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jboymechanic![]() |
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Expert Posts: 2202 ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Muskego, WI | BarnFind57 - 2012-03-22 7:17 AM Got most of the inner rocker in... cut away all of the remaining wreck damage in the rear corner floor by the wheel well. Straightened the wheel well itself.... I had to stop so I could get a refill on my gas bottle... picked that up at lunch time.... Also, the NOS fairy dropped me off a little package in the mailbox... an oil filter adapter plate so I can change over to a spin-on. Go ahead... Just call me lazy.... I will be smiling every time I don't look down and see a drip coming from the canister. ![]() Where does one find such an adapter? Plan to do the same on my '58 once it's in my possesion. | ||
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safetymike77![]() |
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Expert Posts: 4533 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Ripon, WI | Basically? You just use the newer parts from mopar for the 318 LA engines. | ||
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Expert Posts: 2679 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Took the ride out the other day with 26 more pieces of chrome back on her, so having 50 pieces re-done total. ![]() ![]() Edited by 59CRL 2012-03-23 7:35 PM | ||
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JT Vincent![]() |
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Expert Posts: 1493 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Jamaica Plain, MA | Got home from work at 6, pulled out the crunchy, leaking manual steering gear, fitted the new power steering gear, sat down to dinner at 7:15. Now I just have to remember where all these wires go. (photo(1).JPG) (photo.JPG) Attachments ---------------- ![]() ![]() | ||
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 323 ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: New Orleans-ish | I finished installing (retrofitting) the factory A/C setup in the '61 Newport! Took quite a bit of tweaking since it never had one before, but now it's indistinguishable from a factory-built setup. That is, unless you look at the fender tag...:) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 8445 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Perth Australia | Jon I think the only mysery wire you might find will be the horn wire. Looking at my cars, the manual steering has the horn wire run up the column from near the steering box where the power steering is from under the dash The rest should be a plug in | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 8445 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Perth Australia | That 59 looks awesome Must be hard to drive without arms (cost of chrome) lol How did you do the black anteneas? | ||
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di_ch_NY56![]() |
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Expert Posts: 1530 ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: ZH, Switzerland | Yes, it looks like jewel now. Big congratulation to your wonderful 59 Custom Royal Lancer. Happy Motoring! Dieter | ||
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di_ch_NY56![]() |
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Expert Posts: 1530 ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: ZH, Switzerland | On Thursday evening I did a 50 mi trip to check the functions of my Chrysli. The steering wheel has an offset to the LH side now and the rear wheels tends to block earlier than the front wheel. So I have to adjust the brake shoes at the front axle and LH rear side. I didn't hear or feel drops or surges during driving and acceleration. I guess the new ignition coil does it. For the pictures I let the Chrysli at idle and after parking I noticed that the glass bowl was at half full level now. Actually I don't know if the fuel pump is at the limit at very low idle or if the new rubber gasket has swollen too. Happy Motoring! Dieter BTW: limits of the iPhone 4 camera... (IMG_0550resized.jpg) (IMG_0551resized.jpg) Attachments ---------------- ![]() ![]() | ||
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Expert Posts: 2679 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ttotired - 2012-03-23 11:45 PM That 59 looks awesome Must be hard to drive without arms (cost of chrome) lol How did you do the black anteneas? The antennas and just about everything that was chrome was painted black when I bought the car. I had all the chrome redone. I left the antennas black cuz I like them that way, different looking ya know?! I need new eyebrows but did get a lead on a set. | ||
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: bishop, ca | Aren't the eyebrows stainless steel? Dieter, after all that you've done for your car, and what you know about maintaining it, you'll probably be very suspicious about the mechanical condition of any other car that is advertised for sale as being 'restored'. Your tires, there, look massive! Edited by d500neil 2012-03-24 12:39 PM | ||
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safetymike77![]() |
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Expert Posts: 4533 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Ripon, WI | Pretty sure they made them for that in Stainless and in chrome.... | ||
