Re: Racing Polys

[William Harrison <bbjt3@xxxxxxxxx>]

I probably gained 3 tenths and 1 to 2 mph but it sure got louder.
The only ticket I ever received for noise was with my 59 Impala. (Hated that car!!!) Oooops I forgot the time we were cruising the local drive ins and someone talked me into uncapping my headers on my 65 Coronet 440 4 speed with the 462 street wedge and I pulled out and lit my tires up. Unfortunately the local police were hidden behind a building close to the Big Boy. If I had pulled over and put my header caps back on I would have only gotten a noise ticket but stupid me, I listened to my best friend and loped out of town and when I hit the city limits the lights came on but it was too late...Dropped it down to 2 nd and left them in the dust.
Stupid me forgot that the cops can write down a license plate number. But even stupider is to go back into town an hour later. Almost got jail time out of that. In 1965 a $150 fine was equal to close to 2 weeks pay. 
Luckily I got to pay it off in installments. My pregnant wife in court probably kept me from going to jail. Oh!!! another stupid thing to do is when the police stop you and say hey we couldn't get the radar gun on you fast enough, so tell me buddy how fast did you get this thing up to....Quote..." I don't know for sure but my buddy told me that I had the needle way past 120"....
Later
Bill

--- On Tue, 2/1/11, Gary Pavlovich <glpavlovich@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Gary Pavlovich <glpavlovich@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Racing Polys
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Tuesday, February 1, 2011, 6:20 PM
> 
> Bill,
> 
> Great story!  Did you notice an increase in power when
> your opened the 
> exhaust cutout or just got louder?
> 
> Gary
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "William Harrison" <bbjt3@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 5:35 AM
> Subject: Re: Racing Polys
> 
> 
> Jim and Gary
> My brother and I owned an ex state police 62 Dart with the
> 318 poly.
> We used to run it at the Bean Blossom Indiana track. 
> Ran the cut out that 
> clamped to the exhaust pipe with a choke pull cable to open
> and close it.
> Like you, we couldn't afford headers or other engine mods
> but that motor and 
> tranny were strong enough to pull the world. Had 3.23 open
> gears and wasn't 
> the best out of the hole but man could it pull at the top
> end.
> It is close to the top of my list of cars I would like
> back...
> Later
> Bill
> 
> --- On Mon, 1/31/11, Gary Pavlovich <glpavlovich@xxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Gary Pavlovich <glpavlovich@xxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: Racing Polys
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 12:16 AM
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > Very cool story on your Poly racing days. I would
> > love to own a 1962 Dodge Dart. While I like all the
> > 62-65 cars I would have to say the '62 Dart would be
> my
> > first pick and of course it would have a 402" Poly
> Stroker
> > motor in it.
> >
> > Thank you for sharing your history with us.
> > Gary Pavlovich
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Rowland"
> <dodge440@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 6:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: Racing Polys
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Don;
> > >
> > > I used to race my parents 1962 Dodge Dart, Sedan,
> at
> > Route 30 in Gary, IN. That car was a 318 stock 2
> Barrel. It
> > was a radio delete. It had an open rear end and I am
> > assuming it was 3;23 but it may have been a 2:
> > something because on the open road it would get
> between 17
> > and 20 mi. to the gallon. Also it was single exhaust
> > power steering and manual brakes. It ran in F/SA. It
> > was a 727 trans. It weighed exactly 3,000 lbs. Also,
> > stock 14 inch wheels.
> > >
> > > The first time I took it to the track i had a
> cutout
> > put on the exhaust, standard 6 inch by 2.5 inch
> > galvanized plumbing pipe and a screw on cap. Back in
> > the day it was against the law for a welder to weld a
> > cutout on a cars exhaust system if they were still on
> the
> > car. I found one in Chicago Heights, IL to do the
> job,
