear that they were trying to build a car exactly like the "tribute" car. Yes, the red or coral shields are peculiar - otherwise it seems to be a match.
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Location: bishop, ca | NOW, can someone (Sir Clive; Mike; anyone?) tie-in Jeremy Patton's Regal Lancer thread, over on the Member's Rides board,
to this thread???
ANOTHER Regal lancer is 'found'.....it was never missing!
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Location: The Mile High City | Holy smokes! That's a Regal alright! Never would have known the thread was there! http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=32274&posts=41&start=1 I haven't really examined all the photos yet, but the radio delete plate is very interesting as well as the lack of a shield and lance on the glove box door (same as Ruffalo's - heck, maybe they all came that way). That is a signature element of the Custom Royal series - I wonder what the Regals didn't get them? It is just the plain old Royal glove box door. Maybe they drew the line at a lil' tiny black shield and silver lance. Interesting - standard wheelcovers on his too. This is very interesting. This example certainly looks "lived in". I love it!
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Location: bishop, ca | I should know this, but too lazy to look 'it' up, but shouldn't the dash bezels be 'copper' colored???
Mike, there's no evidence of a filled-in fender-antenna hole, but, this car is supposed to have a radio.
An eccentric original owner---didn't like the OEM 2-tone; that's eccentric, and he didn't care for having a radio
be installed in the car, either, in CA, where there were a lot of radio stations (I think).
This is not your 'typical' Regal...
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Location: MN | So what is the red 60 Dart infront of the white Regal Super D500 |
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Location: The Mile High City | very interesting Regal! Some of the sales literature said they were supposed to have bronze colored inserts where the textured aluminum inserts go around the dash and in the glove box door, but I don't think that ever made it into production. Aivar's does not have the bronze colored inserts and his is one of the earliest. I have not seen them on any car. The dash and glove box are just like the Royal.
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Location: bishop, ca | Got a PM from a man who is contemplating buying a D500 (as confirmed from the P/T plate info he sent to me)
black/copper Regal; dunno if it's one that we've seen here, before, but, it might be a new addition to the 'family'!
Not too many black/copper D500's still known to exist.
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Location: The Mile High City | Only the one that we knew of. It would be very interesting if there were another, but my guess it is the same we have seen. |
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Location: bishop, ca | Turns-out, it's the "Missouri" car, a real Single-4 D500; that the one you're recalling, Mike?
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Location: The Mile High City | Right! Is the fella you talked to looking at a genuine Super D500 with the copper over black scheme? That would be different! |
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Location: bishop, ca | The car might, now, be sporting a pair of AFB's on it, but it was built as a Single-4.
I've never encountered a real Super D500 Regal Lancer, but, they (it!) must have been built, among the 1,163 of them.
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Location: Ponder, TX | I was considering purchasing the Missouri car for my wife, as her first car was a black/bronze single 4-bbl Regal Lancer that her dad bought for her about 1967.
We decided not to buy it because in my opinion it needed too many things to bring it back to stock. The car was built as a single 4-bbl, with A/C, but it's been converted to duals, and the A/C has been removed. The photos suggest that the paint job is not restoration quality, and a unique piece of stainless trim is missing.
Unless I did most of the work, the restoration bill would have put the investment too far beyond the value of the car, and most of my time is already committed to my '56 Belvedere project. |
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Location: The Mile High City | Aha! And if I would have made myself more conspicuous at the Colorado MoPar show, I could have got the inside scoop! Gary, do you mind me asking what the asking price for this car was? |
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Location: Ponder, TX | Lancer Mike - 2010-09-16 2:02 PM
Aha! And if I would have made myself more conspicuous at the Colorado MoPar show, I could have got the inside scoop! Gary, do you mind me asking what the asking price for this car was?
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Location: Blackpool, United Kingdom. | would a regal lancer come without any options, such as pw, ps, bumper teeth, exhaust tips, license plate insert,glovebox emblem, also does anyone know what is the rarest colour scheme? the one ive seen is copper over black,
would the data plate show any of this?
thanks paul.
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Location: The Mile High City | Hi, Paul:
This thread has been going for awhile. I think we discussed some of the Regal options once. I think Regals may have had optional bumper spuds, rear guards, power seat, power windows, and license plate insert. Probably power steering, power brakes, radio, and heater were options too - but gosh, that would be rare. Exhaust tips should be standard and no glove box emblem (strange).
It seems the rarest surviving color scheme would be a black car with copper fins.
