Re: Fw: LONG RAM MANIFOLDS

[William Lewis <reatawhippets@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I had two buddies in the 1960-61 SF Bay Area, one had a '59 Sport Fury with 
361 single 4bbl Golden Commando and another with a 4dr hardtop '60 Dart with 
383 long ram 2 X 4bbl.  They raced at Half Moon Bay and Cotati Drag Strips 
and though they ran in different classes (Sport Fury NSA and Dart SSA), the 
Long Ram Dart could never sport an ET (nor the Trophies) of the GC '59 Sport 
Fury.  You probably needed Bonneville to get the benefits of those Long Ram 
manifolds.  Sure looked awesome, though.

Jack Lewis
56 Plymouth Fury
62 Dodge Polara 500
http://home.att.net/~furyjack/wsb/index.html


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jimmy Peavy" <peaver63@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: LONG RAM MANIFOLDS


> You are right that they weren't used for drag racing.
> I might add that they weren't used successfully for drag racing, but I'm 
> sure a few were tried, and used.
> I think it would probably be more accurate statement to say that most were 
> used on the street.
> I remember watching the CBS evening news and seeing a news item on the 
> long rams, when they were introduced.
> They were so unusual that Walter Cronkite couldn't pass on mentioning 
> their introduction.
> They were used to provide massive amounts of torque to the heavy Chrysler 
> cars, and Plymouths, Dodges in the late 50's and early 60's.
> Some may have been used at Bonneville, but I'm not sure that they were 
> successful.
> Most of the talk in the days of Bonneville at that time was centered 
> around stream liners like Challenger I and II.
> I can't remember much written about the stock bodied cars in those days.
> There weren't many magazines in those days, other that Hot Rod, Car Craft, 
> etc.
> Most of that coverage was about customs, and drag cars.
>
>   Jimmy
>
>
> Rich Kinsley wrote:
> > I know what you mean. The shorter ones were higher rpm's I think but I'm 
> > positive the long ones were used on the Bonneville cars and not on drag 
> > racing. I can find pictures I'm sure in my myriads of old magazines.
> > Rich Kinsley
> > =====================================================================
> > Jimmy Peavy wrote:
> >
> > > I thought they were for low end torque?
> > > That by 4500 rpm it was all over on power gains.
> > > I don't think that would be useful in a salt racer application.
> > >
> > >     Jimmy
> > >
> > > Rich Kinsley wrote:
> > >
> > > > As far as drag racing goes, I'm sure nobody used the long ram. They 
> > > > were
> > > > for top end like Bonneville. Norm Thatcher used them I believe on many 
> > > > early 60's Mopars and set quite a few records. The old Hot Rod magazine 
> > > > special, '60 Plymouth?, used them too I believe. The short ram was the 
> > > > right stuff for dragging. I was talking to an old Timer who said he was 
> > > > a factory racer in the day and he made his own manifold at the perfect 
> > > > length, 19" or 20"?, runners. Then he said they built them that way 
> > > > after his. I was talking to this guy here in Omaha at a car show about 
> > > > 3
> > > > years ago. Take it for what it's worth.?
> > > > Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies
> >
> >
> >
> > Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies
> >
> >
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