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Paul Hettick
Posted 2015-06-25 9:49 AM (#482731)
Subject: cooling system emptying itself.


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Did some maintenance on my v8 57 savoy. Radiator rodded out removed freeze plugs flushed water jackets then new freeze plugs. New water pump. New 180 thermostat. Now the cooling system pumps over a gallon of coolant out the rad overflow tube before the engine is fully warmed up.have tried a new rad cap and a good tried and true cap off my 57 belvedere. Any ideas guys?
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miquelonbrad
Posted 2015-06-25 11:05 AM (#482740 - in reply to #482731)
Subject: RE: cooling system emptying itself.



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Sounds like something is over pressurizing. Is the thermostat installed the correct way, not upside down? When you cleaned the passages, maybe some junk came loose, and plugged up the water pump or housing?
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Paul Hettick
Posted 2015-06-25 7:15 PM (#482776 - in reply to #482731)
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Thanks for the input. The thermostat is in correct. I did ask my radiator guy about it and said I bet you have a Napa thermostat in it. Yes was my answer. He says they stick frequently and to get one from O'Reillys. Going to try that out tomorrow.
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fenix
Posted 2015-06-25 8:58 PM (#482783 - in reply to #482731)
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boil some water with the thermostat and a thermometer in it, see if and where it opens.
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ruchaven
Posted 2015-06-26 11:29 AM (#482840 - in reply to #482731)
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They are not that expensive, get a new one.

Catch ya later.
Thank a vet.
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lonesome mopar
Posted 2015-06-26 12:43 PM (#482843 - in reply to #482840)
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<p>This is a thing that happens every time the cooling circuit is opened ( change of a head gasket, replacing the thermostat and so on) You simply need to leave the engine running without the cap on the radiator until the water reach its operating temperature. then the thermostat opens and gulps out one or two times, expelling all the air out of the circuit. After that the cap is put back on the rad and everything runs normally. Alternatively, you can drill a very thin hole in the side of the thermostat body, so that there is a "bypass" for any air trapped. (this is what I have done) But this does slow the time for the engine to reach the operating temp.</p>

Edited by lonesome mopar 2015-06-26 12:45 PM
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Paul Hettick
Posted 2015-06-27 12:01 AM (#482909 - in reply to #482731)
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I've done that several times.
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Beltran
Posted 2015-06-27 11:48 AM (#482945 - in reply to #482731)
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What is the pressure stamp on the radiator cap? 7? 13?
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jimntempe
Posted 2015-06-27 5:18 PM (#482975 - in reply to #482731)
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Sounds a bit like a head gasket gone bad. Esp if it's doing this before it's even fully warmed up. I'd be inclined to remove the thermostat, leave the radiator end of the upper hose off and start the car and see if the water pump is pumping. If there isn't good flow the impeller might have come loose from the shaft. If it is pumping whatever seems "normal", I'd top up the radiator, then pull the lower hose and verify that you get a good whoose of water draining out. reconnect the top hose, bottom hose still off, then try filling the radiator with a garden hose. My experience with such an attempt is that a good flowing radiator is pretty hard to "fill" with the bottom hose off, not necessarily impossible, but it takes a while. If you can easily "fill" the radiator perhaps a lot of the tubes have gotten clogged or got soldered up when you had it redone. You could even disconnect both hoses and reverse flush it from the bottom. Since it's pumping a gallon of water into the overflow it seems likely that either the water pump is working and something is clogged and/or the wp isn't working and the engine is getting too hot due to no coolant flow and then boiling out the coolant. Or the HG went bad.
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Paul Hettick
Posted 2015-06-28 7:43 PM (#483057 - in reply to #482731)
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The thermostat appears to have been the issue.
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jimntempe
Posted 2015-06-28 8:09 PM (#483062 - in reply to #482731)
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That's too easy!!
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Polybun
Posted 2015-06-28 9:28 PM (#483073 - in reply to #482731)
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Get yourself one of these, and never need to replace one again for the wrest of your life! Robert shaw supplied the OEM units in some mopar engines. These are super nice valves, respond quickly, and flow like hell when they need too. When you get them, you'll notice right away that the design is pretty different from el cheapo made in china ones.
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Paul Hettick
Posted 2015-06-28 9:48 PM (#483075 - in reply to #482731)
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Cool I will do that! Hate to have one of the cheapo ones fail while on a road trip.
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