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 1956 Chrysler Plainsman for saleModerators: ronbo97 Jump to page : 1 Now viewing page 1 [50 messages per page] | View previous thread :: View next thread |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7207    Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | The Plainsman was on display at the WPC National Meet at our Friday Evening Tour of the John White Collection in Sacramento. John doesn't own this car but it was brought specifically to his facility for the WPC Club to see it that evening. I took the photos below. It's very rough. The styling is not my cup of tea, at all. It looks very suspciously like a Ford Concept car that was build around the same time as this, was discussed on another thread here several weeks ago. Edited by imopar380 2010-01-29 12:41 PM (PLAINSMAN_JULY_2009_WPC_NAT.jpg) (PLAINSMAN_JULY_2009_WPC_NAT-A.jpg) (PLAINSMAN_JULY_2009_WPC_NAT-B.jpg) (PLAINSMAN_JULY_2009_WPC_NAT-C.jpg) Attachments ----------------  PLAINSMAN_JULY_2009_WPC_NAT.jpg (55KB - 368 downloads) PLAINSMAN_JULY_2009_WPC_NAT-A.jpg (40KB - 235 downloads) PLAINSMAN_JULY_2009_WPC_NAT-B.jpg (46KB - 277 downloads) PLAINSMAN_JULY_2009_WPC_NAT-C.jpg (38KB - 224 downloads) | ||
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Location: Under the X in Texas | At least three of the pictures in the eBay ad were taken at the RM auction garage structure at the AZ Biltmore hotel awaiting the appearance on stage last week in Phoenix. Here are a couple more. Edited by StillOutThere 2010-01-29 12:43 PM (PlainsmanCluster.jpg) (Plainsman,Wayne.jpg) Attachments ---------------- PlainsmanCluster.jpg (144KB - 219 downloads) Plainsman,Wayne.jpg (113KB - 247 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7207 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | 1959Dodge - 2010-01-29 9:46 AM Hmmm, looks like virg got into the "future Generous Motors stuff" to build that. Note the Ponttyack front end, and the Crasholac details at the end of the bumper. It also has "Hints" of Packard when viewed from the side. And that top "It's outta sight" well mine anyway!!!!!!! Gary Gary, agreed that the split grille is reminiscent of a Pontyack, but actually it's more like a Mercury concept, as discussed a few weeks ago http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=28758&... Edited by imopar380 2010-01-29 12:59 PM (Merc_XM800-front.JPG) (Merc_XM800-rear.JPG) Attachments ---------------- Merc_XM800-front.JPG (72KB - 404 downloads) Merc_XM800-rear.JPG (91KB - 328 downloads) | ||
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Location: Under the X in Texas | I think we have a clue in this page. This isn't Exner's work on this car; it was "Created by stylists of the Engineering Division". Now what that means is a question for an engineer from that era and I have sent off an email to one of them in hopes of finding out. (!Bkh8RI!CGk~$(KGrHqMH-DUEs+pkY2UDBL(6KoHuMw~~_3.jpg) Attachments ---------------- !Bkh8RI!CGk~$(KGrHqMH-DUEs+pkY2UDBL(6KoHuMw~~_3.jpg (93KB - 231 downloads) | ||
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Location: Under the X in Texas | Here are two more photos that tie this car to Ford styling. The black car exists at the Ford Museum in Greenfield Village and is called the '53 Ford X-100. The styling studio photo pre-dates 1952 and probably shows the X-100 in clay as a red car lower center of the photo. Impossible to question, IMHO, that the front fender peaks and front bumper corner protrusions and basket handle roof on the Plainsman didn't all come out of this same styling studio on these cars and the Mercury concept also in this thread. (1953_Ford_X-100_Concept_Car.jpg) (ford-styling-1952.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 1953_Ford_X-100_Concept_Car.jpg (126KB - 250 downloads) ford-styling-1952.jpg (83KB - 248 downloads) | ||
