From: Gary Pavlovich <glpavlovich@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Racing Polys
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, February 1, 2011, 6:20 PM
Bill,
Great story! Did you notice an increase in power when
your opened the
exhaust cutout or just got louder?
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Harrison" <bbjt3@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: Racing Polys
Jim and Gary
My brother and I owned an ex state police 62 Dart with the
318 poly.
We used to run it at the Bean Blossom Indiana track.
Ran the cut out that
clamped to the exhaust pipe with a choke pull cable to open
and close it.
Like you, we couldn't afford headers or other engine mods
but that motor and
tranny were strong enough to pull the world. Had 3.23 open
gears and wasn't
the best out of the hole but man could it pull at the top
end.
It is close to the top of my list of cars I would like
back...
Later
Bill
--- On Mon, 1/31/11, Gary Pavlovich <glpavlovich@xxxxxxx>
wrote:
> From: Gary Pavlovich <glpavlovich@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Racing Polys
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 12:16 AM
>
> Jim,
>
> Very cool story on your Poly racing days. I would
> love to own a 1962 Dodge Dart. While I like all the
> 62-65 cars I would have to say the '62 Dart would be
my
> first pick and of course it would have a 402" Poly
Stroker
> motor in it.
>
> Thank you for sharing your history with us.
> Gary Pavlovich
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Rowland"
<dodge440@xxxxxxx>
> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 6:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Racing Polys
>
>
> >
> > Don;
> >
> > I used to race my parents 1962 Dodge Dart, Sedan,
at
> Route 30 in Gary, IN. That car was a 318 stock 2
Barrel. It
> was a radio delete. It had an open rear end and I am
> assuming it was 3;23 but it may have been a 2:
> something because on the open road it would get
between 17
> and 20 mi. to the gallon. Also it was single exhaust
> power steering and manual brakes. It ran in F/SA. It
> was a 727 trans. It weighed exactly 3,000 lbs. Also,
> stock 14 inch wheels.
> >
> > The first time I took it to the track i had a
cutout
> put on the exhaust, standard 6 inch by 2.5 inch
> galvanized plumbing pipe and a screw on cap. Back in
> the day it was against the law for a welder to weld a
> cutout on a cars exhaust system if they were still on
the
> car. I found one in Chicago Heights, IL to do the
job,
> I even remember their name (The Brooks Brothers).
Most
> welders wanted you to take the exhaust pipe off the
> car and then they would weld the cutout on it. The
> pipe and cape ran about $1.25 and the welder charged
me
> about $2.50. He just cut a small hole in the exhaust
> pipe and welded the pipe over the hole at a 45 degree
> angle. The next step was a seat belt only on the
> drivers side. Try explaining that to your
> parents!!!!!! They will buy the safety logic but why
for
> only the driver. I forget what i told them, something
> like I did not have the $ $ for two or the driver is
> essential to getting help if there is an accident.
What ever
> it was they did not make me take it out.
> >
> > Anyway, everyone was going to be at there on
opening
> day, March of 63, and we were excited. I paid my fee
> $3.00 and go to tech. They tell me to take a
> hick until I get a drive shaft loop. thats when I
> first learned about unibodies My buddies were running
> Gm cars and they had the X frame, thus a drive shaft
> catch. The next week I got two long threaded cheap
> bolts 1/4" by 1 1/2 inch fine tread, several nuts and
> a piece of steel probably 4'L x 1.5 W" from the trash
> at the gas station. Located the spot on the floor
> where the drive shaft was mostly still in the tunnel
> hump. Drilled two holes though the floor dropped in
> the bolts and put two nuts up to where they would
keep
> the steel piece of the drive shaft and then put the
> other 2 nuts on after the small, and I mean
> small. piece of metal.
> >
> > The next Sunday, i passed tech with flying
colors. In
> those days the rules said at some point the drive
> shaft had to be encompassed for 360 degrees. It did
> not say specifically what type of steel or what width
> and thickness. If my dad saw it i would point out it
was
> another engineering safety feature that I read about
> to make the car safer.
> >
> > We get to the line and i make my first ever pass
and
> with that cut out open I thought i was driving a max
wedge.
> I make my first pass and my time slip said about 16:45
and
> 80 something MPH. My buddy said i should let him
drive
> it. I forget his et but he upped the MPH over 90. I
> was mad. I did not realize at the time that the MPH
was 60
> ft before and after the finish line. I do not think
he
> knew it ether and just kept his foot in it as long as
> the engine was still climbing. It was not his car as
> long as he could get it stopped. So i came back and
> and made 3 or four runs with a best time in the 16:
teens.
> Every body always lost in that class to a 1958 Old's
> 98 or 88 Convertibles, there were several, with the J
> 2 option, 3 deuces. Man did they pull on the top end.
> Kind of like how the Hemis would fly by the
Thunderbolts
> in mid to late 64. Never did win a trophy with that
> car. I never realized until much later i was always
> smoking the right rear way too much.
> >
> > That is one of my other poly stories.
> >
> > Just a side note and I will sign off. I would
race a
> friends 64 Pontiac Cat. three on the tree 389 2
> door with a deuce and he would always beat me by
> about 3 bumpers. If I opened up the cutout I would
> have him by usually 2 to 3 cars. I kept telling him to
put
> on a cutout.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > 1965 Coronet 440CI
> >
> >
> >
> > The next week we took a couple of long bolts
> > On Jan 30, 2011, at 6:49 PM, Donald Gallimore
wrote:h
> >
> > Gary P wanted to know who raced polys.
> >
> > Back around 1970, my brother and I raced a 318
Poly in
> IHRA/AHRA Pure Stock.
> > Pretty much a stock set-up in a 1965 Belvedere
> 1. With a slipping tranny, we
> > set the National Record. Best run was a 15.96 in
> L/SA. This was in legal
> > trim. Back then that was a very amazing
> performance for a couple of guys with
> > limited financial resources, if I can say so.
> Would have been nice to see the
> > performance if we'd had a good tranny and the
right
> gears.
> >
> > Akron Don Gallimore
> >
> >
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