RE: headliner

[Dave64 <lt7dave@xxxxxxxxx>]

I guess it is a slow day here, Dave.  I'm at work, and my car is in winter hibernation, so no car work getting done by me today.  I do need to clean up the garage so I can get my truck in it, now that the car is out of there.  Maybe I'll cut out early and go do that.  LOL  Thanks for posting those pics.

Dave

--- On Wed, 11/17/10, David Bailey <bb64d440@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: David Bailey <bb64d440@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: headliner
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 1:44 PM
> 
> 
> 
>  Hi Steve,
> I was bored today with nothing to do…HAAA! So I thought I
> would reacquaint myself with Picupine and post something to
> the list. What’s going on? Is everyone working on their
> cars or what?
> http://www.picupine.com/15c4d84x
> Dave B
> 
>  
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > From: micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: headliner
> > Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:56:41 -0600
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks Dave and Joe, I think I have learned what I
> need to know. I will save 
> > all the replys and with the link Gary sent me , I
> think I can do this job 
> > myself when the time comes.
> > 
> > If that sail panel board is not available
> reproduction, maybe I can make 
> > that myself. Anyone have a pic of that board? Thanks 
> > again.................MO
> > 
> > {Steve Mick}
> > http://stevemick.shutterfly.com/pictures#Part%202
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "David Bailey" <bb64d440@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:04 AM
> > Subject: RE: headliner
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Quote - “I'm not sure if my calling them sail panels
> is correct.” Close 
> > enough for me Steve! That “dark stiff fiberboard”
> that the lights were 
> > attached to if not broken away, would have the same
> shape of the entire sail 
> > panel (C pillar) area. The board material was the
> backing used with some ¼ 
> > inch or so of insulation on it much like the other
> insulation pads 
> > throughout the car - under the dash and kick panels
> etc. As per your 
> > description and my memory, I believe as you said, the
> insulation side of the 
> > “board” was against the C pillar with some
> adhesive and the light base / 
> > socket mounted on top of the board helping to hold it
> in place. Then the 
> > headliner material covered all that with the lens and
> bezel to finish it 
> > off. I believe Joe B. answered the attachment of the
> liner itself nicely, 
> > thanks.
> > While on the insulation thing, there was also a sheet
> of maybe 3 / 8 inch 
> > thick non-backed insulation cemented to the underside
> of the roof. I don’t 
> > know if this or the C pillar insulation is available
> or not. But I will need 
> > it (or something) in the future. Does anyone else
> know? Joe?
> > Thanks,
> > Dave B
> > 
> > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > From: micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: headliner
> > > Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 23:37:42 -0600
> > >
> > >
> > > Dave, I'm not sure if my calling them sail panels
> is correct. My
> > > headliner was completly missing and back on the
> pillar was the two 
> > > interior
> > > lights and part of a dark stiff fiberboard. that
> the lights were attached 
> > > to
> > > . The rest of it was broken away on both sides. I
> did not see any
> > > insulation unless that was the board itself. As
> for the headliner material
> > > over that area, there are gripper teeth by the
> sides of the rear window, 
> > > but
> > > I did not see how the headliner material woud
> attach on the front side of
> > > the two lights
> > >
> > > As for the clips on e-bay, I don't remember what
> they looked like, but
> > > there were several more than two. My bet is that
> they were for something
> > > other than B body or for a later year than 1964.
> Thanks for the
> > > help.......................MO
> > >
> > > {Steve Mick}
> > > http://stevemick.shutterfly.com/pictures#Part%202
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "David Bailey" <bb64d440@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 6:56 PM
> > > Subject: RE: headliner
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > “…are the sail-panels where the two interior
> pillar light mount, available
> > > reproduction?”
> > > Are you referring to the insulation for the sail
> panels? If so, that’s a
> > > good question. I would think if these were
> available Joe Suchy would have
> > > them. I need to get those myself yet. If that’s
> what you need and find 
> > > them
> > > would you let me know please?
> > > And oh by the way, I’m glad you had those bow
> clips, they might be though 
> > > to
> > > find. Are they the same that you said you saw on
> Ebay?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Dave B
> > >
> > >
> > > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > > From: micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: Re: headliner
> > > > Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:14:47 -0600