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Location: Under the X in Texas | There is always room for a "HOWEVER" in researching history I think. Ran across this Virgil Exner sketch for Studebaker (you will recall he worked for Stude before he came to Chrysler). Look at the shape of the headlight overhangs and the front bumper area and of course that Stude bullet nose is out there but it is really similar to the inserts in the Plainsman bumper ends! This sketch is known as the "Mystery sketch" and for decades has made people wonder if the impetus for the renowned '53 Studebaker coupe and hardtop styling credited to Raymond Loewy and Bob Bourke was not inspired by this very Exner sketch pre-dating those cars by some five years. Virgil Exner Jr. has no info on this sketch; thus the "mystery". (exner-studebaker_mysterysketch.jpg) Attachments ---------------- exner-studebaker_mysterysketch.jpg (31KB - 306 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7808 Location: Williams California | |||
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Location: Parts Unknown | My brother owns one of the show circuit 53 Commanders. Remarkable similarity. Wish they had put that bullet nose on them !  | ||
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Expert Posts: 2244 Location: Yorba Linda, Ca | "Wish they had put that bullet nose on them ." They should have put two on them, then the car really would have been "Dolly (ed) Up" Gary  | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 781 Location: Montreal, Canada | My all time favorite wagon.......... The fun I could have with it.  | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1049 Location: PL / EU | |||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1049 Location: PL / EU | AGAIN ON EBAY!!! VIN: 9999760 | See the full History Report Mileage: 50,354 miles Warranty: Vehicle does NOT have an existing warranty Title: Other (specify in description) Condition: Used For sale by: Private seller Features Body type: Wagon Engine: 8 - Cyl. Cylinder Exterior color: Tan Transmission: Automatic Fuel type: Gasoline Interior color: Brown Disability equipped: -- 1956 Chrysler Ghia Plainsman Station Wagon Concept Car – Low Reserve This is a Chrysler Auto Show Car developed through out the United States in 1956 at all of the auto shows. This car was recently on the cover of Old Cars Weekly, January 21, 2010. This rare, original, as found 1956 Chrysler Ghia Plainsman Station Wagon concept car has been on display at all the important museums in the United States including the Auburn Cord Duesenberg Museum, the Petersen Auto Museum, the Gilmore Museum and others. This is the only known 50’s concept car/dream car station wagon that exists today. At the RM Auction at Meadow Brook a 1953 Chrysler Ghia, 2-door hardtop, fully restored car sold for $850,000.00. You could restore this car and sell it and maybe profit up to half a million dollars. This car featured such advanced styling cues and mechanical functions as including the first station wagon to have a rear facing third seat. Also the rear window lowers by power into the tailgate and then the tailgate opens as power operated. The rear tailgate opens to step plates that were designed to come out of the rear bumper. The third seat is also power operated so that it will either setup into a seat or flatten into the floor all by power. The interior was finished with unborn baby calfskin. The spare tire is stored in the rear fender. The gas cap is under the left rear taillight, which sucks in under vacuum to expose the filler cap for filling the car with gasoline. Virgil Exner designed 95% of Chrysler concepts and then the Chrysler chassis’ were shipped to Ghia. The completed concept cars were then returned to the United States for show purposes but had to be exported out of the United States within eighteen months in order for Chrysler not to have to pay duty. This