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PolaraPaul
Posted 2011-08-14 10:51 PM (#284677)
Subject: 1961 Chrysler NewYorker Convertible


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I just finished frame off restoration. I have taken to a couple local car shows. Enjoy



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d500neil
Posted 2011-08-14 11:09 PM (#284678 - in reply to #284677)
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Boy/Man/What-ever....that car is gorgeous, but its color begs the question; what color(s) was it, originally?





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christine-lover
Posted 2011-08-15 5:41 PM (#284785 - in reply to #284677)
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That is beautiful...What a car! Nice work!
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dougruffner
Posted 2011-08-15 6:36 PM (#284792 - in reply to #284677)
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Sensational. I was alive when this car was built but very young. Growing up, I don't remember ever seeing exotic mopar ragtops like it. I guess they disappeared from the roads and used cars lots before I was old enough to make note of them. Glad some of them are being preserved for future generations to appreciate.



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StillOutThere
Posted 2011-08-15 7:43 PM (#284799 - in reply to #284677)
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PolaraPaul - 2011-08-14 9:51 PM I just finished frame off restoration. I have taken to a couple local car shows. Enjoy

Sorry to be picky but I am always curious when someone says they did a "frame off restoration" of a car that is unibody construction (has no continuous frame).    Could you explain that please?

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PolaraPaul
Posted 2011-08-15 7:53 PM (#284803 - in reply to #284677)
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See attached pictures that should answer questions on extent of rotisserie restoration, front frame off.



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imopar380
Posted 2011-08-15 8:17 PM (#284806 - in reply to #284677)
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Beautiful car Paul - 60-61 Chryslers / my favorite
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b5rt
Posted 2011-08-15 8:32 PM (#284811 - in reply to #284677)
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You get tired of it taking up room in your garage... I'll make room.
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soiouz
Posted 2011-08-15 8:49 PM (#284815 - in reply to #284677)
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Stunning car! Congratulations!!
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Matador Man
Posted 2011-08-18 12:58 AM (#285169 - in reply to #284677)
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Another top restoration guys looks great.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2011-08-18 6:55 AM (#285186 - in reply to #285169)
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Is it an original red car ?
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hemidenis
Posted 2011-08-18 5:22 PM (#285250 - in reply to #284677)
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Actually it was a red shade that year called "Mardi gras red"
Personally, I never saw a red New Yorker, only Newports and Windsors. This car is stunning; I would like to see the engine a bit better.
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hemidenis
Posted 2011-08-18 5:25 PM (#285255 - in reply to #284677)
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the plate code was PP-1
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d500neil
Posted 2011-08-18 5:49 PM (#285263 - in reply to #285255)
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PP-1 : Mardi Gras Red!

Denis, do you know its TRM code, as well?




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Adventurer 60
Posted 2011-08-22 9:42 AM (#285700 - in reply to #284677)
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Wow! It is like twin sister to my Yorker exept brighter colour




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sidesho_bob1961
Posted 2011-08-22 5:52 PM (#285752 - in reply to #284677)
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Beautiful car........you got something to be proud of there..........
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b5rt
Posted 2011-08-22 6:51 PM (#285763 - in reply to #284677)
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Gorgeous! But then I'm a sucker for red cars.
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Posted 2011-08-23 8:16 PM (#285929 - in reply to #285763)
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Super cool car. I love it!
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Adventurer 60
Posted 2011-08-25 2:43 AM (#286146 - in reply to #284677)
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This pics are taken in 2003. I still havent had time to instal right side mirror, antenna, and AC stuff even I got them now.