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59CRL![]() |
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Expert Posts: 2679 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | safetymike77 - 2012-03-24 3:10 PM Pretty sure they made them for that in Stainless and in chrome.... The Coronets are stainless steel, the Custom Royals and CRL's are wider and chromed steel. It would be nice if they were stainless. | ||
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Desotorandy![]() |
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Veteran Posts: 234 ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Chambersburg,PA | Over the past two wks here in centeral PA it's been warm,been out every night after work till late just cleaning the interior and polishing the many chrome peices. I have my brakes appart,going to blast the backing plates and paint em' replace the axle and pinion seals,also rebuild and detail the front end also rebuild the heater valve. Getting close to cruising and car show time! Can't wait to burn some gasoline while listening to the AM radio :O) | ||
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 475 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Las Vegas, NV | I took the 61 out to the weekly Cars and Coffee of Las Vegas. While there, I took the first pics of the car with the new paint and bodywork completed. I also saw this 57 DeSoto while I was there, which was a rare treat, since my car has always been the only forward look in attendance whenever I have driven it there. (atCarsandCoffee3 24 2012 2 small.jpg) (atCarsandCoffee3 24 2012 small.jpg) (57DesCarsandCoffee 4 small.jpg) (57DesCarsandCoffee 9 small.jpg) Attachments ---------------- ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
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Windsor Wendy![]() |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 395 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Netherlands | Will, your car looks great with the new paint! Like the stylish bullits in the reverse lights, did you just drill the lenses? | ||
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 475 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Las Vegas, NV | Windsor Wendy - 2012-03-25 5:23 AM Will, your car looks great with the new paint! Like the stylish bullits in the reverse lights, did you just drill the lenses? Yes. I also had to put smaller bulbs in my backup light sockets to make room for the bolts that hold the bullets. The doors are also working as they should now. (I don't know if you remember, but I had mentioned before that they were sticking.) The paint is DuPont 99K. It looks really sharp. It looks blacker in person than it does in the pics for some reason. | ||
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Expert Posts: 3578 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Blythewood, SC | Drove to church. Had a puddle under the front when we came out. Looks like the top tank is leaking on the radiator again. Do I fix it or push on for the last week of the Snowbird Challenge? | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Signal Mountain, TN | 57plymouth - 2012-03-25 1:05 PM Drove to church. Had a puddle under the front when we came out. Looks like the top tank is leaking on the radiator again. Do I fix it or push on for the last week of the Snowbird Challenge? Push on, man!.... put a jug in the trunk with you (I know there's room back there....) ![]() | ||
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Expert Posts: 1530 ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: ZH, Switzerland | Today I did a 130 mi round trip. Prior I readjusted the steering links and the front brakes. The steering wheel is centered now and the free way at the pedal was much shorter. But during a break after about half an hour of my journey with a short 75 mph ride within a guy asked me it's smelling like hot brakes. I smelled it too, but couldn't figure out from where. After the full journey back at the storing location I noticed the smell again. I walked around and touched every wheel cap. The front RH wheel cap was warm. After putting the Chrysli into the barn I removed the RH front wheel cap. The lug nuts were hotter than the center of the brake drum. But there was no smoke, just smell (the same I noticed when I got the relined and radius ground brake shoes back). I guess the temperature of the lug nuts was around 50 to 60 degree C and the center below 50 degree ( 122 to 140 F, 122 F). Happy Motoring! Dieter | ||
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wizard![]() |
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 13062 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Hmm, seems like the brake shoes drag a little - lift up the car and check that the drums turns next to freely. If there is some drag, it will be ok after some more miles. | ||
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safetymike77![]() |
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Expert Posts: 4533 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Ripon, WI | Got my front sub off, with the engine and trans intact. Pics at 11.... | ||
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di_ch_NY56![]() |