particular car was shipped to Cuba after its show purposes and was given to the president of all of the Cuban banks. After his death the car was returned to the main Chrysler dealership in Cuba. The export manager for Chrysler Corp. lived on a large estate in Cuba and was given the car by the Chrysler Corporation and shortly thereafter Castro took over Cuba and chased out all of the Americans. The Export manager for Chrysler escaped from Cuba with all of his worldly belongings including this Chrysler concept car and returned to the United States. The Export Manager had the car refitted by Chrysler with a Chrysler 440 engine, which currently powers it. This car was produced as a 2-door station wagon because Chrysler anticipated the success of the Chevy Nomad and wanted to have a competitive vehicle. However, this is the one and only ‘show” 2-door prototype station wagon that exists today. He was later promoted to the Export Manager of Australia where he lived for many years and then retired to California. Again taking this concept car with him. The car was given to his son and the son later gave it to his son. In the late 80’s the car was sold to a famous auto collection where it remained for a number of years before it was sold to the present owner. It was the intent of the present owner to restore the car to its original pristine condition but the financial climate in the United States has forced him to put the car up for a reluctant sale. This car is highly documented and similar restored concept cars to this have sold previously within the last six years for $1 to $3 Million Dollars. Again the financial climate in the United States forces the current owner to sell this car for a more then attractive price. This is one of the rarest Chrysler concept cars and the only concept station wagon known to exist from the 50’s and the 60’s from American Manufacturers. This car runs down the road just fine. The power tailgate and power rear seat are fully functioning. The Italian custom body manufacturer Ghia also manufactured bodies for other foreign automotive manufacturers. Ghia is considered such an important company that this year the Pebble Beach Concours d’Elegance featured Ghia cars. Yes, the car needs all cosmetics. A ONCE in a lifetime opportunity to have one of the finest American concept cars in your collection! This car is listed at a very low reserve. The owner and car are both located in San Mateo, CA. Factory photos are in Black & White. Mileage as stated on odometer 50354 Sold on BILL OF SALE. There is no warranty implied or otherwise. Car is sold as is, where is and shown. What you see is what you get. PLEASE READ BEFORE BIDDING! Bidders who do not comply with the terms of listing will have their bid canceled. Any questions need to be asked BEFORE bidding by calling 847-774-4857. If you are a bidder with · less then 20 feedback · Negative Feedback · More than 1 retracted bid in six months · Outside of USA Do NOT bid until you get approval by calling 847-774-4857. PLEASE SEE OTHER VEHICLES THAT WE HAVE LISTED. Add us as a favorite seller as we will be bringing you more great cars in the future. WINNING BIDDER PAYMENT & PICKUP SELLER REQUIRES WINNING BIDDER CONTACT SELLER WITHIN 48 HOURS OF AUCTION END TO ACKNOWLEDGE PURCHASE AND MAKE ARRANGEMENTS FOR PICKUP OR SHIPPING. ALSO A 20% DEPOSIT IS REQUIRED WITHIN THREE DAYS OF CLOSE OF AUCTION. FULL PAYMENT REQUIRED WITHIN TEN DAYS OF END OF AUCTION. TRANSPORTATION COSTS ARE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE WINNING BIDDER. ANY QUESTIONS CALL 847-774-4857 Edited by RDP 2010-11-12 3:03 AM (!B8TF7k!EGk~$(KGrHqV,!g0Eyrp,eQp4BM2qvnp+2!~~_12.jpg) (!B8TF9NQCWk~$(KGrHqJ,!joEzK6eDzqBBM2qvsV5fg~~_12.jpg) (!B8TF9qw!mk~$(KGrHqZ,!hYEyruDH!lOBM2qvtmllQ~~_12.jpg) (!B8TF60QCWk~$(KGrHqZ,!h4EzLtF2yk(BM2qvlQhvg~~_12.jpg) (!B8TF-cQEWk~$(KGrHqN,!iEEzL)e4e-YBM2qvwbf6!~~_12.jpg) (!B8TG!!QEGk~$(KGrHqV,!hcEyrsF6JN3BM2qv1JRg!