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Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | Manual 3 speed shift
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Extremely rare for the 300 "G", was the floor shift manual transmission. I bought this car at Barrett-Jackson in the late '90's and brought it home to Colorado to hide it! The day I bought it I grabbed Gary Goers and had him take a look at it and he concurred as to the authenticity.
As you can see in the pictures, this wonderful automobile is in fine condition. I would be happy to email you tons more pictures which show how straight and nice this "Beautiful Brute" is.
The reserve is extremely low considering the rarity and condition of this classic beauty.
I respectfully request that bidders call me to discuss the car. I want you to know what you are buying. 970/227-7969.
I reserve the right to end the sale early.
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Location: Perth Australia | Nice car
$45000.00 u.s to much for me but nice car
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Location: Under the X in Texas | Sure its rare; extremely few people wanted a truck and taxi 3spd manual with non-synchro first gear and a somewhat heavy clutch in their banker's hot rod. The very few that tried to race these found out they were not a heavy duty trans behind the 375 HP torque monster long ram 413 and could be broken with little effort.
There is zero comparison between a stick 3spd 300G and a stick 4spd 300F. The 300F was a package named the Special, part of the Gran Turismo program and included a hand-built 400HP motor and full synchro Pont-a-Mousson 4speed, and headers and cam and higher compression. The stick G was nothing more than a troublesome transmission behind the stock 300 motor. No value premium for a stick G; if anything I'd deduct 10%. |
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I think it's awesome - 
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Location: bishop, ca | The undercarriage shows this to be a good driver quality car.
Rowing the non-synchro trannie, around town, probably wouldn't be a lot of fun, however.
But, & I've asked this question, before: which 60's-70's version of this 3-speed trannie was the toughest one to break
(most reliable) and/or might have had a synchronized 1st gear and/or had the closest spaced gearing, so that 'we' might
seek out that/those trannies and retrofit them onto the lame-assed trannies that got put into the FWDLk'ers?
E.G.: the 58 Fury, according to Hot Rod magazine, got an upgraded 3-speed in it; improvements to that transmission
should have kept on occurring in the later truck applications for it.
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Location: The Mile High City | Auction almost over! Did these cars have a tachometer in the center console where the clock was supposed to be? I can't tell from the photos... |
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Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | Lancer Mike - 2011-05-18 2:30 PM
Auction almost over! Did these cars have a tachometer in the center console where the clock was supposed to be? I can't tell from the photos...
Tach is in centre console, clock is on dash to the right of the radio. |
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| Wayne and Ian --
Is this the same trans that gave the Ramchargers fits in their '61 Dart Pioneer with the 413 CID mill at the 1961 NHRA Nationals?
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Location: Under the X in Texas | Sonoramic60 - 2011-05-19 12:00 PM Wayne and Ian -- Is this the same trans that gave the Ramchargers fits in their '61 Dart Pioneer with the 413 CID mill at the 1961 NHRA Nationals? Joe Godec As far as I know, YES.
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Location: Chattanooga | What transmission did the 1962 Max Wedge 3-speed cars use? |
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Location: Parts Unknown | 1958300 - 2011-05-19 7:56 PM
What transmission did the 1962 Max Wedge 3-speed cars use?
Borg-warner T-85
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Location: Chattanooga | Is that not what was in the 300-G? The Darrell Davis book "The 1960 Dodge D-500 Guide" says that the T-85 was used in the ram inducted manual transmission 1960 Dodges. I can't believe that Chrysler would put a stronger transmission in a Dodge than they would the 300-F. |
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Location: Parts Unknown | 1958300 - 2011-05-19 9:08 PM
Is that not what was in the 300-G? The Darrell Davis book "The 1960 Dodge D-500 Guide" says that the T-85 was used in the ram inducted manual transmission 1960 Dodges. I can't believe that Chrysler would put a stronger transmission in a Dodge than they would the 300-F.
For '61 Ma MoPar came up with her own heavy duty transmission - it was great on paper, but under hard shifts it
would bend the syncro pins and miss/not make shifts - mostly the throw from 1st to 2nd
The Ramchargers '61 Dodge pretty much only lost because of this transmission - if they would make the shift, they won . . .
In '62, they went back to the T-85 they used in '60 . . .
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Location: Houston | I don't agree the 3 speed is a 10% deduct. It doesn't matter much anymore that it gave troubles - it's not like people are still racing these cars. The 'cool factor' is still there.
Then, I'm not a buyer either, so my opinion doesn't mean much! |
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Location: Parts Unknown | My 60 DeSoto 3-speed was non-synchro, 1st and reverse. Was that a T-85 ? It was rough
driving in stop-n-go rush hour traffic, but otherwise fine. I learned to nurse the lower speeds
and keep it in second to avoid bringing the car almost to a dead stop to get it into 1st.
I broke 3 clutches when I first put the car together, but once I got the 12" clutch in it (the
local parts store kept selling me 10 inchers) it went like hell and I never had another issue
with it for years.
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Location: Parts Unknown | Doctor DeSoto - 2011-05-19 10:48 PM
My 60 DeSoto 3-speed was non-synchro, 1st and reverse. Was that a T-85 ? It was rough
driving in stop-n-go rush hour traffic, but otherwise fine. I learned to nurse the lower speeds
and keep it in second to avoid bringing the car almost to a dead stop to get it into 1st.
I broke 3 clutches when I first put the car together, but once I got the 12" clutch in it (the
local parts store kept selling me 10 inchers) it went like hell and I never had another issue
with it for years.
It should have been the T-85, yes |
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Location: Chicago | The 300-G transmission is the A-745 |
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Location: somerville mass |
well hesays hes got a local offer of 45000 but thinks its worth 75000
what about the zeigler 300f special daytona winner? no one will have enogh to buy thatcar if you ask me.. and what do you do with it? you cant
drive it! youll de value it? i feel it belongs in the chrysler museum. or petersen museum. and petersen will have to pony up 1 million!!! |
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Location: Parts Unknown | R41HP - 2011-05-20 12:23 PM
The 300-G transmission is the A-745
Yes - Now I have a question, is that what trans MoPar used in trucks etc as time went
on ? Did they change anything concerning the syncro pins or did it stay the same ?
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Location: central Illinois | That Zeigler 300F 4 speed sat in my father in laws building from April 1960 till the current owner bought it, around 2008.
That 3 speed shifter looks like it would be rubbing up against your leg. Wonder what it would take to put an 833 four speed in it. |
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Location: Parts Unknown | The shifter in my DeSoto was off the side like that and was "cozy", but nothing like the A-833
in my 66 Coronet. That thing IS against my calf, literally forcing my knee into an uncomfortable
position when in reverse. The DeSoto was a b!tch to go from 2nd to 1st, but other than that was
not any problem.
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Location: bishop, ca | So, when/did Chrysler ever put together a fully synchronized 3 speed (truck, obviously) trannie?
How difficult would it be to mount a T85 onto the Pre-B block engines (and with column shifting linkage)?
Ditto for the A475?
The T85 is the better trannie, huh?
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300-G 3 speed manual shift