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Expert Posts: 1530 ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: ZH, Switzerland | wizard - 2012-03-24 8:52 PM Hmm, seems like the brake shoes drag a little - lift up the car and check that the drums turns next to freely. If there is some drag, it will be ok after some more miles. Hello Sven Thank you very much for your answer. I'm sorry I've got a silly question: How much grease do you pack into the hub at the front brake drums? I installed the bearings just with the preload of grease. I think it's not enough. I'll appreciate your answer very much. Thank you. I plan to lift up and check the if it will revolve freely. Otherwise I remove the drum and seek for the initial setting of the brake shoes (the start point where the excenter is at minimum). Happy Motoring! Dieter | ||
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wizard![]() |
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 13062 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Hi Dieter, the bearing shall be properly greased, applying grease with the fingers, while rotating the bearing. lets say that the amount of grease shall be the same level as the height of the rollers in the bearing. Thereafter, the grease cap shall be filled, lets say to a third with grease. Thats the way I do it. There are bearing lubrication tools available today for low cost also, but I prefer to do the work like in the old days. | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1052 ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Auckland, New Zealand. | What does filling the grease cap with grease do? Just curious, I'm sure there must be a good reason to, but I just can't think what. If it's in the cap surely it wouldn't find it's way into the bearing from there? wizard - 2012-03-26 7:31 PM Hi Dieter, the bearing shall be properly greased, applying grease with the fingers, while rotating the bearing. lets say that the amount of grease shall be the same level as the height of the rollers in the bearing. Thereafter, the grease cap shall be filled, lets say to a third with grease. Thats the way I do it. There are bearing lubrication tools available today for low cost also, but I prefer to do the work like in the old days. | ||
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wizard![]() |
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 13062 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Actually, in the old days, we were teached to fill all the free space with grease - look at the pictures below, all the gray shadowed areas should be filled with grease. It should be a spare resovair as well as to take up some heat, that's what I recall our old teacher saying back then. Note, the "Bakhjulslager" is the rear axle bearing. Edited by wizard 2012-03-26 4:44 AM (Resize of Bearing_grease.png) Attachments ---------------- ![]() | ||
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di_ch_NY56![]() |
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Expert Posts: 1530 ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: ZH, Switzerland | wizard - 2012-03-25 10:39 AM Actually, in the old days, we were teached to fill all the free space with grease - look at the pictures below, all the gray shadowed areas should be filled with grease. It should be a spare resovair as well as to take up some heat, that's what I recall our old teacher saying back then. Note, the "Bakhjulslager" is the rear axle bearing. Yep, I thought about it earlier. When the wheel is rotating the the centrifual force brings the grease to the max diameter inside the hub. The grease wanders along the inner surface and finaly goes through the race of the bearing. Then back to the center - and the game begins again. Not long ago I saw a video about rear brake shoe exchange at a 508 Mercedes (in Germany, Youtube) where the very experienced truck mechanic filled in a little bit oil (in addition to the grease). When the grease is warm and the wheel stands still the grease seeks the lowest point. With some oil this effect is more pronounced. After a certain time (rotating again) the grease is all around at the surface. Happy Motoring! Dieter Edited by di_ch_NY56 2012-03-26 6:01 AM | ||
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Expert Posts: 1530 ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: ZH, Switzerland | d500neil - 2012-03-23 6:38 PM Aren't the eyebrows stainless steel? Dieter, after all that you've done for your car, and what you know about maintaining it, you'll probably be very suspicious about the mechanical condition of any other car that is advertised for sale as being 'restored'. Your tires, there, look massive! Hello Neil I guess you mentioned the 59 CRL (eyebrows) and not me. Mine are not stainless steel (;-). About restored cars... yes and no. From the pictures I saw I noticed that the engine bay is original, not dressed nor replaced the key parts with modern parts. The seller advertised new painted and new interior. These three points (and the color of course) were the base of my decision to buy it. I didn't think about when the last maintenance could have been done. I should be aware that some guys ride a car with no maintenance until it dies or an expensive defect appears. Or like my grand mum died: all organs stopped working at the same time. She was 89 at that time. At the hemmings (500k Adventure) I noticed a 55 Dodge for about 29k. I think the seller is honest writing about the little blow by and the oil consumption even though the engine bay is nicely detailed. To check if e.g. the trunnion at this car is well maintained - this is almost impossible... About the tires. Yes they are looking massive at this picture. It's the close to stock dimension 235/75R15 3"WW. Happy Motoring! Dieter Edited by di_ch_NY56 2012-03-27 7:54 AM | ||
