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D11
Posted 2016-01-12 7:18 PM (#500863 - in reply to #500828)
Subject: Re: 61 Dodge Pioneer Wagon.....slightly modified


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Location: Montana		I got my rear view mirrors picked out and one put on today. They came off of a 66 Dodge pickup.



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D11
Posted 2016-01-14 10:43 PM (#501145 - in reply to #500863)
Subject: Re: 61 Dodge Pioneer Wagon.....slightly modified


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Location: Montana		Got both of them on. Amazing how easily they went on considering they were designed to go on pickups and trucks. I love how they look since you never see them in this application.



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D11
Posted 2016-01-15 12:44 PM (#501192 - in reply to #501145)
Subject: Re: 61 Dodge Pioneer Wagon.....slightly modified


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Location: Montana		I got the wiring harness today. I went with a Rebel Wires brand. It's an 8 circuit harness which is perfect for the small amount of electronic stuff in the car. Everything is labeled on each wire and they give you plenty to work with. Even a good instruction booklet if you have questions. I thought the price was pretty decent at $165. The best part...Made in America.



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udoittwo
Posted 2016-01-30 10:49 AM (#502744 - in reply to #499140)
Subject: RE: 61 Dodge Pioneer Wagon.....slightly modified


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Location: Valley Forge, Pa.		I am not in favor on the modifying something rare, antique, or unusual but who am I to say anything as I took a rare triple black low milage 1970 Montew Carlo SS 454 with 31 options and converted it to 4WD then destroyed it. Besides, unless this car is totally destroyed, it looks real solid and much of it may find its way back to its origins some day?

IF you are going to modify the rear wheel wells to accomodate, please take some time and remove the wheel well lips. They are really hard to build and I would like to find some nice ones.

Oh, I like the pedals but I have slipped off a clutch enough times to see a potential ankle shreadding?

Enjoy!
Karl.




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D11
Posted 2016-01-30 9:12 PM (#502798 - in reply to #502744)
Subject: RE: 61 Dodge Pioneer Wagon.....slightly modified


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Location: Montana		Been working on running the fuel lines the last few days. I used Aeroquip fuel lines and mounted them with Stauff clamps on the car. The lines in the wheel well will have a rock guard over them for protection. I used a piece of unistrut attached to the inside of the rear frame rail and ran it forward to the subframe. The battery cables, brake line, wiring, and fuel all run along it for a cleaner look.



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fenix
Posted 2016-01-31 12:05 PM (#502842 - in reply to #499140)
Subject: Re: 61 Dodge Pioneer Wagon.....slightly modified



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Location: atlanta		Nice to see Your not modding it to much, You may want to restore it back to stock one day! and as my Korean ex-wife used to say " U Craygee "
Nice work, very creative, and way better than having it demo derby'd and then crushed, gonna be a fun ride.
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D11
Posted 2016-02-08 7:24 PM (#503630 - in reply to #502842)
Subject: Re: 61 Dodge Pioneer Wagon.....slightly modified


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Location: Montana		I had to find a new place to park my project. Had a bit of a falling out with my shops owner. Anyways it now has a home under my carport and I'll cover it until I get set up with a new place.



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oldwood
Posted 2016-02-08 8:13 PM (#503635 - in reply to #503630)
Subject: Re: 61 Dodge Pioneer Wagon.....slightly modified


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Location: little rock, AR		Arkansas sounds like a good place to leave it. lol I had 2 of those but other projects kept me from fixing them.
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D11
Posted 2016-02-11 4:53 PM (#503907 - in reply to #503635)
Subject: Re: 61 Dodge Pioneer Wagon.....slightly modified


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Location: Montana		The driveshaft showed up yesterday. For any of you guys who are needing a shaft built I would highly recommend Denny's Driveshafts out of Buffalo NY. Their customer service is incredible and they are very knowledgeable. They make the ordering process super easy with all their premade measurement forms. They beat my local Inland Truck Parts by $200 and that included being shipped to me. Plus a warranty on welds and materials. And to top it all off he tossed in a t shirt and some stickers. I've spent way more with other companies and haven't been treated nearly as well as these guys did. Give em a call.