> > I even remember their name (The Brooks Brothers).
> Most
> > welders wanted you to take the exhaust pipe off the
> > car and then they would weld the cutout on it. The
> > pipe and cape ran about $1.25 and the welder charged
> me
> > about $2.50. He just cut a small hole in the exhaust
> > pipe and welded the pipe over the hole at a 45 degree
> > angle. The next step was a seat belt only on the
> > drivers side. Try explaining that to your
> > parents!!!!!! They will buy the safety logic but why
> for
> > only the driver. I forget what i told them, something
> > like I did not have the $ $ for two or the driver is
> > essential to getting help if there is an accident.
> What ever
> > it was they did not make me take it out.
> > >
> > > Anyway, everyone was going to be at there on
> opening
> > day, March of 63, and we were excited. I paid my fee
> > $3.00 and go to tech. They tell me to take a
> > hick until I get a drive shaft loop. thats when I
> > first learned about unibodies My buddies were running
> > Gm cars and they had the X frame, thus a drive shaft
> > catch. The next week I got two long threaded cheap
> > bolts 1/4" by 1 1/2 inch fine tread, several nuts and
> > a piece of steel probably 4'L x 1.5 W" from the trash
> > at the gas station. Located the spot on the floor
> > where the drive shaft was mostly still in the tunnel
> > hump. Drilled two holes though the floor dropped in
> > the bolts and put two nuts up to where they would
> keep
> > the steel piece of the drive shaft and then put the
> > other 2 nuts on after the small, and I mean
> > small. piece of metal.
> > >
> > > The next Sunday, i passed tech with flying
> colors. In
> > those days the rules said at some point the drive
> > shaft had to be encompassed for 360 degrees. It did
> > not say specifically what type of steel or what width
> > and thickness. If my dad saw it i would point out it
> was
> > another engineering safety feature that I read about
> > to make the car safer.
> > >
> > > We get to the line and i make my first ever pass
> and
> > with that cut out open I thought i was driving a max
> wedge.
> > I make my first pass and my time slip said about 16:45
> and
> > 80 something MPH. My buddy said i should let him
> drive
> > it. I forget his et but he upped the MPH over 90. I
> > was mad. I did not realize at the time that the MPH
> was 60
> > ft before and after the finish line. I do not think
> he
> > knew it ether and just kept his foot in it as long as
> > the engine was still climbing. It was not his car as
> > long as he could get it stopped. So i came back and
> > and made 3 or four runs with a best time in the 16:
> teens.
> > Every body always lost in that class to a 1958 Old's
> > 98 or 88 Convertibles, there were several, with the J
> > 2 option, 3 deuces. Man did they pull on the top end.
> > Kind of like how the Hemis would fly by the
> Thunderbolts
> > in mid to late 64. Never did win a trophy with that
> > car. I never realized until much later i was always
> > smoking the right rear way too much.
> > >
> > > That is one of my other poly stories.
> > >
> > > Just a side note and I will sign off. I would
> race a
> > friends 64 Pontiac Cat. three on the tree 389 2
> > door with a deuce and he would always beat me by
> > about 3 bumpers. If I opened up the cutout I would
> > have him by usually 2 to 3 cars. I kept telling him to
> put
> > on a cutout.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > 1965 Coronet 440CI
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The next week we took a couple of long bolts
> > > On Jan 30, 2011, at 6:49 PM, Donald Gallimore
> wrote:h
> > >
> > > Gary P wanted to know who raced polys.
> > >
> > > Back around 1970, my brother and I raced a 318
> Poly in
> > IHRA/AHRA Pure Stock.
> > > Pretty much a stock set-up in a 1965 Belvedere
> > 1. With a slipping tranny, we
> > > set the National Record. Best run was a 15.96 in
> > L/SA. This was in legal
> > > trim. Back then that was a very amazing
> > performance for a couple of guys with
> > > limited financial resources, if I can say so.
> > Would have been nice to see the
> > > performance if we'd had a good tranny and the
> right
> > gears.
> > >
> > > Akron Don Gallimore
> > >
> > >
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