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hemidenis
Posted 2011-08-25 5:20 PM (#286203 - in reply to #284677)
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Really nice car, wonder what's with the voltage regulator and the washer bag?
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imopar380
Posted 2011-08-25 6:13 PM (#286213 - in reply to #284677)
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I've never seen the regulator mounted ahead of the core support, either.
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Adventurer 60
Posted 2011-08-26 2:35 AM (#286262 - in reply to #284677)
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Welll Voltage regulator you see is just a cover that hides electronic regulator.
It´s there because it was too big to be mounted to the original place.
Washer tank hides electronic ignition box but now there is original bag. Needed that for inspection back then. (it had to work)
I want my cars to be reliable, I have a loong ride to every meet or show I drive, becouse of my location, so it should be ready to drive to WW III and back.
I do not want have charging or ignition problems and I havent had. So thats why I make these kinda up-dates. I cant fool you hiding them, but I can most of the people I have driven over 16.000 miles since resto.

I have also added H4 headlights and fuses and relays for them. Also added extra fuses to several functions, for example 60A fuse for the power seat, that was right after when one fellow burnt his 1960 New Yorker convertible in short cut of that pench wire. Luckly it destroyed only the interior, not whole car, carage and house.
Sure all of them are hided that you cant see them, so I got a sticker "extra fuses and relays" in clove comparment telling location and amps.

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Posted 2011-08-26 9:04 AM (#286276 - in reply to #286262)
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Adventurer 60 - 2011-08-26 1:35 AM Welll Voltage regulator you see is just a cover that hides electronic regulator. It´s there because it was too big to be mounted to the original place. Washer tank hides electronic ignition box but now there is original bag. Needed that for inspection back then. (it had to work) I want my cars to be reliable, I have a loong ride to every meet or show I drive, becouse of my location, so it should be ready to drive to WW III and back. I do not want have charging or ignition problems and I havent had. So thats why I make these kinda up-dates. I cant fool you hiding them, but I can most of the people I have driven over 16.000 miles since resto. I have also added H4 headlights and fuses and relays for them. Also added extra fuses to several functions, for example 60A fuse for the power seat, that was right after when one fellow burnt his 1960 New Yorker convertible in short cut of that pench wire. Luckly it destroyed only the interior, not whole car, carage and house. Sure all of them are hided that you cant see them, so I got a sticker "extra fuses and relays" in clove comparment telling location and amps.

Interesting. Great minds think alike I see. I put an alternator in my DeSoto to replace the generator and an MP electronic distributor in the 383 B-block to eliminate charging system trouble or need for tune-ups and I have been satisfied with these small improvements.  The electronic voltage regulator I mounted in the same spot on the left splash shield as was used for the original 3-relay mechanical unit by the factory. I didn't bother to hide the upgrade, although I could have put an electronic unit inside a shell made up to look like one of the old style units I suppose. The electronic control for the distributor I mounted on the radiator support, but I put it on the engine side. There was enough room to mount it away from any source of heat and it has performed reliably.

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imopar380
Posted 2011-08-26 3:29 PM (#286304 - in reply to #286276)
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I can relate to charging issues....and long trips.... On the night before we left with the Saratoga for the WPC National Meet in Sacramento in '09, which was a 900 mile drive, the charging system began to overcharge way high. We were leaving on the first ferry off the island here next morning, and had no time to go searching for a new regulator, so I ran with the headlights on and the A/C running and it finally settled down to normal charging once we got about a half hour of driving on the other side. It was fine the rest of the entire trip including the way home, but I did buy a new regulator, however it was the original type. I've put 13,000 miles on the car in the 3 years we've owned it.
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Adventurer 60
Posted 2011-08-26 4:29 PM (#286310 - in reply to #284677)
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I really recommend upgrading ignition and charging, even brakes. You can feel more relax when you are cruising 500 miles from home with out all your tools and spare parts. If you just keep your car at the carage keep it 100% original.
In our country there is special type registration for the original or restored vehicles over 30 years. No taxes or tolls and the incurance is very cheap. Car has to be like it was when it first came out of the dealer. But inspectors allow few exceptations for safety and reliability issues like radial tires, and these upgrades what i have done. Those modifications just have to look like right. So modern orange regulator wont be right if it not fixed to look like mechanical regulator
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imopar380
Posted 2011-08-27 1:19 PM (#286426 - in reply to #286310)
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It's basically the same here in my home province of British Columbia, Canada. We can get collector plates & insurance on a car 25 years old that is in good condition, no visible rust, interior & carpets must be clean, underhood must be presentable etc. Collector plates and insurance are cheap, and runs about $200.00 per year. You can drive the car for pleasure anywhere, but not work or school and there must be one car registered in the same family with regular insurance. You are also allowed safety upgrades, like front disk brakes, alternator, conversion to 12V etc. but NOT allowed an electronic ignition! I have an AAJ Front disk brake kit on my Saratoga. It has an NOS distributor and vacuum advance, and a new stock regulator. The generator has not been touched yet, and looks original. I suppose it should be checked over. The front end has new ball joints and all new bushings as well. I need to take a closer look at the tie rod ends and idler arm but they did pass the safety inspection. Steering is stable, no wandering on the highway.
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Posted 2011-08-27 2:21 PM (#286436 - in reply to #284677)
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Both, stunning cars, wonderful - big congratulation to both owners.

