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Veteran Posts: 295   Location: Tallapoosa, GA | At LONG LAST!!! I got my 1957 Plymouth home after 9 long months ofsaving, scraping, etc. Leo delivered it this morning, and he isdefinitely all that folks say and more.This Plymouth came from Big M (THANK YOU, JOHN!!!!). I plan on justgetting it running/driving first before doing anything cosmetic toit. That way I can enjoy it sooner, plan on drag-racing it and callit "The Junkyard Dawg" for now.Found a 383 a couple weeks back in good shape, all tore apart, but very little wear (hopefully just needs a "freshening up"). My buddyin Wisconsin found a tranny for it out of a '64 New Yorker, driveshaft, cross member, and radiator.And now for your favorite...... PICS!!!!!!! (MVC-011S.JPG) (MVC-013S.JPG) (MVC-020S.JPG) (MVC-010S.JPG) (MVC-018S.JPG) Attachments ----------------  MVC-011S.JPG (62KB - 158 downloads) MVC-013S.JPG (57KB - 146 downloads) MVC-020S.JPG (31KB - 154 downloads) MVC-010S.JPG (56KB - 162 downloads) MVC-018S.JPG (30KB - 154 downloads) | ||
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Veteran Posts: 295 Location: Tallapoosa, GA | Dammit..... stupid website crammed my words together again. Really..I can spill and spase words cor rectly...  | ||
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Expert Posts: 2638   Location: Minor Hill, TN | Good luck with the car back in the 80s I was going to pull a 1957 from a salvage yard in Mcrae , GA and restore the car and get it running again . The trip was never made. I was 20 years old when I bought my 1st forwardlook. This is the only photo I have of my '57 but 1 night some idiot pull out infront of me and caused me to total it. I did sue but I was stupid and settled out of court. I sure as hell wont make that mistake again. (WP_20150601_001.jpg) Attachments ---------------- WP_20150601_001.jpg (209KB - 173 downloads) | ||
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Veteran Posts: 295 Location: Tallapoosa, GA | Absolutely!! And the fun HAS begun.... playing the 50s doo-wop in it via iPod, sat in her, and sprayed "That New Car Smell" to give her the same smell that my "original" 57 Belvy had. My sincerest thanks to you, John.... You made a long needed dream come true. You're the KEWLEST!!! If you ever slide down this way between Birmingham, Al and Atlanta, GA.... look me up!! I'll treat you to some steaks on the grill and some very very COLD beers!! Big M ROCKS!!!  | ||
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Veteran Posts: 295 Location: Tallapoosa, GA | Thanks Mike! Yeah, parts are getting real pricey... And 61plymouthfury, I wouldn't blame you one bit if you beat the livin' s**t outta that guy. There's no shortage of idiot drivers out there, that's for sure. | ||
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Veteran Posts: 295 Location: Tallapoosa, GA | Thanks Pete! We'll do! It's nice to see a fellow FL fan here in Georgia on this site. | ||
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Veteran Posts: 295 Location: Tallapoosa, GA | Thank You, grunau!!  | ||
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Veteran Posts: 295 Location: Tallapoosa, GA | Yesterday, I cleaned off the seat, put some cardboard to cover the holes temporarily, and threw a cheap old wool blanket over it for now. Oh, and I needed to put a couple pieces of wood on the frame to hold the seat up so I can at least sit in it. Well, today I dug out some parts I still had from my last 57 Plymouth, and put them on the car. Also tucked the "upsweep" trim pieces under the tailfin trim. Calling it a day, gonna just sit in my lawnchair in front of the car and stare at her for a while!  (MVC-002S.JPG) (MVC-003S.JPG) (MVC-015S.JPG) (MVC-011S.JPG) (MVC-016S.JPG) Attachments ---------------- MVC-002S.JPG (35KB - 165 downloads) MVC-003S.JPG (40KB - 162 downloads) MVC-015S.JPG (32KB - 153 downloads) MVC-011S.JPG (47KB - 165 downloads) MVC-016S.JPG (49KB - 146 downloads) | ||
