Re: headliner

[Joseph Bitterman <furyrestored@xxxxxxxxx>]

there are people on ebay just type in roof insulation that sell the insulation that cements to the roof  i used fat mat and cut it in 6 inch wide strips as they  recomend because i bought a box and there was plenty left after i did my floors much cheaper than the other matts and its the same quality stuff it cost me around 100 bucks and i did my complete floor inner firewall and roof and still have some left the other extreme matt and cant think of the other name but they were over 100 bucks for a few square feet unreal   

--- On Mon, 11/15/10, MO ( Steve Mick) <micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: MO ( Steve Mick) <micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: headliner
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Monday, November 15, 2010, 11:56 AM
> 
> Thanks Dave and Joe, I think I have learned what I need to
> know. I will save all the replys and with the link Gary sent
> me , I think I can do this job myself when the time comes.
> 
> If that sail panel board is not available reproduction,
> maybe I can make that myself. Anyone have a pic of that
> board? Thanks again.................MO
> 
> {Steve Mick}
> http://stevemick.shutterfly.com/pictures#Part%202
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Bailey" <bb64d440@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 8:04 AM
> Subject: RE: headliner
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Quote - “I'm not sure if my calling them sail panels is
> correct.” Close enough for me Steve! That “dark stiff
> fiberboard” that the lights were attached to if not broken
> away, would have the same shape of the entire sail panel (C
> pillar) area. The board material was the backing used with
> some ¼ inch or so of insulation on it much like the other
> insulation pads throughout the car - under the dash and kick
> panels etc. As per your description and my memory, I believe
> as you said, the insulation side of the “board” was
> against the C pillar with some adhesive and the light base /
> socket mounted on top of the board helping to hold it in
> place. Then the headliner material covered all that with the
> lens and bezel to finish it off. I believe Joe B. answered
> the attachment of the liner itself nicely, thanks.
> While on the insulation thing, there was also a sheet of
> maybe 3 / 8 inch thick non-backed insulation cemented to the
> underside of the roof. I don’t know if this or the C
> pillar insulation is available or not. But I will need it
> (or something) in the future. Does anyone else know? Joe?
> Thanks,
> Dave B
> 
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > From: micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: headliner
> > Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 23:37:42 -0600
> > 
> > 
> > Dave, I'm not sure if my calling them sail panels is
> correct. My
> > headliner was completly missing and back on the pillar
> was the two interior
> > lights and part of a dark stiff fiberboard. that the
> lights were attached to
> > . The rest of it was broken away on both sides. I did
> not see any
> > insulation unless that was the board itself. As for
> the headliner material
> > over that area, there are gripper teeth by the sides
> of the rear window, but
> > I did not see how the headliner material woud attach
> on the front side of
> > the two lights
> > 
> > As for the clips on e-bay, I don't remember what they
> looked like, but
> > there were several more than two. My bet is that they
> were for something
> > other than B body or for a later year than 1964.
> Thanks for the
> > help.......................MO
> > 
> > {Steve Mick}
> > http://stevemick.shutterfly.com/pictures#Part%202
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Bailey"
> <bb64d440@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 6:56 PM
> > Subject: RE: headliner
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > “…are the sail-panels where the two interior
> pillar light mount, available
> > reproduction?”
> > Are you referring to the insulation for the sail
> panels? If so, that’s a
> > good question. I would think if these were available
> Joe Suchy would have
> > them. I need to get those myself yet. If that’s what
> you need and find them
> > would you let me know please?
> > And oh by the way, I’m glad you had those bow clips,
> they might be though to
> > find. Are they the same that you said you saw on
> Ebay?
> > Thanks,
> > Dave B
> > 
> > 
> > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > From: micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: headliner
> > > Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:14:47 -0600
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks alot Dave, Now I can put that off my "to