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big m
Posted 2016-02-11 5:16 PM (#503908 - in reply to #499140)
Subject: Re: 61 Dodge Pioneer Wagon.....slightly modified



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D11
Posted 2016-03-17 10:16 PM (#507184 - in reply to #503908)
Subject: Re: 61 Dodge Pioneer Wagon.....slightly modified


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Location: Montana		I've been building some of the brake lines lately. I decided to go with Aeroquip braided stainless lines. They are kinda spendy but I think they are worth it in the long run.



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oldwood
Posted 2016-03-17 10:44 PM (#507186 - in reply to #507184)
Subject: Re: 61 Dodge Pioneer Wagon.....slightly modified


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Location: little rock, AR		Too much LITE will make you go DARK. Great looking ride!!!
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D11
Posted 2016-03-20 8:39 AM (#507376 - in reply to #507186)
Subject: Re: 61 Dodge Pioneer Wagon.....slightly modified


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Location: Montana		Since I buried the batteries way in the rear of the car I wanted a way to get to them without opening everything up. I needed a way to jump start someone and charge mine if they went dead. Easiest thing I could think of was remote lugs for a drag car. Worked out quite well. I ended up using about 30 feet of 00 welding cable for my battery leads between the lugs, batteries, and all the way up to the starter and engine block.



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AceS
Posted 2016-03-20 2:10 PM (#507396 - in reply to #499140)
Subject: RE: 61 Dodge Pioneer Wagon.....slightly modified



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D11
Posted 2016-04-05 7:55 PM (#508846 - in reply to #507396)
Subject: RE: 61 Dodge Pioneer Wagon.....slightly modified


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Location: Montana		I'm continuing to work in the wiring. This is far from my best skill so it takes me quite awile to do it. I got my blinker dash indicators and high beam indicator lights put in the dash too. Not sure what they came out of but they are genuine old school lights.



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D11
Posted 2016-05-27 5:23 PM (#512610 - in reply to #508846)
Subject: RE: 61 Dodge Pioneer Wagon.....slightly modified


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Location: Montana		It's been awile since I got to post anything on this but I've made some good progress. I'll post up some more pics soon for you guys.
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D11
Posted 2016-05-28 3:30 AM (#512639 - in reply to #512610)
Subject: RE: 61 Dodge Pioneer Wagon.....slightly modified


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Location: Montana		I rolled the car across the scale today. Minus what I weigh the car sits a just a shade over 5000 lbs. I was actually a bit surprised. I was expecting a bit heavier than that.



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D11
Posted 2016-05-28 3:34 AM (#512640 - in reply to #512639)
Subject: RE: 61 Dodge Pioneer Wagon.....slightly modified


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Location: Montana		I've been doing some finishing touches with the car. I got the filler neck built and the cup holders welded down too



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D11
Posted 2016-05-28 3:39 AM (#512641 - in reply to #512640)
Subject: RE: 61 Dodge Pioneer Wagon.....slightly modified


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Location: Montana		Wiring and I do not really get along so it took me a bit to get this mess of wires put in the proper place. It all worked out pretty well though.



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moparsteve
Posted 2016-05-28 12:02 PM (#512671 - in reply to #499140)
Subject: RE: 61 Dodge Pioneer Wagon.....slightly modified


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Location: somerville mass		THIS THING IS GONNA SCARE THE CHIT OUT OF

PEOPLE WHEN THEY SEE THIS THING BEHIND THEM

WHAT THE F%&K WHAT THE HELL IS THAT! THE

SOUND ALONE LOOKS LIE IT CAN RUN CARS OFF THE

ROAD WOW!!!!!
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61forfun
Posted 2016-05-28 2:19 PM (#512680 - in reply to #499140)
Subject: Re: 61 Dodge Pioneer Wagon.....slightly modified