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Veteran Posts: 295 Location: Tallapoosa, GA | No Sir!! You're not the only one.... I know exactly how I want it to look when it's 'done'. Since I only make $10/hr and 6 hours a day, I have to do it as cool as possible, but also as economical as possible too.... should be quite a trick!  It's going to be raspberry metallic (a custom mix I came up with years ago and painted a Lincoln that color...loved it).... Gold 'hockey stick', gold grill, silver bumpers and wings, custom made "Fury" emblems (1959 style), gold and white crushed velvet interior, black carpet, aluminum slot mags w white-lettered tires, cherry bomb glass packs bolted to headers, shift kit in the trans, and a torquer 383.... basically, my 'favorite' stuff all packed into one neat little Plymouth package.  | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 8445 Location: Perth Australia | I hate to be the bad guy here and I do applaud your enthusiasm, but your project has a few holes in it (so to speak) Your planning on putting a BB engine in it, pretty sure it wont bolt in without some engineering, but not impossible, the trans will be a problem if you want to keep the buttons (some floor shift might make it easier) your going to need a new diff assembly because your going to loose your park brake with the trans swap, I dont know how your going to find headers to fit, your going to have to get custom made ones and they (most likely) will have to come out into the front wheel well area (not necessarily a bad thing for a hottie) Main thing is this stuff cost bulk money I would try and get hold of a car that you could get the entire driveline out of, so you have everything there (+ extras), but for now, I would not bother about headers and try and run with stock manifolds Everything you want to do is possible, but nothing on these cars is that cheap (your income that you said is not high) and its easy to loose faith in a project when you get stalled on it for a long time because the next bit you need costs a bomb Not sure if getting a 318 poly ect would be cheaper than buying the BB and trans ect, but it might be a lot easier? Main thing is do as much research as you can on doing this and listen to those that have done it (I have not on this make/model) but have on some others There has been a couple of budget rebuilds that have been on this site and I think they would be a good read for you and a parts car will save you lots and you can try and sell off what you dont need to help fund it Oh, your not alone with sitting in old cars and dreaming of what they could be, every true car nut does it  | ||
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Veteran Posts: 295 Location: Tallapoosa, GA | No sweat, ttotired. I already did my homework on the motor and trans bit, plus I also already have both. I'm well aware that the 383 won't "bolt-in", but that's no problem. I'll probably have to cut the towers off the cross member and fab brackets that will fit. The trans is a push button out of a 64 New Yorker, no parking "brake", but it has a cable for a sprag park. I can modify the old hand brake lever to run that cable, no problem, it'll just require a little fabricating. Plus I know the trans mount won't bolt in either.... again, no sweat, as I got the cross member out of the 64 New Yorker with the mount, so I can fabricate that too. I've been messing around with these old Mopars since the early 90s, and had probably a dozen of them or so over the years. And yes, the headers will have to be modified/custom to clear the bars, steering box, and starter, etc.. I'll probably start with a used set to cut up and modify before cutting up new ones. So I've got most of the "holes" covered. The main money saver is labor.... I'm going to do all of it myself, except things I may not have the tools for, like pressing bushings in/out of the control arms, etc.. Yes, the 318 would be easier, but I don't want the easy way. I want this car to be a tire-fryer street/strip Hot-Rod!!  | ||
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Veteran Posts: 295 Location: Tallapoosa, GA | Something else I thought I'd do for y'all (and myself as a challenge) is a cost chart. And I'll add to it as this thing goes along. So, here it is so far: 1) Cost of car.................$4,500 2) Shipping....................$1,500 3) 727 PB from 64 NYorker......$ 250 4) 383 BB from 66 Plymouth.....$ 300 for a total of $6,550 so far. Yep, I better keep this one!  | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 8445 Location: Perth Australia | I can see your dedicated and I will be watching with interest If I can help, please ask, but my mopar experience is more with the cars in my signature and not so much with the specifics of those from before You might want to consider buying a press, many uses, not just bearings ect, but steel forming as well and they are not that expensive If you read the build from my dodge, you will see that I basically did everything myself, just took some inspiration from the guys on here and the balls to have a go (and money) Being in Australia, I had mega freight costs to deal with as well, which (I estimate) were about 1/2 of the cost of doing it | ||
