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parat11
Posted 2010-05-07 6:11 PM (#222207)
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Posted 2010-05-07 6:37 PM (#222211 - in reply to #222207)
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Location: bishop, ca		Max, this car looks OK, but there's a couple of things that indicate that the restorer did not do
a very detailed investigation into how this FWDLK'er should be restored, like,
the wrong color of the valve covers and air cleaners, without the MoPar decals on them, and the fact that he installed
a Delco-Freedom battery (that IS a good battery!) with the aftermarket "MoPar" battery logo placed onto
its top(!---never seen that done, before), and, although with an apparently correct interior, the
seats are over-stuffed (again indicating a certain lack of restoration knowledge or concern).

The quarter panel window weatherstrip looks 'wrong', too, and the quarter panel trim panel may not
fit well, to the inner panel.

Hose clamps and battery cables; looks like very-little correct-parts research was done , beyond getting the
correct interior upholstery, and the exterior paint color(?).

The VIN tag was amateurishly masked-off too; there's a lot of indicators on this car that it was
a rushed job, for a quick resale.

So, although its asking-price may be decent, this car would appear to warrant a fairly thorough examination
and test driving before any purchase of it is made.

"This" is why an original non-restored car may be preferable to one that has just recently been 'completely
restored'....unless you know a LOT about the detail-work that went on, underneath all of that pretty-paint.








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carjock
Posted 2010-05-07 8:26 PM (#222224 - in reply to #222207)
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StillOutThere
Posted 2010-05-07 9:57 PM (#222237 - in reply to #222207)
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Location: Under the X in Texas		I'd own it in a heartbeat, especially being an AC car, and then fix the important things like that body gold is wayyy too soft a color choice, that the valve covers were Mopar aluminum silver on ALL DeSotos, and that '57 Adventurer air cleaners were gloss black. Anything else is picking nits.
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Posted 2010-05-07 10:55 PM (#222240 - in reply to #222224)
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carjock - 2010-05-07 7:26 PM

Sigh, does it ever stop?


I value the information offered on all the vehicles discussed on this site. I feel that "most" of the comments are not intended as simply cruel criticism, but sharing of knowledge and preventing many of us from making a mistake on our next purchase.

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Finsinthemirror
Posted 2010-05-07 11:41 PM (#222245 - in reply to #222207)
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2010-05-08 1:14 AM (#222254 - in reply to #222245)
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Finsinthemirror - 2010-05-08 8:41 PM

Frankly I'd be amazed if anyone spending 70K+ DID NOT know this stuff backwards and forwards, I sure would. At those prices you should be a very knowledgeable seasoned pro already especially for niche vehicles like these. Heckuva nice car at any rate. I know I'd love to have it.


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I guess you've never seen Barrett-Jackson ?

I cannot begin to remember how many cars have sold for cubic dollars at B-J, only to be discovered to
have been bogus representations and back on the market with the same fool buyer mentality trying to
perpetuate the scam to recoup his "stupid money".

This car is FUBAR enough at 70K to warrant looking a little deeper as to what other shortcuts were taken.
If it was a solid body, either original or properly repaired and had all the "critical mass" Adventurer parts
present, .... and if this was the car of my dreams, it would be easy enough to correct the rest. When it
comes to the really hard to find cars, one is not likely to find what they want without some compromise. I
would have liked to find a NICE 58 Fireflite convertible. Yeah, ... good luck on that one ! I took what I
could find.