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Veteran Posts: 124 ![]() Location: duluth mn. | my daughter and i got her savoy all cleaned up and ready for a carshow this weekend (her first). i have been doing a little fabbing on my belvedere lately as well. (savoy cleaned.JPG) Attachments ---------------- ![]() | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1172 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Georgia | Looks terrific, Tony! Post some photos from the show if you make it. Pete | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 792 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Buena Park, CA | Well it wasn't just today, but over the last couple of weekends I completely cleaned, painted, replaced all rubber, installed new kingpin and bushings, shock, and spring on the passenger side of my 56 Plymouth. Now on the the driver's side. Here are "before" and "after" shots. (20120307_155715copy.jpg) (20120325_171314.copy.jpg) Attachments ---------------- ![]() ![]() | ||
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: bishop, ca | If the grease cups have any significant hammer-dents on them (from re-installing them), their circumference/diameter can be affected, so that they will throw off excess grease from around them, at speed. You'll know about it, when it happens. | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 957 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Signal Mountain, TN | We all have those moments, and they usually result from trying to dome something constructive while we are so tired we can hardly stand up.... Last night around 10 o'clock I tacked in the upper section of the passenger outer rocker, and plug welded along the bottom of it, and was quite proud of myself.... right up untill I realized that I had meassured the dimensions for the inner to outer edge wrong, so the front door hung out over the rocker by 1/4"... ![]() Today I went home on my lunch break, ate a quick bite (big guy no eat no workee) and cut the tacks out, seperated the new panel from the old, and welded it back in the right place... There is an advantage to using a lap seam versus a butt welded joint on a rocker sill. ![]() ![]() | ||
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 347 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Ocean Park, Washington | The before and after shots really let you see the work that was performed. Have a beer or two for that job, it looks great!! | ||
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Veteran Posts: 100 ![]() Location: west chazy ny | Went today and just tried to see if my brakes work did a half fast bleed job and moved it it stops a little but after when I moved it the pass brake froze for a second. I guess sitting 10 years will do that lol. Took and started chipping all the floor undercoating off still got some to do in the front and all the back wish there was an easier way to remove it. Also pulled the re moveable floor piece on the driver side. With that out I can see my bad rear brake line and fix some wiring that go's under there. Did find 3 rust holes in the floors ![]() Depsilon D What did you do to clean up your front end there? Looks Good | ||
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Expert Posts: 1737 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Hay Lakes, Alberta, Canada | Rebels-59 Coronet - 2011-05-16 3:23 PM From NEIL D500 .............. Just spent 10 hours, this past weekend installing a new driver's side door latch, and refinishing the door edge area, in OEM red/white colors. The driver's door, suddenly, had not wanted to close, fully, at times. Bought a used door latch and cleaned/lubed it, and waited for a proper weekend to do the project. Upon its removal, discovered that one the door latch's internal tumbler-teeth had completely broken off from its tumbler body, and that the remainder of the internal tumbler teeth were in very poor condition, compared to the 'normal' appearing condition of the latch's visible external tumbler teeth. Also discovered that the door handle's lifting-lever's welded- on mounting nut had pretty much been stripped out, so that I had to remove the handle and have a sympathetic body shop Mig-on a new mounting nut onto the handle's lifting arm's failed nut. Adjusting a door handle to work the door, smoothly, in company with the door lock's operation, is always a hassle. Anyway, with the door jam's painting, the project came out just fine, eventually. As a word of caution, however, as you can see, your door latch's exterior tumblers may look OK, but its non-visible internal tumbler teeth may be in very poor condition. It may not be a bad idea to buy a replacement driver's side door latch, to have on hand, as a future spare part. I have started a new thread in the Body/Interior section regarding door latches and issues in the FL cars. ![]() | ||