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Veteran Posts: 295 Location: Tallapoosa, GA | Thanks ttotired!! And yes, the guys on here are awesome! Any parts or tech tips I should be able to easily find here. | ||
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Veteran Posts: 295 Location: Tallapoosa, GA | Oh, absolutely, polybun... the 318 IS a fantastic motor with lots of potential, capable of frying tires too.... Okay, I need to explain the 'method of my madness' here I guess. I plan on putting this car together in a very special way. A year ago I thought I was all done with the old car hobby, sold my Charger and Lincoln vert, and I thought that was it. Until, I watched the last car go (Charger), and felt my heart sink...  It was the first time since I was 18 that I didn't have a classic car. SO! I decided to stick with just ONE old car.... pick my favorite and put all my favorite stuff in and on it from all these years of having old cars (since 1989). And thus, favorite car was a 57 Plymouth I bought back in '92, ran and drove, Belvy 2dr HT gold/white, loved it, loved the PB trans and had "that new car smell" spray in the glovebox, and was the first smell I got when I sat in her (was also my first FL car). Loved the bumper wings too.. gave her a nice look. Favorite engine was in a '69 Road Runner I had a few years later. It had an RV cam in it, Torquer II intake, and a 3:91 sure-grip. A mild shift kit, and snappy as hell, I kept tearing motor mounts from stomping on it and peeling out. I finally chained the engine down, as the stock mounts wouldn't hold her down. God I had fun with that thing, BUT it wasn't my favorite CAR... Interior... the best interior I ever saw was in a '58 Olds; all crushed velved including the headliner, very nicely done and in a very tasteful tri-tone way. SO, crushed velvet interior it's going to be. I found rolls of the stuff on ebay... and it's CHEAP! Gold/White, and I may jazz the seats up with a touch of black, but we'll see... that's a long ways away yet. Favorite paint, wheels, tires, exhaust. My favorite paint was as I stated in a previous post, raspberry metallic that I had mixed custom for a '71 Lincoln Mark III I painted back in '02. Favorite wheels are the classic aluminum slots, and white lettered tires you'd find on a muscle car. Favorite exhaust- headers and glass packs. All these things are my 'favs', but I didn't have them all on my favorite CAR. That's why all those vehicles got sold... something just wasn't quite right with them. I'm even going to do a little custom painting on the front of the hood under the "PLYMOUTH" letters, top of the fins from the trim to nearly the doors, and some between the '58 taillights in silver. I hope this clarifies what I'm doing with this car. It is to be a culmination of all my favorite experiences I've had in the old car hobby since the very beginning, all put together in one neat little package. | ||
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Veteran Posts: 295 Location: Tallapoosa, GA | Hey Buddy!!! Thanks, man!! Yeah, I miss those days too.... drag racing at WIR, air-borning that 58 Belvedere over the RR tracks in front of Sadoff at 40mph, when my 5th avenue couldn't even take those tracks at 15mph... And all those brake stands with that 'ole 59 Dodge I did, and peeling handfuls of rubber chunks out of the wheel-wells. Ah...those were the days. Can you believe it; that was 23 years ago?!?  Well, time has proven that the "itch" doesn't go away..... and there's only ONE cure!! See what you started? Great to see you on here, Buddy!! I'll call ya in a bit. | ||