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Handygun
Posted 2010-05-08 1:48 AM (#222258 - in reply to #222207)
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Posted 2010-05-08 5:44 AM (#222263 - in reply to #222207)
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Location: New Castle PA		There certainly are lots of incorrect things about this car, but it was NOT a rush paint-job just to sell. It used to be owned by a guy (I won't name him) in LaFolette, Tennessee, and was for sale in 2003. It looked basically the same then, even with the goofy underhood insulation and all the wrong colors. The only thing which has been added "just for the Hyman sale" was a new horn ring center, which was missing, and red lettering on the (wrong) gold valvecovers. It IS a very nice car. I'd have the wheelcovers gold anodized (they are painted) and slowly but surely fix all the other things.
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345 DeSoto
Posted 2010-05-08 7:24 AM (#222266 - in reply to #222207)
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carjock
Posted 2010-05-08 7:36 AM (#222267 - in reply to #222207)
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Now the latest comments are the type that are far more appropriate. There is little doubt that the car has some "personalization/irregularities", but most of us (me included) would be thrilled to death to take this prize home and if so motivated, correct the problems. Adventurers are cool and rare, and if anyone is looking for one, they should have done their homework and should have the car professionally inspected before parting with large sums of hard earned cash. Observations made from photos of a car of this caliber just don't get it done.
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Finsinthemirror
Posted 2010-05-08 8:44 AM (#222270 - in reply to #222254)
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Location: CA		Oh I've seen B-J and the other big money highly commercialized auctions which is exactly why I've got NO sympathy for well-to-do morons who lack the common sense to research something before buying. Two dogs fighting over a bone is what I see which is exactly why I don't waste my time watching religiously.
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Posted 2010-05-08 9:48 AM (#222275 - in reply to #222207)
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Posted 2010-05-08 10:48 AM (#222282 - in reply to #222207)
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Posted 2010-05-08 11:46 AM (#222289 - in reply to #222282)
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B/G 61 - 2010-05-08 9:48 AM Is it wrong of me not to be a fan of the wheel covers ??? I get it that thats part of the "pakage" but somethin about them kinda puts me off - I think it's a real sharp ride -

No sir!  Its right for you to have an opinion!  I'm not a fan of them either.  They look as bad painted as they do freshly anodized in gold and the immediate thing that comes to mind is gold wire wheels on some jumping low rider. 

If there is any part of the Adventurer package that I would have put on the shelf if I had been there to buy one of these cars new in 1957, it would be the wheel covers.   "Hello, local DeSoto dealer, yeah, I'll take the Adventurer in your showroom BUT put a set of '56 type chrome 15" Motor Wheel real wire wheels on the car and I'll be down with cash to pick up the car about noon!"   GREAT!  SEE YA.

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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2010-05-08 2:07 PM (#222300 - in reply to #222289)
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Location: Parts Unknown		Is it just me, or do other people wrestle with the cost of a given car vs. the "unobtainium" factor you have with those kinds of cars you just do
not see for sale ? I mean, ... Wow! .... 70K for an Adventurer coupe that is really done all wrong ? Not STUPID wrong, but just enough off to
be noticeable. That is some power scheckelage for a car like this. Not that I would expect any red tag sales at Hyman. Maybe I am living in
the past when I passed on a nice original for 10K ? It would just drive me nuts peeling this car back far enough to get it right after paying that
kind of money up front. Of course, the alternative is "go find another one!" Sometimes the high purchase price up front is made up for in years
of frustrating search for another at a better price ? I guess it all boils down to how much a guy keeps in the petty cash drawer and how bad he
wants a 57 Adventurer coupe.

I am with ya'll regarding the colored wheelcovers .... I love the style, HATE the color. I think it is because they remind me of early-mid 70's
Fords and Mercedes products with the painted wheelcovers. I really have no memory at all of Adventurers and the gold wheelcovers from way
back, so admittedly my paradigm is bent. My black and gold 56 was sans wheelcovers when I found it and got a set of whites and wires the
moment we got it out where a jack could be rolled under it.

Much like red and white cars, I'm not crazy about FL cars in colors that are common to other periods or really sedate. In late 50's context, an
all white or gold mix car would have stood out like a sore thumb, but out of the context, they tend to be pretty tame for curb presence. I always
liked the black with gold paint on them best, but prefer the bright pastels of the period. The Adventurer interior could not be more conservative.

For these reasons I lost my interest in the Adventurer model and moved over to the Fireflite.

If memory serves, all Adventurers should have the full complement of bumper guards (the rears are not present on this car) and the rear quarter
Forward Look emblem should have a checkered insert behind the rearmost "V" formation. Also, shouldn't the AC cars also have the big, elf-ear dash
directional "scoops" ? I do not see them.

