RE: Latest findings

[Rich Kinsley <rlkinsley@xxxxxxxxx>]

Just a clarification, it's not the crank pulley that I intend to change. 
It's the fan pulley. That will only affect the fan and pump and increase 
speed of both. However I'm not that interested in increasing the pump as 
I don't want the water going through the radiator too fast. It has to be 
there long enough to actually cool it.

Nick mentioned raising the back of the hood as we did back then. That 
will help I do believe.

Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies
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Steve Charette wrote:
> 
> Rich,
> 	I have a similar problem with my Barracuda (with a Max Wedge)...
> with the hood off it ran cool as a cucumber but with the hood on the 
> temp
> would creep.  If I drove it long enough, it would run right up to 230+ 
> by
> the time I'd panic and shut it off or pull the hood.  It seemed like 
> there
> was plenty of air coming in (we did the paper test as well).  We also
> wondered about the hood scoop pressurizing the engine compartment, 
> causing
> lack of air flow through the radiator.  An air plenum sealing the carbs 
> to
> the hood didn't help, so we ruled that out.  
> 
> 	Along the way we also tried 3 different high volume water pumps, a
> different housing, various thermostats, and even an electric water pump 
> and
> cooling fan, all with similar results.  The fan shroud seemed to help, 
> but
> at this point we've concluded that the problem was getting the hot air 
> out
> of the engine compartment.
> 
> 	Thinking about it, you have a 4 square foot hole in the front of the
> car (the radiator opening) with a fan to pull the air through it when 
> air
> isn't being forced through it going down the road.  Looking around the 
> rest
> of the engine compartment, I'm not seeing nearly that much room to allow 
> the
> air out - removing the hood apparently creates the needed space to 
> evacuate
> the hot air pulled through the radiator.
> 	
> 	BTW, the smaller crank pulley slows the water pump down, so you may
> want to stick with the larger one... that's one of the changes we're 
> making
> this year - a larger stock size pulley to replace the "trick" small 
> aluminum
> piece. 
> 
> As usual, my $.02...
> SC
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rich Kinsley [mailto:rlkinsley@xxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 10:28 PM
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Latest findings
> 
> 
> I don't really have any room in that area on my car. The horns take up 
> one
> side and my radiator is wider than the old one. The batt box is in the 
> way
> too. Multi holes is probably fine. I have thought about removing the 
> misc
> access plates along the inner fender area, etc.. I ran without them for
> quite awhile and decided to put them back in. I think some ducts under 
> the
> front bumper directing air back and up would be good too.
> 
> I still would like to do a fan shroud and a smaller pulley. Although I 
> stuck
> a sheet of paper near the front of the radiator and it sucked it up to 
> the
> radiator at idle. There is air movement. 
> 
> Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies
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> Ollie wrote:
> > 
> > Great news and still issues...but u have made headway Rich!
> > We talked about more air to the eng compartment. After studying the 
> > situation....what u think of this? I want to go to Lowes and get the 
> > biggest bit I can for my 1/2 drill and make the radiator support 
> > shield look like swiss cheese directly behind the grill. I am open for 
> > your thoughts?
> > Ollie
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rich Kinsley" <rlkinsley@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 3:25 PM
> > Subject: Latest findings
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies
> > >
> > > Well I took the hood off my car. That settled the underhood heat issue.
> > > It runs almost cold now. Engine heat is not an issue and the carbs 
> > > are very cool. The fuel line is a little hot but should be OK.
> > >
> > > I let it idle a long time to give it a good test. Everything nice 
> > > and cool. Then I took it for a drive. I went to NAPA. Then was 
> > > headed down the street to Office Depot. It died on me as I was 
> > > taking off from a stop light in a big intersection (132/L). Luckily 
> > > I coasted across. It would not fire. It set about 2 minutes (felt 
> > > like a loooong time) and then it did fire up. Then after I got it 
> > > going again it started breaking up on me again. Popping and sputting. I
> know that ignition is OK now.
> > > The heat isn't a big deal either. I believe now that the carbs may 
> > > be slopping too much gas in the manifold. I did see some laying in 
> > > the plenum before. I'll go back in and rethink the set-up again. 
> > > Firstly I'm going to reduce the accel pump nozzles back to where 
> > > they were. I'll get this licked yet !!!!
> > >
> > >
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> 
> 
> Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies
> 
> 
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Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies


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