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Who else found the VIN inside the back of the front seat?
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mikes2nd
Posted 2015-09-01 2:32 PM (#488549)
Subject: Who else found the VIN inside the back of the front seat?


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Maybe this is a Canadian thing?

When I was cutting the ratty seats apart, I found a spare vin tag (matching of course) inside the seat back.

Anyone else ever have this happen?

Just wanted to confirm.
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Swept57
Posted 2015-09-03 7:59 AM (#488783 - in reply to #488549)
Subject: Re: Who else found the VIN inside the back of the front seat?



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You mean it is an identical tag to the one on the pillar? If so I am surprised they would stamp more than one.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2015-09-03 8:02 AM (#488784 - in reply to #488549)
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Yes in the front seat back.

Edited by mikes2nd 2015-09-03 8:03 AM
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jimntempe
Posted 2015-09-03 7:39 PM (#488837 - in reply to #488549)
Subject: Re: Who else found the VIN inside the back of the front seat?



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Makes me wonder when the plates are stamped. As soon as the first piece of metal goes on the assembly line or do they stamp them toward the end at the point where they attach them to the car?
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ttotired
Posted 2015-09-03 10:13 PM (#488846 - in reply to #488549)
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Kind of strange

Because of the sequence number, I thought they just stamped out a series of tags and had them sitting there ready to go as the next one came along

I wonder if someone (later in the cars life) lost the tag and a new one was made (by A G Backeast?) by someone

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mikes2nd
Posted 2015-09-04 12:20 AM (#488859 - in reply to #488549)
Subject: Re: Who else found the VIN inside the back of the front seat?


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no this was original interior, 58 Canadian belvedere
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Chrycoman
Posted 2015-09-04 4:02 AM (#488867 - in reply to #488859)
Subject: Re: Who else found the VIN inside the back of the front seat?



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Interesting it landed up inside the seat. Not much good verifying the serial number if you have to take the seat apart to find another VIN tag. And if someone swapped seats it would land up in another car. Also, the seats were made by a contractor, not Chrysler.

Someone made a mistake and appears to have made another tag to replace it.

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mikes2nd
Posted 2015-09-04 8:07 AM (#488876 - in reply to #488549)
Subject: Re: Who else found the VIN inside the back of the front seat?


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I had both tags, one on the door and one in the seat back. Both the same number, im getting pics.
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mikes2nd
Posted 2015-09-08 12:31 PM (#489244 - in reply to #488549)
Subject: RE: Who else found the VIN inside the back of the front seat?


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Here is the vin tag in the seat, the seat back was intact with no stitching looked original.

Its painted black to match the frame also. I didn't notice it easily. Holes on both ends, crimped with a hog ring.

I guess it was a Canadian thing or aftermarket?





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ttotired
Posted 2015-09-08 5:40 PM (#489263 - in reply to #488549)
Subject: Re: Who else found the VIN inside the back of the front seat?



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Thats different to a vin tag though, it does not have the edging on it

My rear seat had/has a tag on it, but I dont think it was the vin, I think it was a part number (cant remember now)

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Chrycoman
Posted 2015-09-09 1:58 AM (#489294 - in reply to #488549)
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I have seen part numbers on seats. Trying to make out the VIN on the tag. The top row should be four letters and numbers, and the lower four or five numbers.

Just does not make sense to have a VIN tag attached to the seat where no one can see it. At least not without taking the seat apart. Being hidden the tag would have been placed on the seat at the factory of the firm making seats for Chrysler Canada, and not at the Windsor assembly plant.

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b5rt
Posted 2015-09-09 9:32 AM (#489315 - in reply to #488549)
Subject: Re: Who else found the VIN inside the back of the front seat?



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I doubt it's that unusual, part of the manufacturing process. Most likely the seat department tags the frame based on paperwork they've received. Easier to attach a metal tag than keep a paper along with it as the frame was transported from metal assembly to cloth assembly. The assemblers would check the number to a list and know which pattern to send with it.

I'll have mine apart in a few months and see what's in there. I'm betting a similar tag. I'm curious if it's aluminum as the tag on the post or steel.
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soiouz
Posted 2015-09-09 9:48 AM (#489317 - in reply to #488549)
Subject: RE: Who else found the VIN inside the back of the front seat?



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That is definitely the part number tag for the seat frame. I have seen the same tag in all my Canadian cars and seat frames.


Here's a couple of pics of the same tag in my '59 Dodge Mayfair:

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Chrycoman
Posted 2015-09-09 5:24 PM (#489337 - in reply to #488549)
Subject: Re: Who else found the VIN inside the back of the front seat?



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Yes, now that tag I have seen on the seats of my 1962 and 1965 Valiants. My LA-built Lancer also had tags with the part number, and one (paper tag) with the name of the company that built the seats.

No serial numbers / VIN, though.
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