> do" list. I think I have
> > > all parts for the headliner.
> > >
> > > OH, one other thing are the sail-panels where the
> two interior pillar
> > > light
> > > mount, available
> reproduction?.................MO
> > > .
> > > {Steve Mick}
> > > http://stevemick.shutterfly.com/pictures#Part%202
> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David
> Bailey" <bb64d440@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 3:22 PM
> > > Subject: RE: headliner
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Now what I am asking about is there some kind of
> clips that go on the
> > > ends
> > > of the other bows, possibly to keep the headliner
> in place"?
> > > No I don’t think there is Mo, at least there
> weren’t any in my car when > I
> > > took it apart and there was no apperent problem.
> The headliner and
> > > everything looked fine and original including the
> dry-rotted fabrick.
> > > Dave B
> > >
> > > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > > From: micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: Re: headliner
> > > > Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 13:14:56 -0600
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Dave, after finding out what these
> rear bow clips look like, I
> > > > did
> > > > find that I had them and didn't know what
> they did. Good thing I save
> > > > everything :-)
> > > >
> > > > Now what I am asking about, is there some
> kind of clips that go on the
> > > > ends
> > > > of the other bows, possibly to keep the
> headliner in place? I know the
> > > > bows
> > > > go into little pockets in the side
> "sawtooth" bracket. The reason I > > ask
> > > > is
> > > > because the clips were mentioned in a "how
> to" artical. That artical > > was
> > > > not
> > > > year specific. May be for something later.
> Any more info?
> > > > ..Thanks.........MO
> > > >
> > > > {Steve Mick}
> > > > http://stevemick.shutterfly.com/pictures#Part%202
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From:
> "David Bailey" <bb64d440@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 6:24 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: headliner
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Mo,
> > > > In answer to your question for the rear most
> headliner bow clips, > > (“does
> > > > my
> > > > car need those clips and what do they look
> like?”) - Yes - you will > > need
> > > > them. You said you found the bows lying lose
> in the trunk. When the
> > > > person
> > > > removed the bows from the old liner, he
> almost certainly would have > > had
> > > > to
> > > > take at least one clip off the bow end in
> order to pull the bow wire > > out
> > > > through the headliner loop. A conscientious
> person should have placed > > it
> > > > right back on so as not to lose it. Even so,
> these clips do not grip > > the
> > > > wire all that tightly so my thought is you
> just might be lucky enough > > to
> > > > find one or both somewhere in the trunk
> area. Like down in where the
> > > > trunk
> > > > floor drops-off at the quarter panel, or
> back around the tail
> > > > panel/taillight framing area? They’re
> worth a good hard look all > > around.
> > > > And what do they look like? Appearance wise,
> (a flagpole holder?) they
> > > > remind me of the old 90-degree spark plug
> wire clips we used to use to
> > > > make
> > > > our own custom length wires (remember
> that?). If those are still made
> > > > these
> > > > days, you might be able to modify a pair of
> those to use (?).
> > > > Hummm?
> > > > Dave B.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > From: micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: headliner
> > > > > Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 21:06:20 -0600
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello there! On my 64 Dodge B body 2 dr
> hdtp--. My headliner bows > > > were
> > > > > not
> > > > > installed when I got it. I figgered
> where the bows go and with help
> > > > > from
> > > > > list members, found out about how the
> back bow attaches to the > > > sides.
> > > > > A
> > > > > 4
> > > > > door shares those two little "flag pole
> holders" I was reading a" > > > how
> > > > > to
> > > > > "artical on Installation. and it said
> to install the clips on each > > > end
> > > > > of
> > > > > the bow when tightening the material.
> Does my car need those clips > > > and
> > > > > what do they look like?? In the past I
> have seen on e-bay headliner
> > > > > clips
> > > > > . But I didn't know if I might need
> them Any info will be
> > > > > appreciated..............MO
> > > > > {Steve Mick}
> > > > > http://stevemick.shutterfly.com/pictures#Part%202
> > > > >
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