Wakeman, Thanks for the information. I appreciate it. Obviously I must do additional research. Take Care. Jimmie in Northern California 1970 Dodge Dart Swinger 340-4spd, Go Mango in color (original paint) http://www.flickr.com/photos/12601467@N08/ 1965 Plymouth Belvedere Station Wagon 360-Auto/To be a 440 (Current Project) 2001 Chrysler Concorde LXI "Rose" (Wife's car) 2006 RAM 3500 4X4 Mega Cab Cummins Diesel Pickup----- Original Message ----- From: "Wakeman Massie" <wakey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 5:20 PM Subject: Re: Sure Grip for sale
Jimmie, if the '65 Belevdere rearend you plan to upgrade is from the so-to-be-440 powered wagon you list in your sig, a 741 case is not a good choice to invest in. The pinion stem was not designed to support the torque even a mild 440 will produce, especially in a 3900lb vehicle. Furthermore, unless you have some good used gears or NOS gearsets, 741 ring and pinions are unavilable and have zero aftermarket support. There is a reason for this. The Chrysler 8 3/4 guide penned by a person nicknamed Vaanth is essential reading - Google it. It explains clearly the different cases and their strengths and weaknesses. If you want to go for a sure-grip - which is a great idea - I'd look for a 742 (my choice) or a later 489 case (biggest pinion stem). Either of these will be more than adequate unless your 440 is a really wild one. Best Regards Wakeman----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmie" <jimmieam@xxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 5:48 PM Subject: Re: Sure Grip for saleGary, So this would change my 1-legged 741 on my '65 Belvedere into sure grip? Do I leave my current high geared ring and pinion in. Would this then be the time to get a lower geared rear end? What does this entail?? And finally How much? Thanks again as always. Take Care, Jimmie in Northern California 1970 Dodge Dart Swinger 340-4spd, Go Mango in color (original paint) http://www.flickr.com/photos/12601467@N08/ 1965 Plymouth Belvedere Station Wagon 360-Auto/To be a 440 (Current Project) 2001 Chrysler Concorde LXI "Rose" (Wife's car) 2006 RAM 3500 4X4 Mega Cab Cummins Diesel Pickup----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Pavlovich" <glpavlovich@xxxxxxx>To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 3:24 PM Subject: Sure Grip for saleMail List members, I have one clutch style Sure Grip available for any of the Mopar 8 3/4" third member cases (741, 742, 489) rebuilt w/new clutches and ready to transform a one-legger into a Sure Grip rearend. Please e-mail me off-list with any interest. Thank you, Gary Pavlovich [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
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