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Location: Vancouver, Washington		I love your project !!! Way creatively eclectic and very cool!!
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D11
Posted 2016-05-28 4:39 PM (#512684 - in reply to #512680)
Subject: Re: 61 Dodge Pioneer Wagon.....slightly modified


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Location: Montana		Thank you! It's been a long 2 years building it but finally getting to drive it has made the time and effort totally worth it.
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D11
Posted 2016-05-29 10:38 AM (#512723 - in reply to #512684)
Subject: Re: 61 Dodge Pioneer Wagon.....slightly modified


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Location: Montana		I ended up doing somthing different with the wheels and tires. I was going to use max wedge hub caps on black steel wheels but I just didn't think they fit in with the farm theme of everything else on the car. I got a set of white spokes and some 7.00 15 diggers. I think it suits the car better. I still have a set of smooth aluminum wheels too that I might mount some less agressive tires on for longer trips so I don't have to listen to the tires whine for hours on end.



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D11
Posted 2016-05-29 4:50 PM (#512739 - in reply to #512723)
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Location: Montana		For anyone who is interested in using a Bilstein shock on the front of a car like this, I found a very clean way to do it. Obivously I have some suspension modifications that most people won't but I think this could work for most applications.

I simply cut the washer out of the top of the shock tower and inserted a 2" pipe nipple 4" inches long into the tower until about 1/4" before the top threads was still showing and gave me a place to weld it in. You may need to grind a very small amount of the outside diameter of the pipe nipple to get it to fit inside the shock tower. It will be a tight fit.

I used a shock intended for a 2wd Dodge pickup with a Cummins and independent front suspension - Bilstein part # 24-184847. This slides very nicely inside the pipe nipple. It is close tolerance but works without rubbing.

I then drilled a pipe cap to fit the rubber bushings and threaded the top on and bolted it all together. The bracket on the lower control arms needs to be fabricated to accomodate the wider shock eye, but it's not terribly hard to do.

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Fick4fun
Posted 2016-05-29 5:24 PM (#512741 - in reply to #512739)
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Man I'd love to c this thing I was going to put a duramax in my imperial but had the factory motor re done. My loss I guess cool car though it's you style and that's how it should be
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D11
Posted 2016-05-30 1:52 AM (#512764 - in reply to #512741)
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Location: Montana		Well after today I have the first 100 miles on the wagon and I have to say I'm extremely happy with the results. The car rides very very well going down the road. Pretty much floats even with the stiff suspension up front. It steers very well. It does have a touch of bump steer but I was expecting some degree of that due to the major change I did with the rack and pinion there. It's slightly noticeable but far from unbearable. The transmission shifts great and is quiet. I was a bit nervous since it was my first rebuild. I had ever done one but it goes to show with a bit a patients and the right rebuild manual it's pretty simple. The engine runs amazing. I have all the power I need for now but I'm sure once I become accustomed to it I'll want to spring for bigger injectors and a new turbo. All in all its a super fun ride The looks on people's faces when they see an old station wagon and then hear a dodge pickup. .....priceless.

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oldwood
Posted 2016-06-02 10:30 PM (#513067 - in reply to #499140)
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D11
Posted 2016-06-05 8:18 PM (#513286 - in reply to #513067)
Subject: Re: 61 Dodge Pioneer Wagon.....slightly modified


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Location: Montana		I got the center console / toolbox done today. I picked up a 20mm ammo can from the Army Navy surplus store and used it. Im not sure why but this one had been crudely painted red but it fit in well with the seats. I had to cut a little over 3 inches off the bottom to get the height I was looking for but I still have a bunch of room inside. I want to add a toolbox tray that lifts out to hold all my odds n ends above the tools below. It works great for an armrest too unless the sun had been beating on it all afternoon....ouch!!



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61forfun
Posted 2016-06-05 10:21 PM (#513293 - in reply to #499140)
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Location: Vancouver, Washington		man that looks right at home... those seat covers are something else. Can't wait to see this thing in it's final stage
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