The 57 Adventurer was my introduction to DeSotos and was the object of my desires for a long time. Back then, go-fast and powerful image were
more important to me than anything else. As time went on though, the playful and colorful interior fabrics and unique period exterior paints began to
overrule those dual quads that were chained to a sedate color scheme. It is a beautiful car that is off by 10 degrees on almost every major detail.
However, if a 57 Adventurer coupe was THE car for someone, all this stuff could be fixed while still enjoying the car. As I said above, I only WISH
my Fireflite had been this nice when I got it !
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parat11
Posted 2010-05-08 3:02 PM (#222305 - in reply to #222207)
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Location: Austria, Vienna		Gentelmen,

Here is my adventurer for your judgement. But i have original wheels as well. i bought the car with these wheels and decided to keep them for a while. dont throw rotten tomatoes into me:)



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parat11
Posted 2010-05-08 3:05 PM (#222306 - in reply to #222207)
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parat11
Posted 2010-05-08 3:11 PM (#222307 - in reply to #222207)
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Location: Austria, Vienna		First photo - the way the previos owner got a car for frame off restoration. Last photo - already restored car.:)
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d500neil
Posted 2010-05-08 3:11 PM (#222308 - in reply to #222305)
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Location: bishop, ca		Too many red-flags on it, for me to spend my Fantasy Money, on this car.

Yeah, it is pretty-looking.

Gift, certainly; purchase? Definitely unlikely.

Max, do you know/can you tell us the history of your car?








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1960DesotoAdventurer
Posted 2010-05-08 3:14 PM (#222309 - in reply to #222245)
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Finsinthemirror - 2010-05-07 11:41 PM

Frankly I'd be amazed if anyone spending 70K+ DID NOT know this stuff backwards and forwards, I sure would. At those prices you should be a very knowledgeable seasoned pro already especially for niche vehicles like these. Heckuva nice car at any rate. I know I'd love to have it.



You'd be suprised! there are a few folks out there with more money than brains!,especially in the entertainment industry

Edited by 1960DesotoAdventurer 2010-05-08 3:36 PM
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d500neil
Posted 2010-05-08 3:16 PM (#222310 - in reply to #222207)
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parat11
Posted 2010-05-08 3:17 PM (#222311 - in reply to #222207)
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Location: Austria, Vienna		I know only the guy i bought in Sweden and previos owner from bill of sale, to be honest not much. Ed Pterus should know more on it:) but my engine compartment looks different.:)
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2010-05-08 3:19 PM (#222312 - in reply to #222308)
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Location: Parts Unknown		Max ~

You car is also missing the rear bumper guards. Hmmm .....

Also note the missing "V" doo-dad over the side trim at the fender.

The new wheels look like sh!t. Got a thumpin' stereo and some ghetto rap playing to go with them ?

Sorry, no "tomatoes" intended. I just don't go for the ghetto image.

Wheels are easy to change.
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parat11
Posted 2010-05-08 3:22 PM (#222313 - in reply to #222207)
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Location: Austria, Vienna		i have original wheels seen on the first pic. i keep them behind the car.:) last October on Mecum such a car was sold for 120 000. Of coz it was a crazy event. last month on RM car needed work was sold at 55k. So the Hymans price is about 64-65 seems to be ok, but not cheap.

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StillOutThere
Posted 2010-05-08 3:48 PM (#222318 - in reply to #222207)
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Regarding '57 Adventurer factory basic equipment versus equipment still optional even for the Adventurer:

Front and rear bumper guards are both optional.  Note to some who may be reading this as to what a "rear bumper guard" is on a '57 DeSoto:  it is the multi-inch broad cast pot metal piece on the back end of the lower quarter panel - it doesn't actually attach to the bumper!   The standard piece is a half inch wide pot metal cap to finish off the quarter panel as the bumper face bar actually sits within the quarter panels side to side.

The upper rear quarter panel Forward Look chevron emblem DOES come with a checkerboard background. 

Fireflites and Adventures both have the fork surrounded gold annodized DeSoto head emblem on the upper stainless piece on the front fender side trim on both sides of the car.

The dash AC vents double as defroster vents when pushed into their lowered positions and I would assume they are currently lowered.  The car obviously shows the correct AC compressor and larger AC blower encassed with additional factory insulation on the firewall so there is every reason to believe this is an AC car and has correct AC vents in the dash.  Of course, one would want to check the data tag to see 351 there to verify the factory installation. 



