Re: 1956 Desoto Adventurer Dual Quad Hemi Engine ID Number???

[musclecarguy1@xxxxxxxxx]

No, I am not sure it is a 330. I saw a shop manula there that the guy was pointing at 330 cu inch in the front of the manual. It is a 56 Adventurer 2 door hardtop sitting in his garage with a hemi in it with 2-4's sitting on a dual quad intake. This is all I know at this point. If indeed the Adventurer in 56 came with a 341, than what he is now trying to do is validate the engine in this car by serial numbers or engine designation stamping. He claims the pad directly behind the water pump (the engine boss) is blank. The Convertible next to it has the markings, but not the Hardtop. I had suggested that maybe the block was a replacement. But I told him I'd ask here for some help. Any suggestions are appreciated guys, Thanks, Lyle 


--- On Sun, 1/4/09, Wakeman Massie <wakey@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Wakeman Massie <wakey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: 1956 Desoto Adventurer Dual Quad Hemi Engine ID Number???
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 11:23 AM
> Also - Are you sure its a 330?  According to my info, the
> 330 was only made in '56 and in 2bbl (firedome) and 4bbl
> (fireflite) configs.  If your engine really has 2x4bbl carbs
> on a factory manifold, either they were swapped on, or you
> have a 341 (Adventurer), which is engine #S24A and casting
> #1856629.
> 
> Look for a date code too, which could suggest - but not
> 100% confirm - if the block is original to the car.  For
> instance, I once had a '67 Fury III wagon with a factory
> 440 (rare), the block was unstamped but dated late '66,
> which is what it should be.  But with a little digging I
> found an aluminum "factory replacement engine" tag
> riveted to the block, which says to me the original engine
> blew up for one reason or another very soon after purchase.
> 
> good luck
> 
> Wakeman
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wakeman
> Massie" <wakey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 10:38 AM
> Subject: Re: 1956 Desoto Adventurer Dual Quad Hemi Engine
> ID Number???
> 
> 
> > 
> > The casting number for a '56 Desoto 330 Hemi block
> is 1636629.  On Dodge and Chrysler blocks, the casting
> number can be found on the driver's side top of the
> block, in the narrow space between the deck and the lifter
> valley cover. I would assume this to be the case for DeSotos
> as well but cannot be 100% certain.  It may be on the other
> side, and in any event may be tough to see with the intake
> installed..  but it will definitely be somewhere...
> > 
> > Good Luck.
> > 
> > Wakeman
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- From:
> <musclecarguy1@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 8:44 AM
> > Subject: 1956 Desoto Adventurer Dual Quad Hemi Engine
> ID Number???
> > 
> > 
> >> 
> >> My neighbor by the shop has both a 56 Desoto
> Adventurer 2 Door Hardtop, and a Convertible. Both are
> supposedly original engined cars having 330cu inch
> Hemi's with dual quads. The convertible has the engine
> ID number located where the book shows it should be
> "directly behind the water pump on the boss" The
> hardtop has the boss there but no numbers. Is there another
> place he could look? Is there a chance this was a
> replacement block or something? Any ideas ???  Thanks in
> advance Guys!  Lyle in Montana
> >> 
> >> 
> >> --- On Sat, 1/3/09, musclecarguy1@xxxxxxxxx
> <musclecarguy1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> From: musclecarguy1@xxxxxxxxx
> <musclecarguy1@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Subject: Re: Dual fours! yes
> >>> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Date: Saturday, January 3, 2009, 9:25 PM
> >>> Yup, looks like that one. Only difference I
> can tell is mine
> >>> is for a RB block where that one is for a B
> block. I'd
> >>> give the $200.00 roughly that that manifold
> sold for with
> >>> freight, just to have it. They are out there,
> just gotta
> >>> watch for them.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> --- On Sat, 1/3/09, Gary H.
> <spigot2039@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> > From: Gary H.
> <spigot2039@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> > Subject: Re: Dual fours! yes
> >>> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> >>> > Date: Saturday, January 3, 2009, 3:47 PM
> >>> > Is it like this one?
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MOPAR-58-62-350-383-DUAL-QUAD-INTAKE-MANIFOLD-1827899_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a543Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem120351384553QQitemZ120351384553QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Gary H.
> >>> >
> >>> > -----Original Message----- >
> >>> > >I went out in the garage today and
> looked at my
> >>> 2-4
> >>> > manifold. It is a casting number
> 1854817-1 date code
> >>> 8-11-8.
> >>> > So from what I know it is a 1959 413
> manifold. My
> >>> carbs are
> >>> > both 1964 426 wedge afb's. I know its
> not worth
> >>> much,
> >>> > but I wanna hang on to this one. I'm
> sure one will
> >>> show
> >>> > up on ebay though.  Lyle
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