~~_12.jpg) (!B8TG!kQEGk~$(KGrHqN,!lUEy+jC1dDEBM2qv3!)4Q~~_12.jpg) (!B8TGBVQEWk~$(KGrHqV,!hsEzMl!gCfOBM2qv5HDsw~~_12.jpg) (!B8TGCcgBWk~$(KGrHqZ,!lUEy+jCzLSgBM2qv8j(d!~~_12.jpg) (!B8TGDSQ!2k~$(KGrHqV,!lMEy+jC5UHtBM2qv+Sw2Q~~_12.jpg) (!B8TGEQgCGk~$(KGrHqF,!lUEy+jC05(mBM2qwCDoLQ~~_12.jpg) (!B8TGFZgBmk~$(KGrHqN,!mEEy+jC1qTKBM2qwFUN8Q~~_12.jpg) Attachments ---------------- !B8TF7k!EGk~$(KGrHqV,!g0Eyrp,eQp4BM2qvnp+2!~~_12.jpg (48KB - 231 downloads) !B8TF9NQCWk~$(KGrHqJ,!joEzK6eDzqBBM2qvsV5fg~~_12.jpg (45KB - 225 downloads) !B8TF9qw!mk~$(KGrHqZ,!hYEyruDH!lOBM2qvtmllQ~~_12.jpg (46KB - 307 downloads) !B8TF60QCWk~$(KGrHqZ,!h4EzLtF2yk(BM2qvlQhvg~~_12.jpg (55KB - 193 downloads) !B8TF-cQEWk~$(KGrHqN,!iEEzL)e4e-YBM2qvwbf6!~~_12.jpg (52KB - 223 downloads) !B8TG!!QEGk~$(KGrHqV,!hcEyrsF6JN3BM2qv1JRg!~~_12.jpg (51KB - 180 downloads) !B8TG!kQEGk~$(KGrHqN,!lUEy+jC1dDEBM2qv3!)4Q~~_12.jpg (56KB - 224 downloads) !B8TGBVQEWk~$(KGrHqV,!hsEzMl!gCfOBM2qv5HDsw~~_12.jpg (43KB - 205 downloads) !B8TGCcgBWk~$(KGrHqZ,!lUEy+jCzLSgBM2qv8j(d!~~_12.jpg (41KB - 213 downloads) !B8TGDSQ!2k~$(KGrHqV,!lMEy+jC5UHtBM2qv+Sw2Q~~_12.jpg (39KB - 198 downloads) !B8TGEQgCGk~$(KGrHqF,!lUEy+jC05(mBM2qwCDoLQ~~_12.jpg (28KB - 207 downloads) !B8TGFZgBmk~$(KGrHqN,!mEEy+jC1qTKBM2qwFUN8Q~~_12.jpg (35KB - 211 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1049 Location: PL / EU | . (!B8TGI(wEGk~$(KGrHqZ,!i!EzLKYclTPBM2qwN(UY!~~_12.jpg) (!B8TGJi!BGk~$(KGrHqZ,!iQEzNkeqbgZBM2qwQjqTQ~~_12.jpg) (!B8TGL)gEGk~$(KGrHqZ,!lcEy+jCzJ5oBM2qwWqcTw~~_12.jpg) (!B8TGMcwEWk~$(KGrHqV,!i0EzNqw7wFPBM2qwYgvPw~~_12.jpg) (!B8TGNsw!mk~$(KGrHqR,!iIEzNHnqRU)BM2qwcH,hw~~_12.jpg) (!B8TGO)wB2k~$(KGrHqF,!icEzNyfok85BM2qwe4b5g~~_12.jpg) (!B8TGP0gBGk~$(KGrHqV,!jUEzKMBd-(3BM2qwiWK4Q~~_12.jpg) (!B8TGQ3!EGk~$(KGrHqR,!hoEyrwUTWGNBM2qwl(IbQ~~_12.jpg) (!B8TGSF!!Wk~$(KGrHqZ,!k0Ey+jCzKnQBM2qwp!Y+w~~_12.jpg) (!B8TGTCQ!mk~$(KGrHqJ,!joEzK6eDzqBBM2qwrtH0!~~_12.jpg) (!B8TIemgEWk~$(KGrHqZ,!gwEy2GdGy4uBM2q3LBKD!~~_12.jpg) (!B8TIf6Q!mk~$(KGrHqV,!k8Ey+jC2SdvBM2q3O3HGQ~~_12.jpg) Attachments ---------------- !B8TGI(wEGk~$(KGrHqZ,!i!EzLKYclTPBM2qwN(UY!~~_12.jpg (53KB - 204 downloads) !B8TGJi!BGk~$(KGrHqZ,!iQEzNkeqbgZBM2qwQjqTQ~~_12.jpg (44KB - 192 downloads) !B8TGL)gEGk~$(KGrHqZ,!lcEy+jCzJ5oBM2qwWqcTw~~_12.jpg (71KB - 232 downloads) !B8TGMcwEWk~$(KGrHqV,!i0EzNqw7wFPBM2qwYgvPw~~_12.jpg (30KB - 189 downloads) !B8TGNsw!mk~$(KGrHqR,!iIEzNHnqRU)BM2qwcH,hw~~_12.jpg (33KB - 215 downloads) !B8TGO)wB2k~$(KGrHqF,!icEzNyfok85BM2qwe4b5g~~_12.jpg (18KB - 200 downloads) !B8TGP0gBGk~$(KGrHqV,!jUEzKMBd-(3BM2qwiWK4Q~~_12.jpg (21KB - 179 downloads) !B8TGQ3!EGk~$(KGrHqR,!hoEyrwUTWGNBM2qwl(IbQ~~_12.jpg (20KB - 202 downloads) !B8TGSF!!Wk~$(KGrHqZ,!k0Ey+jCzKnQBM2qwp!Y+w~~_12.jpg (30KB - 217 downloads) !B8TGTCQ!mk~$(KGrHqJ,!joEzK6eDzqBBM2qwrtH0!~~_12.jpg (20KB - 217 downloads) !B8TIemgEWk~$(KGrHqZ,!gwEy2GdGy4uBM2q3LBKD!~~_12.jpg (44KB - 224 downloads) !B8TIf6Q!mk~$(KGrHqV,!k8Ey+jC2SdvBM2q3O3HGQ~~_12.jpg (20KB - 216 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 1488 Location: Florida | I've read in most accounts of this car that it is upholstered in the skins of unborn calves -  - Isn't that kind of creepy?Edited by Chopper John 2010-11-12 5:02 PM | ||
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | |||
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | |||
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Location: Under the X in Texas | d500neil - 2010-11-12 5:47 PM Can this car be described as being a FORD-looking design? YES, absolutely. The assorted elements of the concepts, models, sketches the FORD design staff is shown working on in numerous photos taken around 1952-53 look like twin brothers and sisters to the Plainsman. Edited by StillOutThere 2010-11-12 9:45 PM (ford-styling-1952.jpg) Attachments ---------------- ford-styling-1952.jpg (83KB - 205 downloads) | ||
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