RE: Poly timing chain cover removal

Yep timing cover popped off after removing the 2 oil pan screws. Engine loaded and ready to haul to machine shop tonight.

Recommendation on a timing set? Cloyes part number?

The original timing chain pretty sloppy (90,000 on the engine) - can move the cam 3/16” before it takes up the slack.

Found oil pickup tube, oil pump drive shaft parts numbers on the Melling site - already have new oil pump on hand:

http://omnitek.co/mellingcatalog/#ag/search/make%3Ddodge%252CDodge%26model%3Ddart%252CDart%26year%3D1962%252C1962%26engine%3D8cyl%2525205.2l%252520318cid%252C8Cyl%2525205.2L%252520318Cid/1

From: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Herb
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 10:04 AM
To: 1962to1965mopars
Subject: Re: Poly timing chain cover removal

Sorry if I gave bad info, my bad.

A few years back I got a 64 Polara that had a broken tube and went to the Dodge Dealer with the broken piece. The parts guy told me "same tube as the LA's" as he went back in the parts room, and walked out with a new tube that fit perfectly. Guess their was more research going on in the back round than I thought.

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From: Richard Kinsley

Date: 3/9/2015 10:32:54 AM

To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: Re: Poly timing chain cover removal

The dipstick tube turned out to be one of the biggest problems in my original rebuild. It was fractured and broke off while moving the engine around. Then the piece in the block was extremely difficult to remove. The machine shop started working on it and they had issues so I finished with them and brought it home and got it out after several days of "engineering". This was not the norm though. On a couple other poly's, and other engines, the dipsticks were very easy to remove. I even broke one new tube trying to get it back in place on the engine and had to get it out too. My final time I got a new one back in but it almost fractured too so I JB welded it in place and it will never come out ! I found that there were several different lengths of tubes available. In the end I bought one from the dealer which is PN 3418933 AG7G6TUBE-OIL L for $10 in about '06. This is the tube and dipstick ass'y. The tube was shorter but worked fine. I had to cut about 2" off the dipstick as I recall and recalibrate it. Easy to do though.

This was not the normal scenario though. So don't be unduly worried about the process but be aware it can go bad just like anything. Dang Murphy's Law!

Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr LeRoar 318poly w/less goodies

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Herb <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Same tube as the LA's. Any dealer should have one.

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From: Hall, Ricky L

Date: 3/9/2015 8:46:06 AM

To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: RE: Poly timing chain cover removal

Source for replacement dipstick if needed? Yes the short block will go to a local “old school” machine shop for rebuild and balance, same that did the heads.

From: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael LeFevre
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 6:03 AM
To: 1962to1965mopars
Subject: Re: Poly timing chain cover removal

Morning Ricky,

It seems like there are a couple of oil pan bolts screwed into the front cover? Drive the dipstick tube out from the bottom. Use a drift punch of the same diameter or grind down a bolt to the correct diameter for a punch. I would "completely" strip that block and get it hot tanked.

Mike LeFevre

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Hall, Ricky L <ricky.l.hall@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

No turning back now - have the engine out to rebuild the bottom end. Had the heads done 2 years ago but still too much blow-by.

Any trick to getting to timing cover off? I removed 3 bolts on one side and 2 on the other. Seems snug with oil pan on yet, pretty encrusted with dirt oil to see what else needs to come off.

Does the dipstick tube stay during a rebuild, if not how do you remove it?

Thanks - First engine work in over 30 years - and then it was not a ’62 Dodge I was working on. ; )

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