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My new project- 58 D500 - single or dual carbs originally??
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alaskaracer
Posted 2015-09-14 2:17 PM (#489620)
Subject: My new project- 58 D500 - single or dual carbs originally??


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any 58 Dodge experts here?



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60 dart
Posted 2015-09-14 2:37 PM (#489621 - in reply to #489620)
Subject: Re: My new project- 58 D500 - single or dual carbs originally??



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alaskaracer
Posted 2015-09-14 2:39 PM (#489622 - in reply to #489620)
Subject: Re: My new project- 58 D500 - single or dual carbs originally??


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so - how do I tell if it was a super D???
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2015-09-14 3:52 PM (#489628 - in reply to #489622)
Subject: Re: My new project- 58 D500 - single or dual carbs originally??



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Location: The Mile High City		I am not too familiar with the Los Angeles data tags, but if the EW code is for engines, the 4 underneath could indicate a Super D-500 option. The easy way to tell is if it has a dual quad intake under the hood. Absent the engine or exhaust manifold, if the passenger side exhaust manifold is still in place, the Super D-500 had a heat tube exchange where the D-500 did not.
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2015-09-14 3:55 PM (#489629 - in reply to #489628)
Subject: Re: My new project- 58 D500 - single or dual carbs originally??



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Location: The Mile High City		By the way, fantastic car! more pictures please!
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alaskaracer
Posted 2015-09-14 3:57 PM (#489631 - in reply to #489620)
Subject: Re: My new project- 58 D500 - single or dual carbs originally??


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Missing intake
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alaskaracer
Posted 2015-09-14 3:59 PM (#489632 - in reply to #489620)
Subject: Re: My new project- 58 D500 - single or dual carbs originally??


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<p>Lots of options- power windows and seat - rear defrost and speakers - ps and brakes</p>
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mikes2nd
Posted 2015-09-14 4:08 PM (#489635 - in reply to #489620)
Subject: Re: My new project- 58 D500 - single or dual carbs originally??


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passenger side exhaust manifold ?
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alaskaracer
Posted 2015-09-14 4:33 PM (#489637 - in reply to #489620)
Subject: RE: My new project- 58 D500 - single or dual carbs originally??


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now dont see attachment - 

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alaskaracer
Posted 2015-09-14 4:35 PM (#489638 - in reply to #489620)
Subject: RE: My new project- 58 D500 - single or dual carbs originally??


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try again



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Lancer Mike
Posted 2015-09-14 5:36 PM (#489646 - in reply to #489638)
Subject: RE: My new project- 58 D500 - single or dual carbs originally??



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Location: The Mile High City		Looks like the standard exhaust manifold. You can see the little port on the passenger side exhaust manifold of the Super D-500 (ignore the 1959 valve cover decal).



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jimntempe
Posted 2015-09-14 6:42 PM (#489652 - in reply to #489620)
Subject: Re: My new project- 58 D500 - single or dual carbs originally??



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christine-lover
Posted 2015-09-14 8:59 PM (#489657 - in reply to #489652)
Subject: Re: My new project- 58 D500 - single or dual carbs originally??



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Location: Sept. 1958		Your car was painted all Crimson. Unusual to see that. Good luck and post some more photos. Where are you located?

That exhaust manifold is for a single four barrel setup.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2015-09-14 10:57 PM (#489668 - in reply to #489620)
Subject: Re: My new project- 58 D500 - single or dual carbs originally??


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are you the guy advertising all over Alaska craigslist looking for mopars?

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alaskaracer
Posted 2015-09-15 2:55 AM (#489684 - in reply to #489620)
Subject: Re: My new project- 58 D500 - single or dual carbs originally??


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I usually have a Mopar want ad up.
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1960fury
Posted 2015-09-15 8:04 AM (#489705 - in reply to #489684)
Subject: Re: My new project- 58 D500 - single or dual carbs originally??



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Swept57
Posted 2015-09-15 10:35 AM (#489719 - in reply to #489620)
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2015-09-15 11:11 AM (#489720 - in reply to #489620)
Subject: RE: My new project- 58 D500 - single or dual carbs originally??



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Location: The Mile High City		So maybe the EW is "electric windows" and has the 4 code
One of the 3s under M1 and M2 might be the power seat
The 1 under M5 might be undercoating
Perhaps the other 3 under M1 and M2 is the Torqueflite transmission.

What color is the interior?
I don't think I have seen a 274 before.
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2015-09-15 11:25 AM (#489722 - in reply to #489620)
Subject: RE: My new project- 58 D500 - single or dual carbs originally??



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Location: The Mile High City

Your car probably has the safety options group and the bumper appearance options group, among others.
It has the optional dual rear antennae and Solex glass.