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Posted 2011-10-29 11:25 PM (#294426 - in reply to #284677)
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WOW- WOW- I wish I had that car. Contact me if you want to sell.
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Posted 2011-10-30 6:55 PM (#294506 - in reply to #284677)
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Great job! That car is stunning!
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MrIncredible
Posted 2015-05-29 2:14 AM (#479726 - in reply to #284803)
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PolaraPaul - 2011-08-15 7:53 PM

See attached pictures that should answer questions on extent of rotisserie restoration, front frame off.


Sorry to bump this older thread-but can anyone tell me how the front frame comes off? I haven't been able to find any info and I can't currently access the car.

As a followup question, does anyone know what other cars/years used the same front frame?

Thanks much,

Dave
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Adventurer 60
Posted 2015-05-29 5:18 PM (#479775 - in reply to #479726)
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MrIncredible - 2015-05-29 2:14 AM

PolaraPaul - 2011-08-15 7:53 PM

See attached pictures that should answer questions on extent of rotisserie restoration, front frame off.


Sorry to bump this older thread-but can anyone tell me how the front frame comes off? I haven't been able to find any info and I can't currently access the car.

As a followup question, does anyone know what other cars/years used the same front frame?

Thanks much,

Dave


Front frame comes of easily. Just loosen the bolts, 4 on the driver and passenger floor and the bolts of the front of firewall.
122" and 126" front frames and floors are different. Longer wheel base was used in New Yorkers and 300 F and G 1960 to 1962. Other Mopars used short wheel base frame. in 1960 thru 1964
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b5rt
Posted 2015-05-29 7:14 PM (#479778 - in reply to #284677)
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There's also 2 bolts, one on each side, that run horizontal and are easy to get to. They're between the back 4 (under the carpet in front of front seat) and the 4 at firewall.
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MrIncredible
Posted 2015-05-29 7:28 PM (#479779 - in reply to #479775)
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Front frame comes of easily. Just loosen the bolts, 4 on the driver and passenger floor and the bolts of the front of firewall.
122" and 126" front frames and floors are different. Longer wheel base was used in New Yorkers and 300 F and G 1960 to 1962. Other Mopars used short wheel base frame. in 1960 thru 1964


So for further clarification, I have a 1961 Newport that is having issues.

I have a 1964 300 parts car-it sounds like these might interchange?


I really appreciate the knowledge being shared here-I'll start a build thread soon elsewhere.
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ttotired
Posted 2015-05-29 8:09 PM (#479784 - in reply to #284677)
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I havnt messed with either car, but I think you will find it will fit, but have a close look at everything in front of the main crossmember, things like welded on brackets and bumper iron mounts might be your undoing

The frames for a 60 plymouth to a 60 dodge are different for these reasons

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