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Location: bishop, ca | Yes, those rectangular seat 'buttons' are separate pieces; over on page-4 of this thread you'll see a good view of a seat
showing how those 'buttons' were attached to it.
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Location: Blackpool, United Kingdom. | ok thanks,bit reluctant to buy this one at first as not got correct headliner or seats, but neil checked out data tag for me and came back ok, looks like it has power steering and brakes, rear speaker and dual antennas, tinted glass including windsheild, will know more when i get it back to uk, gary goers replied back to me he can do the seat covers but not till later in year, door panels may tidy up yet with a bit of material? dont know about seat foam yet?
as for headliner need a 58 for pattern, it has a 57 in a moment with cream division bars 
350 motor out of car at moment, looks like it needs a rebuild.
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Location: bishop, ca | Paul, MoPar Mel sells the correct chrome-style headliner bows for your car ( I believe--not cheap, but the only correct like-new
ones that are available).
As I mentioned, you can approximate the "Accousta-Foam" headliner by having your local upholstery shop custom install
a large piece(s) of the seat vinyl material (available from SMS) into the 'roof'.
You can have your shop stitch together the sheet vinyl so that the seams are hidden by the headliner bows, and, there should be
some sort of thin padding, like fiberglass, installed between the roof and the headliner vinyl.
BTW, those 57-58 cream-colored headliner bows ARE valuable, so protect them.
Gary Goers may well be an excellent option for the creation of the Regal Lancer seats, as long as Gary knows precisely how they
should be constructed, and, I think that he has made-up those seats, before.
Otherwise, I am a firm believer in a local auto upholstery shop's ability to follow the existing patterns of a car's upholstery, so
that they can be allowed to custom-fit the(ir) upholstery to your seat frames and to the(ir) seat foam padding.
The Regals DO have a very slight raising-up of their seat bolsters (vinyl) so as to approximate the look and feel of bucket
seats.
I've personally known Gary since the early 80's and have a lot of respect for his work and his products, and, he is a no-
brainer about creating Chrysler 300 interiors, but, I'd sure feel better about having a local upholstery shop make up MY Regal
Lancer's seats, or, at least, would want to see some examples of Gary's Regal lancer seat work.
You'll need to contact SMS, at any rate, regarding obtaining the fluted upper door trim vinyl material, and, maybe-probably,
having SMS create the custom-fluted white door/trim panel material---which your upholstery shop can, then, stitch together for you,
along with the black tufted cut-pile carpeting.
Your upholstery shop can procure that 'rough' carpeting in the UK, and then custom stitch-it-together in their shop.
The carpeting is not 'molded', but, rather, is merely cut-and-stitched, and I have a complete carpet remnant at home, and can
show anyone what the carpeting looks like and how it is cut-and-sewn together, to fit over the transmission hump.
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Location: Blackpool, United Kingdom. | hi neil,
dont think there is anyone in the uk that is interested in upholstery work like this, if there was it would be around $4000 plus material, i had this problem with the last one i did and ended up selling without seats done even though i had bought all the material from sms, could not find anyone to do it without patterns,found a guy who said he would do it for $2000 from photos i had, then kept changing the date so gave up on him in end, i did try myself on the rear seat but was not happy with the outcome.
i bought the headliner from mel for that the bows were just covered in gold tape which i removed and painted same colour as headliner surround, dont know if they are any better now though?
gary said he had done 4 sets upto now?
heres the link to my last one said i would never do another
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Location: bishop, ca | Unfortunately, that result is what can happen if a shop tries to install a pre-made upholstery set.
If Gary's done four previous sets, that's an excellent recommendation.
See if he can provide you with the foam padding, too, as well as the side trim panels(??).
You can send out your headliner bows for 'chrome'-flash plating, I think.
At any rate, the headliner bows are supposed to be in chrome finish.
Also, when you are done installing your new, very-expensive, interior you might think about having
your shop custom-install clear plastic covers over it.
It's very easy to say to yourself : "self, I'm gonna be real careful about letting anyone get into/outa
this car", but, once someone gets into it, with anything sticking out of his rear pocket, or having Levi's
rivets (been there; done that), gouging the plastic, only, you'll be real glad that that plastic is there!
And, then, there's the unavoidable wear-and-tear/soiling of the unprotected upholstery...
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Location: Blackpool, United Kingdom. | d500neil - 2011-02-16 11:06 PM
(Unfortunately, that result is what can happen if a shop tries to install a pre-made upholstery set. )
neil, Thats what i ended up doing myself with a sewing machine at home, from pictures, gave up after that attempt  Edited by springsweptwing 2011-02-16 6:24 PM
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