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Finsinthemirror
Posted 2010-05-08 3:55 PM (#222319 - in reply to #222318)
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Posted 2010-05-08 5:20 PM (#222324 - in reply to #222318)
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Regarding '57 Adventurer factory basic equipment versus equipment still optional even for the Adventurer:

Front and rear bumper guards are both optional.  Note to some who may be reading this as to what a "rear bumper guard" is on a '57 DeSoto:  it is the multi-inch broad cast pot metal piece on the back end of the lower quarter panel - it doesn't actually attach to the bumper!   The standard piece is a half inch wide pot metal cap to finish off the quarter panel as the bumper face bar actually sits within the quarter panels side to side.



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Wayne, just to pick nits for accuracy sake; the bumper guard, both front and back, are pressed steel. The "basic" thin quarter end trim is potmetal, as you say.
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1960DesotoAdventurer
Posted 2010-05-08 6:31 PM (#222329 - in reply to #222207)
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Location: Plymouth Spaceport		I've always liked the 1957-1959 Dodge lancer crossbar hubcaps a lot,but I dont think the '57 DeSotos "turbines" are that bad.
I wonder why Chrysler never made any really special caps for the Furys,the 1957's are basically the same as the standard plymouth model,but with little circles around the perimeter,and then in 1958 all they did was paint the center section of the normal hubcap gold.
For such a specail limited edition car you'd have thought they'd go the extra mile!

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Finsinthemirror
Posted 2010-05-08 7:03 PM (#222336 - in reply to #222329)
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Location: CA		Yeah but the Fury,300, Adventurers were rather exclusive on the suspensions, interiors and trim appointments, drivetrains too. The gold they used was anodized, not paint. A paint process would be considerably easier which is why our friend with the Adventurer in this thread painted the wheelcovers as opposed to have them re-anodized.
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Posted 2010-05-08 7:12 PM (#222338 - in reply to #222324)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2010-05-08 4:20 PM
******* Wayne, just to pick nits for accuracy sake; the bumper guard, both front and back, are pressed steel. The "basic" thin quarter end trim is potmetal, as you say.

Thanks for that correction!  It has been a LONG time since I've had one (or a pair) in my hands!

 

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Posted 2010-05-08 9:03 PM (#222347 - in reply to #222207)
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Was this car sold at the 57 Heaven auction? It looks VERY similar. I don't remember that one having A/C though.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2010-05-08 9:24 PM (#222352 - in reply to #222338)
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Location: Parts Unknown		For whatever reason/s, Mother Mopar thought the very conservative approach with the performance
models was the way to go. The 300 did get a few colors outside the white/off-white scope before the
original theme was abandoned. The gold trim is certainly pretty, be it the painted bits or the anodized.
It just lacks the "WOW!" factor of turquoise or coral. I'd love to have a 58 Fury, but next to anything
with color, they sure are sedate. I guess that was the look Mopar had in mind for them. If you wanted
go-fast AND color you saw your friendly Dodge dealer !
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d500neil
Posted 2010-05-08 10:32 PM (#222360 - in reply to #222207)
Subject: Re: 57 desoto adventurer



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Location: bishop, ca		Ma Mopar chose conservative colors for its upper-end cars because it knew the socio-economic profile of its Prospects;
the Venturer/300 crowd were in their late 40's(+), and were not attuned to the influences of "rockandroll", and
wouldn't be overly concerned about having bright ostentatious colors on their cars.

Now, as to why the FURY was available only in a 1-color hardtop version was probably related to the control of limited-
production manufacturing costs (like the higher-end models), but, the Fury was the Corporate Hot Rod, and the Factory
really missed a 'Golden' opportunity in not promoting it extensively.

The Factory did not truly believe in the "Win-on-Sunday/Sell-on-Monday" ethos.

Just imagine 'what-could-have-been', if there had been a Corporate honcho who believed in, and who influenced,
competition promotion to the same extent that Exner influenced the styling of our cars.

It is unfortunate that there wasn't another sponsor, like Kiekaeffer, which could have raced and promoted the 56-57 Furys.







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1960DesotoAdventurer
Posted 2010-05-09 12:27 AM (#222368 - in reply to #222352)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2010-05-08 9:24 PM

For whatever reason/s, Mother Mopar thought the very conservative approach with the performance
models was the way to go. The 300 did get a few colors outside the white/off-white scope before the
original theme was abandoned. The gold trim is certainly pretty, be it the painted bits or the anodized.
It just lacks the "WOW!" factor of turquoise or coral. I'd love to have a 58 Fury, but next to anything
with color, they sure are sedate. I guess that was the look Mopar had in mind for them. If you wanted
go-fast AND color you saw your friendly Dodge dealer !


