RE: scored a '65 3-speed manual trans!

This transmission has a bulge on the cover towards the front (whew). It is 26 1/2" long front mounting surface to the back of the output flange. The output flange is 4" dia, like my other transmissions. On the car I checked, I did not cut all the way through the cross member under the floor board but I did cut a big notch out of it. I cut the heck out of the transmission mount support frame member, but that is bolt in and I already have a couple of spares.

The original transmission was a hefty piece, behind a 318 poly engine. I remember when I first bought this car and got it running, the transmission could not be downshifted shifted into 1st unless the car stopped or you were good at double clutching, like a truck. I remember 1st was noisy and rattled, like it had been driven by someone who did not know how to drive it and treated it roughly. Until one day Bang! a couple of teeth broke off of the gear and that was that. This was about 18 years ago, right before the internet, and with the sources available here in the northwest at the time, another could not be found. Even recently I have been watching on e-bay and craigslist for years. (I should have brought the subject up here). I threw it in with pile of broken engine parts I took to the junk yard when cleaning up one day, one of those "wish-I had-no-done-that" moments.

Ben Morgan

So what if I have cars in my yard

1966 Dodge Coronet 500
1964 Dodge Polara 2-dr HT
1964 Dodge 330 Station Wagon
1954 Ford F-100 (Grandpa's Truck)
1990 Ford Bronco 5.8L
plus a few other wrecks and lawn ornaments

From: spiketon_ridgerunner@xxxxxxx
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: scored a '65 3-speed manual trans!
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 11:11:32 -0800

Thanks for the info, I did not know there were different transmissions but I did know that A body and /6 used different transmissions. This has a flanged output shaft like the '64. I will go up and take a look at the top cover. This is going to be used with a 318 LA engine until I can get the 318 polyhead engine rebuilt. The 4-speed I used turned out to be an A body model, shifter was in the wrong place. I remember wondering why it was so much shorter than the 3-speed was if it was a '64 trans. This was back right before we had the internet and things like this were learned the hard way.

Ben Morgan

So what if I have cars in my yard

1966 Dodge Coronet 500
1964 Dodge Polara 2-dr HT
1964 Dodge 330 Station Wagon
1954 Ford F-100 (Grandpa's Truck)
1990 Ford Bronco 5.8L
plus a few other wrecks and lawn ornaments

> Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 05:07:06 -0800
> Subject: Re: scored a '65 3-speed manual trans!
> From: raybell46@xxxxxxxxx
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Ben, I'd like to raise a few issues about what you have posted here.
>
> First, when it comes to 3-speed transmissions in the '64 model 330
> fitted with a Poly, I think I'm right in saying there were two
> different transmissions fitted. 'Light duty' cars came with the A903
> where the A745 was fitted to other cars. And there were different gear
> ratios.
>
> You mentioning that you damaged the original does indeed auger towards
> you probably having had the light A903 in there, but that's not
> conclusive.
>
> Do you know the difference between the A903 and the A745? They are
> readily recognised as different as the pressed steel top cover on the
> A745 has a rounded bulge towards the front of the cover, the A903's
> cover is essentially flat.
>
> The A903 was most commonly used behind the slant 6, but there were
> some 'heavy duty' full size cars with slants which came with the A745.
> Just to complicate things!
>
> Of course, the transfer of the transmission from the '65 Coronet to
> the '65 330 means you will be changing from the original ball &
> trunnion to a sliding yoke. Practical, but not so original.
>
> I'm a little confused about the mention of butchering the torsion bar
> crossmember. Perhaps the A833 you used had its shifter mount in the
> wrong place, but I wouldn't think it really was necessary to attack
> the crossmember. Be that as it may, you now have the opportunity to
> right that wrong.
>
> Roger has mentioned that he has several transmissions that might suit
> you, and in my seeking out of A745s from distant Australia I have been
> able to find several over the past six or seven years, I am mystified
> that your search has taken so long.
>
> If you now find that the transmission you have now located is an A903
> (it shouldn't be from a '65 model, but you never know!), I would
> suggest you don't use it. Too light.
>
> If it is an A745 and it was behind a big block engine (you don't
> mention this...) you will find it's the 2.45:1 first gear version. On
> the other hand, if it was behind a 318 or 273 it might be the 3.1:1
> first gear version. Not that this will make a huge difference to you
> unless you want to do some spirited driving on twisty roads using the
> gearbox to the full. There are fors and againsts with both.
>
> It is good you are taking this trouble to make the car more original
> and to make it possible for youngsters to better understand what a
> 'standard transmission' was four decades before 6-speeds became
> commonplace.
>
> Ray
>
>
>
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