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Veteran Posts: 295 Location: Tallapoosa, GA | Today I jacked up the a$$ end and buzzed the rear wheels off. The left side brake drum plate spins independent of the drum 'ring', like the welds broke (or rusted) loose, so I'll need one of those. And, just for giggles, I thought I'd try a crack at pulling the rear drums. One kotter key broke, but the other popped right out, and both retainer nuts buzzed right off. I tried a puller I've had for several years, but never used. Stripped the threads on it the first pull attempt....total POS. So, I guess I'll be buying one of those 3-legged pullers so many speak so highly of here on this site! But, while I was under there, I figured I'd spray up the gas tank bolts and let 'em soak a while so I can drop it as soon as I can get into the trunk. Man, those leaf springs are shot too...woof.... I don't think I have ever seen such a negative arch before...but wait! Maybe I can just flip them over and use them another 50 years....... ....right? Calling it a day, gotta work tomorrow, but I think I'll still sit outside and admire it with a cup of coffee and a smoke. (MVC-002S.JPG) (MVC-003S.JPG) (MVC-005S.JPG) (MVC-006S.JPG) (MVC-001Sl.JPG) Attachments ---------------- MVC-002S.JPG (46KB - 157 downloads) MVC-003S.JPG (45KB - 156 downloads) MVC-005S.JPG (44KB - 149 downloads) MVC-006S.JPG (31KB - 150 downloads) MVC-001Sl.JPG (56KB - 166 downloads) | ||
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Veteran Posts: 295 Location: Tallapoosa, GA | That's a great idea, 57DODGECONV. Rain coming on the radar, so I had to cover the windshield with poly, and I managed to install a McGraw Edison street light for night time lighting while working on her. Weather permitting, I'm gonna yank out some stuff to put in a box for working on in rainy weather indoors, such as blower motor, wiper motor, switches, etc.... but for now.... (MVC-002S.JPG) (MVC-003S.JPG) (MVC-004S.JPG) Attachments ---------------- MVC-002S.JPG (33KB - 142 downloads) MVC-003S.JPG (55KB - 158 downloads) MVC-004S.JPG (44KB - 165 downloads) | ||
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Veteran Posts: 295 Location: Tallapoosa, GA | Removed the poly from the windshield after work to let it air out...(pic shows large cracks in the gasket). Also found lotsa new cobwebs inside, so I decided to soak it with VIPER bugspray to wipe out the critters (one I saw was a large black widow), and opened the doors to let the stuff dry. If anyone has a critter problem, I highly recommend VIPER... comes in a concentrate bottle (commercial grade stuff), and I mix it stronger than needs to be, use a weed sprayer, and it works when it dries. Still working great on my home 4 years later. Safe for pets, etc, it's good stuff. | ||
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Veteran Posts: 295 Location: Tallapoosa, GA | Oooops, forgot the pics..... You know, an old timer once told me that the memory is the first thing to go, but he couldn't remember what the second thing was! (MVC-006S.JPG) (MVC-005S.JPG) (MVC-007S.JPG) Attachments ---------------- MVC-006S.JPG (28KB - 157 downloads) MVC-005S.JPG (45KB - 154 downloads) MVC-007S.JPG (56KB - 166 downloads) | ||
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Veteran Posts: 295 Location: Tallapoosa, GA | PM sent! I did promise Big M that I'd purchase his 58 lower grill after the holidays, but there are some things it needs that he doesn't have. Plus, there are other things I need that I bought from a guy in Ohio who has shafted me so far (probably will go to court), so I'll need to re-buy that stuff... Thanks Oldwood!! | ||
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Veteran Posts: 295 Location: Tallapoosa, GA | Tonight was one of those, as "fenix" said...... six pack on the seat, rub her steering wheel and dash like Arnie, oldies playing so darn loud in the house I'm surprised the cops weren't called, and petting her as I dreamed of how she'll be revived... Times like these are just as rewarding as when a car is totally finished.... maybe even more to some extent. | ||
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Veteran Posts: 295 Location: Tallapoosa, GA | Thanks, Marc!! | ||