I agree,the furys did have very boring paint schemes,I've always prefered colorful cars too!
In a way it's odd they'd be so conservative with the performance models like you said.
You'd think they'd want the visual impact and flash to match the power under the hood.

That's why Lebay must have special ordered his in red and white!
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Posted 2010-05-09 12:31 AM (#222369 - in reply to #222336)
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Finsinthemirror - 2010-05-08 7:03 PM

Yeah but the Fury,300, Adventurers were rather exclusive on the suspensions, interiors and trim appointments, drivetrains too. The gold they used was anodized, not paint. A paint process would be considerably easier which is why our friend with the Adventurer in this thread painted the wheelcovers as opposed to have them re-anodized.


I know,but The 1958 Fury hubcaps I've seen have all had painted centers,guess they couldn't find anodized originals.

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Posted 2010-05-09 7:26 AM (#222381 - in reply to #222207)
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To me the Adventurer Hubcaps were just too gawdy for a car as subdued as they were in all other detail. This particular car looks very nice to me, and if there are errors in its restoration, they are only glaringly obvious to those who know the cars inside and out like Brent and Wayne. Unless it is a patched up rust bucket (easily verified) I would still consider this a sweetheart of a car! Adventurers just are cool in my book.
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Posted 2010-05-09 2:14 PM (#222410 - in reply to #222368)
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1960DesotoAdventurer - 2010-05-09 9:27 PM That's why Lebay must have special ordered his in red and white!


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Posted 2010-05-09 2:32 PM (#222412 - in reply to #222410)
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get any better than that ! I'm still cursing my poor decision in choosing parents - not going for the mega-rich tycoon
types - so I could fill the family "polo" grounds with every make, model, and paint scheme ! Dang, ...... what was I
thinking ?

As it worked out, I have to work for a living and even though I check the mailbox regularly, the trust fund cheques
never show up. Wut up wit dat ?

So, I have to be picky, and go with a select car or two that pack the most punch for the time and money, and the
colors and fabrics overrule the dual quads for me anymore. Still, that doesn't mean I don't like them !

I am truly having a rough go getting my head around the idea that a car like this is going to draw 70K. I truly am
living in the Stone Age (got rocks in my head) or there are more boneheads running around (getting MY trust fund
cheque) than I can imagine !

I am thinking that when I get the shop built and have some free time to play, I should dig out all the photos of cars
I looked at or bought back in the 70's - 90's and post them with prices asked/paid. As an example, I bought a 56
Buick Century 4HT in bright colors, excellent shape, for $325 in 1983 or so. Gave it a Saturday afternoon tune and
shine and the next weekend went out looking for more cars, where I stumbled onto a 56 Corvette - sad shape, but
all there. Asked the guy what he wanted for it. He wanted to trade the Buick straight up for it ! THAT happens
all the time today !!!!
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1960DesotoAdventurer
Posted 2010-05-09 4:52 PM (#222446 - in reply to #222207)
Subject: Re: 57 desoto adventurer



Expert

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Location: Plymouth Spaceport		QUOTE]Doctor DeSoto - 2010-05-09 2:32 PM

"I still get the lusties over Adventurers. I owned a black and gold 56 and a 58 black and gold convertible. Hard to
get any better than that ! I'm still cursing my poor decision in choosing parents - not going for the mega-rich tycoon
types - so I could fill the family "polo" grounds with every make, model, and paint scheme ! Dang, ...... what was I
thinking ? :("



Well,you could always get a girl to blackmail Tiger Woods for you! (just pick one at random from any Dennys or truck stop...chances are hes actually been with them!) but he may not be paying them to keep their silence anymore after the 200th one came out of the woodwork!:laugh:



hes got enough money to buy the best Forward Look cars on earth and what does he spend his money on? porn stars and pancake waitresses!

Edited by 1960DesotoAdventurer 2010-05-09 5:04 PM
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chrysler300c
Posted 2010-05-09 10:14 PM (#222494 - in reply to #222263)
Subject: Re: 57 desoto adventurer



Expert ,, George Passed away July 28th 2021, He will be Missed

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Location: Twin Falls, Idaho		Good analysis, Ed.... without any sour grapes. I'd take it as is in a NY minute!

