yeah, that sort of looks like the one i saw once. I think i am just going to make one out of an old rocker arm, by welding an arm on and using the rocker arm as a fulcrum point off the rocker shaft. True, i will have to remove rocker shaft every two valves, but hey , theres only eight. neal zimmerman, eugene oregon ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.