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 13062 Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | cbrayinga - 2015-12-20 12:14 AM Tonight was one of those, as "fenix" said...... six pack on the seat, rub her steering wheel and dash like Arnie, oldies playing so darn loud in the house I'm surprised the cops weren't called, and petting her as I dreamed of how she'll be revived... Times like these are just as rewarding as when a car is totally finished.... maybe even more to some extent. :inlove: Cool that you will save that ride. We have a word for sitting in the car and dreaming away "Dry driving" That's something that many of us here in Sweden does during the long winter, just sitting in the car with the stereo on and dreaming about roadtrips to come! | ||
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Veteran Posts: 295 Location: Tallapoosa, GA | Dry Driving.... That's cool! I'll be doing lotsa that for sure!! Thanks wizard. And, Merry Christmas Day to you too, Marc!! | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9746 Location: So. Cal | That's funny. I used to do the same thing in my '68 Barracuda when I was 16, before I got the hemi motor installed. One time I was sitting there with a friend, turning the steering wheel and shifting, when my mother's friend came up to us and asked us what we were doing. I told her, "About 90mph!". | ||
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Veteran Posts: 295 Location: Tallapoosa, GA | Uncle Finny - 2015-12-21 11:51 AM Dry Driving..... I hadn't heard it put that way before, but I've done that a few times. It sure is easier on the tires, but it's just not the same. Maybe next time I'll try burning a Goodyear tire smoke candle or something. That "Goodyear Candle" is a great idea!! I think you got some- thing there, Uncle Finny!! Rain, Rain, Rain, Rain this week, so I figured I'd post some pics of the 383 engine I bought a few weeks back. I can barely catch a little ridge with my fingernail at the top of the cylinder walls, and there is ALMOST no scuffing on the pistons, bearings even look good. This is definitely the way to buy an engine.... you can REALLY see what you're buying. It came outta a '66 Plymouth, and has had some work done to it, as I noticed that the oil holes on the crank have been chamfered, and a "mystery" cam in it. I'm not going to even try to use it, as I have no idea the lift/duration.... so carbing it would be a crap-shoot. That's okay, cuz I just toss it on the seat of my truck and tell people that I got a hot Mopar cam in my Ford, and it fit no problem.... They say.. "WHAT???!!!", Yep fits right in, but didn't make any difference in performance... When they're really perplexed, I take it out, show it to them, then say..."see? it fits right in!" as I toss it on the seat. Then I usually get a really stupid look! LOL... And, the 383, seeing as how I don't have a shop or even a garage, it needs to sit on the stand covered with a 55gal contractor's bag with some plywood on top to keep the rain off.... TOTALLY shade-tree mechanic!! But, I did manage to slop a ton of vasoline on the cylinder walls, pistons, and gasket rails, and that seems to be working VERY well.... including the crank journals, etc. So far, NO surface rust at all. Here's some pics.... and y'all have a Forward Look Christmas!!! | ||
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Veteran Posts: 295 Location: Tallapoosa, GA | PICS..... darn internet kicked out with the heavy rain (satellite) (MVC-001S.JPG) (MVC-002S.JPG) (MVC-003S.JPG) (MVC-005S.JPG) (MVC-006S.JPG) (MVC-007S.JPG) (MVC-009S.JPG) (MVC-008S.JPG) Attachments ---------------- MVC-001S.JPG (58KB - 153 downloads) MVC-002S.JPG (33KB - 147 downloads) MVC-003S.JPG (28KB - 170 downloads) MVC-005S.JPG (43KB - 159 downloads) MVC-006S.JPG (28KB - 158 downloads) MVC-007S.JPG (32KB - 153 downloads) MVC-009S.JPG (56KB - 150 downloads) MVC-008S.JPG (45KB - 142 downloads) | ||
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Veteran Posts: 295 Location: Tallapoosa, GA | Yep, that flag is upside down to illustrate "extreme danger"!! I put it that way years ago because our country IS in a state of extreme distress.... (and I don't think I have to explain why..) Y'all have already done the math on that. All is OK here for now, but if 'we-the-people' don't get contol of this country back, the crooks and globalists will run it the rest of the way into the ground.... y'all know what I'm talkin' about, I'm sure! | ||
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