When you get a chance, reach up under the dash on the passenger side and feel around on the top side of the cardboard glove box.
There may be a Dodge production broadcast sheet taped up there. If so, it will have a ton of coded information!

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=41650&posts=24&highlight=1958 dodge&highlightmode=1#M462386

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alaskaracer
Posted 2015-09-15 1:01 PM (#489728 - in reply to #489620)
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I live in Kenai Alaska.
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alaskaracer
Posted 2015-09-15 1:02 PM (#489729 - in reply to #489620)
Subject: RE: My new project- 58 D500 - single or dual carbs originally??


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more pics



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alaskaracer
Posted 2015-09-15 1:09 PM (#489730 - in reply to #489620)
Subject: RE: My new project- 58 D500 - single or dual carbs originally??


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parked awhile



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oldwood
Posted 2015-09-15 3:09 PM (#489746 - in reply to #489730)
Subject: Re: My new project- 58 D500 - single or dual carbs originally??


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Location: little rock, AR		NICE. Looks pretty solid also. Get it running before you tear it all apart.
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2015-09-15 3:33 PM (#489751 - in reply to #489729)
Subject: RE: My new project- 58 D500 - single or dual carbs originally??



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Location: The Mile High City		Fantastic, Jeff:

The original seats look like they are right under the covers - and they might be in pretty good shape!

On the rear speakers: the passenger side "speaker" is actually the defogger intake, the driver side is the rear shelf speaker.

It looks like you might be missing the intake and carb, radio, radiator, bumper tie bar, and the exhaust deflectors. The hood and fender may have come from a Coronet, yours should have hood ornaments, driver fender mirror, and gold anodized aluminum "dodge" block letters.

THIS IS A GREAT CAR! Good score!

looks like the 3,118th of 6,288 Custom Royals to roll out of the Los Angeles plant.

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alaskaracer
Posted 2015-09-15 10:36 PM (#489773 - in reply to #489620)
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Don't think this motor will run until the pistons are knocked out and motor gets a full rebuild. Probably a newer motor and trans. Any recommendations on ordering patch panels? Andy Auto Sport or Classic 2 Current Fabrication are the 2 that popped up on my search. Missing the "lancer" on pass side. Any common MOPAR SPINDLES work for a disc brake swap? Any ideas on how many were actually built like mine - with D500 option? Aren't the power windows and seat fairly rare?
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alaskaracer
Posted 2015-09-15 10:39 PM (#489774 - in reply to #489620)
Subject: RE: My new project- 58 D500 - single or dual carbs originally??


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what electrical part is missing? goes beside voltage regulator
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alaskaracer
Posted 2015-09-15 10:51 PM (#489775 - in reply to #489620)
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alaskaracer
Posted 2015-09-15 10:53 PM (#489776 - in reply to #489620)
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60 dart
Posted 2015-09-16 12:09 AM (#489784 - in reply to #489620)
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA		4 post solenoid ? ---------------------------------------------later

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alaskaracer
Posted 2015-09-16 12:41 AM (#489788 - in reply to #489620)
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maybe - this thing even has a CLOCK
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alaskaracer
Posted 2015-09-16 12:44 AM (#489789 - in reply to #489620)
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one more try on pic



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Lancer Mike
Posted 2015-09-16 2:31 PM (#489824 - in reply to #489789)
Subject: RE: My new project- 58 D500 - single or dual carbs originally??



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Location: The Mile High City		I agree with Chuck. solenoid.
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2015-09-16 2:39 PM (#489825 - in reply to #489773)
Subject: Re: My new project- 58 D500 - single or dual carbs originally??



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alaskaracer - 2015-09-15 8:36 PM

Don't think this motor will run until the pistons are knocked out and motor gets a full rebuild. Probably a newer motor and trans. Any recommendations on ordering patch panels? Andy Auto Sport or Classic 2 Current Fabrication are the 2 that popped up on my search. Missing the "lancer" on pass side. Any common MOPAR SPINDLES work for a disc brake swap? Any ideas on how many were actually built like mine - with D500 option? Aren't the power windows and seat fairly rare?


If at all possible, stick with the original motor. A significant portion of the value in this car is in the D500 option - a newer motor will ding the car. But, if it has to happen, it has to happen.

Stay well away from ClassicParts4U panels. You are better off to have a shop fabricate the panels from scratch.

7,617 361 c.i.d. engines produced in 1958 for Dodge (includes all D500 and Super D500) - power windows and seat are rare options!
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Posted 2015-09-17 1:22 AM (#489876 - in reply to #489825)
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Location: Parts Unknown		Power seat and windows are quite unusual on a Dodge, even a top-of-the-line
Custom Royal. I have seen only a handful in nearly 40 years.
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