OK so it looks like Lokar or Bouchillon. Now my next question is WHY? WHY are the mopars so sensitive about the kickdowns?? I understand the other brands dont need them but Torqueflites will" burn up" with out them. what does that mean exactly. all I ever hear are vague reasons like "you'll burn it up",not a good enuf answer for Mr. Busybody I want to know what actually happens in the tranny and why the other brands dont need them. Thanks. growing grumpier by the minute and hating my mopars even more, neal zimmerman, eugene Oregon -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. This email was sent to: arc.6265@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx . http://www/?p=