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks alot Dave, Now I can put that off my
> "to do" list. I think I have
> > > > all parts for the headliner.
> > > >
> > > > OH, one other thing are the sail-panels
> where the two interior pillar
> > > > light
> > > > mount, available
> reproduction?.................MO
> > > > .
> > > > {Steve Mick}
> > > > http://stevemick.shutterfly.com/pictures#Part%202
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "David Bailey" <bb64d440@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 3:22 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: headliner
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Now what I am asking about is there some
> kind of clips that go on the
> > > > ends
> > > > of the other bows, possibly to keep the
> headliner in place"?
> > > > No I don’t think there is Mo, at least
> there weren’t any in my car when 
> > > > I
> > > > took it apart and there was no apperent
> problem. The headliner and
> > > > everything looked fine and original
> including the dry-rotted fabrick.
> > > > Dave B
> > > >
> > > > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > From: micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: Re: headliner
> > > > > Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 13:14:56 -0600
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Dave, after finding out what
> these rear bow clips look like, I
> > > > > did
> > > > > find that I had them and didn't know
> what they did. Good thing I save
> > > > > everything :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Now what I am asking about, is there
> some kind of clips that go on the
> > > > > ends
> > > > > of the other bows, possibly to keep the
> headliner in place? I know the
> > > > > bows
> > > > > go into little pockets in the side
> "sawtooth" bracket. The reason I 
> > > > > ask
> > > > > is
> > > > > because the clips were mentioned in a
> "how to" artical. That artical 
> > > > > was
> > > > > not
> > > > > year specific. May be for something
> later. Any more info?
> > > > > ..Thanks.........MO
> > > > >
> > > > > {Steve Mick}
> > > > > http://stevemick.shutterfly.com/pictures#Part%202
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > > From: "David Bailey" <bb64d440@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 6:24
> AM
> > > > > Subject: RE: headliner
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Mo,
> > > > > In answer to your question for the rear
> most headliner bow clips, 
> > > > > (“does
> > > > > my
> > > > > car need those clips and what do they
> look like?”) - Yes - you will 
> > > > > need
> > > > > them. You said you found the bows lying
> lose in the trunk. When the
> > > > > person
> > > > > removed the bows from the old liner, he
> almost certainly would have 
> > > > > had
> > > > > to
> > > > > take at least one clip off the bow end
> in order to pull the bow wire 
> > > > > out
> > > > > through the headliner loop. A
> conscientious person should have placed 
> > > > > it
> > > > > right back on so as not to lose it.
> Even so, these clips do not grip 
> > > > > the
> > > > > wire all that tightly so my thought is
> you just might be lucky enough 
> > > > > to
> > > > > find one or both somewhere in the trunk
> area. Like down in where the
> > > > > trunk
> > > > > floor drops-off at the quarter panel,
> or back around the tail
> > > > > panel/taillight framing area? They’re
> worth a good hard look all 
> > > > > around.
> > > > > And what do they look like? Appearance
> wise, (a flagpole holder?) they
> > > > > remind me of the old 90-degree spark
> plug wire clips we used to use to
> > > > > make
> > > > > our own custom length wires (remember
> that?). If those are still made
> > > > > these
> > > > > days, you might be able to modify a
> pair of those to use (?).
> > > > > Hummm?
> > > > > Dave B.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > From: micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: headliner
> > > > > > Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 21:06:20
> -0600
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello there! On my 64 Dodge B body
> 2 dr hdtp--. My headliner bows 
> > > > > > were
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > installed when I got it. I
> figgered where the bows go and with help
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > list members, found out about how
> the back bow attaches to the 
> > > > > > sides.
> > > > > > A
> > > > > > 4
> > > > > > door shares those two little "flag
> pole holders" I was reading a" 
> > > > > > how
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > "artical on Installation. and it
> said to install the clips on each 
> > > > > > end
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > the bow when tightening the
> material. Does my car need those clips 
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > what do they look like?? In the
> past I have seen on e-bay headliner
> > > > > > clips
> > > > > > . But I didn't know if I might
> need them Any info will be
> > > > > > appreciated..............MO
> > > > > > {Steve Mick}
> > > > > > http://stevemick.shutterfly.com/pictures#Part%202
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