Re: Just Suspension

[William Harrison <bbjt3@xxxxxxxxx>]

Better off going to Auto Zone or NAPA and getting new bushings.
They are inexpensive and you won't have to worry about messing up the ones in the tubular arms.
Later
Bill Harrison
65 Coronet 2 dr post

--- On Mon, 8/9/10, Brian Safford <hzf9vv@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Brian Safford <hzf9vv@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Just Suspension
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Monday, August 9, 2010, 9:01 PM
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> Nothing really prompted me - I figured the newer style
> tubular arms
> were *better* ...
> 
> I still have the original ones - is it possible to remove
> the new
> bushings from the tubular arms and install them in the
> factory arms?
> I have that tool kit with all the special tools for doing
> that ...
> just wonder if the new bushings would be re-usable after
> removing
> them.
> 
> Brian
> 
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Steven Charette
> <stevec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, an alignment will definitely be in order.
> >
> > Just out of curiousity - what prompted you to go with
> the tubular arms?  Do
> > you race the car?
> >
> > SC
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brian Safford [mailto:hzf9vv@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 6:26 PM
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: Just Suspension
> >
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> > I suppose I could try a bunch of things :-)
> >
> > I wondered if I should have assembled the boot, left
> the ball joint pointing
> > straight down and connected the top of the spindle
> first, compressing the
> > boot with it straight on, then connecting the lower
> ball joint.
> >
> > None of this makes me very happy as I will have to
> mess up a perfectly good
> > alignment ( I think, anyway ) to take stuff apart and
> try this.
> >
> > Thanks for the tips - perhaps once I cool off a bit (
> or it starts raining
> > for days at a time ) I'll take stuff apart and see
> what happens.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Steven Charette
> > <stevec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Gotcha.
> >>
> >> I definitely would shy away from grinding on the
> control arm in any way.
> >> What about either A) some form of adhesive to help
> the boot grip, B) a
> >> tie-wrap to help clamp the boot to the control
> arm, or C) building up
> >> the area with epoxy or a durable metal tape, or
> something to make the
> >> interference fit tighter?  Another thought might
> be to carefully peen
> >> the edges of the existing lip over to give you
> better retention?
> >>
> >> Can you measure the diameter of the sealing
> surface and the diameter
> >> of the retaining lip with a pair of calipers to
> see exactly where the
> > problem lies?
> >>
> >> SC
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Brian Safford [mailto:hzf9vv@xxxxxxxxx]
> >> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 5:24 PM
> >> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: Just Suspension
> >>
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> >> The issue is that with these control arms ( not
> sure if the originals
> >> were like this ), the ball joint swivels to a
> pretty severe angle
> >> which compresses one side of the boot. This makes
> the other side tend
> >> to pull away.
> >>
> >> I assembled each side exactly the same - passenger
> side boot stays on,
> >> drivers side boot pops off as soon as you move the
> ball joint stud to
> >> where it needs to be in order to insert it in the
> spindle.
> >>
> >> Brian
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Steven Charette
> >> <stevec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Brian,
> >>>        I understand your frustration but
> have a question... once
> >>> assembled will there be any possibility of the
> boot popping loose
> >>> from the
> >> joint?
> >>> Unless I'm mistaken there would be sufficient
> compression of the boot
> >>> to keep it seated on the joint, or am I
> reading this wrong?
> >>>
> >>> SC
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Brian Safford [mailto:hzf9vv@xxxxxxxxx]
> >>> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 4:14 PM
> >>> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Subject: Just Suspension
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Well, this is pretty bogus in my opinion.
> >>>
> >>> The driver's side tubular control arm / ball
> joint I received from
> >>> Just Suspension didn't have enough of a lip on
> it to properly hold
> >>> the rubber boot. I had no problem at all with
> the passenger side
> >>> assembly
> >>> - at least 1/8" or better there.
> >>>
> >>> So I called them about a month ago and
> complained, and they were very
> >>> apologetic, understood exactly what I was
> saying, and agreed to send
> >>> me a fully assembled replacement as I didn't
> think I should have to
> >>> assemble it myself given it was their issue.
> >>>
> >>> The replacement showed up today ... with less
> than 1/16" of lip for
> >>> the boot
> >>> - same problem as before, not enough surface
> friction to hold it on
> >>> when the ball joint moves much past vertical.
> >>>
> >>> So I call them again ... again, very
> apologetic and understand why
> >>> I'd be upset, but you know, since these are
> such low cost control
> >>> arms you just have to accept the fact that
> there will be production
> >>> variances outside of their control ...
> >>>
> >>> Wow.
> >>>
> >>> They agreed to send me a FedEx label so I can
> ship it back at no cost
> >>> and get a full refund.
> >>>
> >>> Here's my question to you folks ... do you
> think I can take the one I
> >>> have to a shop ( or just grind it myself ) and
> grind off enough of
> >>> the ring so the boot will fit better without
> causing any strength or
> >>> reliability issues to the control arm
> assembly?
> >>>
> >>> I'm also considering cleaning off my original
> equipment control arms
> >>> and installing them instead.
> >>>
> >>> Last piece of business I will *ever* do with
> Just Suspension.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Brian Safford
> >>> '62 Dart 440 / Poly 318
> >>>
> >>>
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