George
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57desoto
Posted 2010-05-10 5:40 AM (#222516 - in reply to #222207)
Subject: Re: 57 desoto adventurer



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Location: New Castle PA		Wow, I had no idea that the original posting of this car for sale would generate all this response. As far as WHY the wheelcovers are painted, it's likely because the originals were in too bad of a condition to re-anodize. The metal, especially around the edges of the rim, is VERY thin. The "fins" can be straightened, but when the edges are too badly dinged up, you only have 2 choices -- anodize them correctly but accept the dings under the anodizing, or "fill" the dings like you would with a body filler, but then you have to paint the wheelcovers as best you can to make them look as nearly correct as you can. Often, the painting is a combination of gold and green and yellow with some metallic to make it look most like the originals.

Yes, this is a true A/C car, and as stated, the bumper guards were optional even on Adventurers.

Hey, George, I have no sour grapes!

Ed
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2010-05-10 12:57 PM (#222560 - in reply to #222446)
Subject: Re: 57 desoto adventurer



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1960DesotoAdventurer - 2010-05-10 1:52 PM


Well,you could always get a girl to blackmail Tiger Woods for you! (just pick one at random from any Dennys or truck stop...chances are hes actually been with them!) but he may not be paying them to keep their silence anymore after the 200th one came out of the woodwork!:laugh:



hes got enough money to buy the best Forward Look cars on earth and what does he spend his money on? porn stars and pancake waitresses! :wince:


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Take a good look at Tiger Woods and tell me this isn't entirely predictable. I am quite sure I am NOT clairvoyant, but most people
refuse to see the obvious. Ever heard the Mister Obvious Show ?
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d500neil
Posted 2010-05-10 2:05 PM (#222584 - in reply to #222560)
Subject: Re: 57 desoto adventurer



Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil!

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Location: bishop, ca		Expensive and/or rare cars' parts are known to have a "Viper Tax" , or a "Ferrari Tax", or a "Mitchell Motor Parts" Tax,
etc.

Fortunately, there is a company that does not charge a "MoPar Tax", and that is kingoftrim.com .

They can relatively inexpensively de-ding a fragile Adventurer wheelcover, and re-anodize it, without surcharging
the operation 'just-because'....they could.






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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2010-05-10 10:46 PM (#222690 - in reply to #222584)
Subject: Re: 57 desoto adventurer



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Location: Parts Unknown		Neil,

I want your home phone at some point when I get to working on the DeSoto. You know a lot of good
sources for services, etc. Will you be my 12 step sponsor ?

Hi, my name is Hernando, and I have a Desoto .....


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chrysler300c
Posted 2010-05-12 12:55 AM (#222896 - in reply to #222516)
Subject: Re: 57 desoto adventurer



Expert ,, George Passed away July 28th 2021, He will be Missed

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Location: Twin Falls, Idaho		Ed...
I know that. I think you misunderstood my statement. I was saying your analysis was one of the few WITHOUT sour grapes.

George
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chrysler300c
Posted 2010-05-12 12:57 AM (#222897 - in reply to #222584)
Subject: Re: 57 desoto adventurer



Expert ,, George Passed away July 28th 2021, He will be Missed

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Location: Twin Falls, Idaho		Neil...
Have you had anything done at King of Chrome lately?? Very sloppy workmanship these days. I am quite sure he is sending it out to someone else to get it done.

George
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57desoto
Posted 2010-05-12 5:25 AM (#222918 - in reply to #222207)
Subject: Re: 57 desoto adventurer



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Location: New Castle PA		Hey, George (chrysler300c)! No, I didn't mis-understand your "no sour grapes" note! I was kind of laughing in agreement with you -- we all need to have be positive, constructive, and helpful to one another in this hobby. Thank YOU for recognizing my true intention!

By the way, if anyone on the FL purchases this car, please let me know. I have had it in my 1957 DeSoto database for years, and I'd like to keep track of where it ends up...
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2010-05-12 11:58 AM (#222949 - in reply to #222918)
Subject: Re: 57 desoto adventurer



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Location: Parts Unknown		I was thinking about buying it for parts.


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57desoto
Posted 2010-05-23 8:08 AM (#224741 - in reply to #222207)
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Location: New Castle PA		Just thought I'd update you all that the car has been sold, and the buyer will be exporting it to Brazil.
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