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Expert Posts: 4533 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Ripon, WI | I spend a good part of the day doing things around my 60 dodge. I took the slant sub frame down to Belvidere IL, where I exchanged it for the V8 one and the 360/727 that will power my car. I helped pull the Plymouth's sub and front sheet metal off. They helped me load my V8 sub and back home we went. Started the day at 8 AM... ended it at around 5:30 at home... Then of course a quick stop at applebees turned into an hour and a half ordeal. | ||
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 347 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Ocean Park, Washington | Started cutting out the rusted floorboard sections, and removed the rear seat body braces. They are rusted from the inside. This car had to have sat in a dry river bed or something like that for these braces to be so rusted on the inside and not the outside. | ||
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Veteran Posts: 124 ![]() Location: duluth mn. | we made it to the car show. managed to get a couple of awards as well. one for outstanding restored, and a rising star award (for younger people getting into the hobby) for paint on the savoy! kind of a suprise. my daughter had fun showing off her car, and the amount of interest in the car was unreal..... people loved it or didn't know what to think of it! drove home getting thumbs up the whole way too. good times! (rachel carshow 007 (Small).jpg) (rachel carshow 008 (Small).jpg) (rachel carshow 010 (Small).jpg) Attachments ---------------- ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
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Veteran Posts: 124 ![]() Location: duluth mn. | this beauty is a friend of mine's... just finished (rachel carshow 001 (Small).jpg) (rachel carshow 003 (Small).jpg) (rachel carshow 004 (Small).jpg) Attachments ---------------- ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: bishop, ca | Nice going, Tony! Looking at your car made me flash back to the fall of 60, when those designs were brought out, and remembering how daringly flashy and unreal they appeared, compared to anything that had preceded them! | ||
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Expert Posts: 2788 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: USA - KY | ![]() Congratulations to your daughter, Tony! It's great to have her and her great car involved in the old car hobby! She's lucky to have a car guy like you for a dad. ![]() | ||
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Regular Posts: 70 ![]() ![]() | Another day of color sanding....................... | ||
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Veteran Posts: 184 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Canada | replaced the pitted and blistered left side tail light trim and cap with a nice shiny set... doing the right side tomorrow... also found a mint new drag link (centre link) for 55 power steering 3 more things to do: 6v + gnd fuel pump inline pertronix ignition install the light green/white seat covers Edited by snik 2012-04-03 1:55 AM | ||
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Veteran Posts: 130 ![]() ![]() Location: Central NJ | I got the headers for my 56 in to test fit and and managed to finish fabricating the mount for the power steering pump. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Edited by Finadk 2012-04-16 1:35 AM | ||
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Expert Posts: 4533 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Ripon, WI | More of over the weekend, but I rebuilt a 727 that turns out it didn't need it..... Cleaning it up on the outside was messy! Managed to get the oil pan, timing cover and water pump painted. Most of the time this weekend was spent wire-wheeling everything that was left that needed it. Heads, trans, etc. Oh, and the subframe is now painted. ![]() | ||
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 13062 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Drove to the bi-annual inspection this morning - clean report, no remarks at all. Oh by the way, nice work on the headers Scott! | ||
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Expert Posts: 1444 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Oconomowoc Wi | Got my Antenna Bases back from the plater with their new "Show Chrome" skins on. Pics taken with my camera phone so quality not the greatest, but here they are. I'll post again when they are installed.
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Expert Posts: 2202 ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Muskego, WI | Badger Metal Finishing has a bunch of my '56 Imperial chrome, my first experience with re-chroming. Are you happy with the results from them Bart? | ||
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Expert Posts: 1493 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Location: Jamaica Plain, MA | Test fitted the new floor pans. Because summer is coming and floors are good. Next step, use lightning to fuse steel together. (floor.JPG) (floor1.jpg) Attachments ---------------- ![]() ![]() | ||
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