Exhaust size is a relative thing. Remember, the more horse power your making the more gas your putting out of the exhaust. The size of the pipes should be in proportion to the horse power output, and how you wish the exhaust to assist in that horse power development. This changes with volume at a given RPM. In a perfect world, you want the exhaust to assist with combustion chamber scavenging. This is not a perfect world, it is an RPM world. With any exhaust, the scavenging effect will occur within a narrow RPM range. We do custom programs for several teams that help them determine how to build exhaust to fit track and engine/car specifications. Race teams (NASCAR) will have several exhaust systems for different combos. The real key is velocity @ RPM. For a street car, start your thinking at your manifolds. If you have stock manifolds they have a relatively small tube size compared to a set of race headers. They also lack correct individual tube length and a collector to even make scavenging possible. So if you put a big exhaust pipe on a small outlet stock manifold, you kill the velocity of the exhaust gas flow. It gets all confused and breaks up, this is when you will hear people say "The big pipes killed my torque". Not really (but possibly), you just changed the RPM/velocity range to perhaps a scale that is beyond being effective for your motor. Next, think where your do most of your driving and where you really want your power. Most street cars do better with more torque than horse power. Give me a 440 with 650 FtLbs of torque and 500 HP over the reverse any day. It will win the street race. So in general for a street car, if you have headers under 2" in diameter, and a 3.5 inch collector, or a 3" collector, somewhere in the 2.25 to 2.5 inch exhaust will have better overall seat of the pants performance than the 3 to 3.5 inch range. You won't be killing the velocity. To big an exhaust will have an adverse effect on overall engine performance. It is best to error on the smaller side.. 1 7/8 to 1 3/4 is a good size for a street header. Exhaust flow is a very complicated subject. The software to figure out exhaust flow is very expensive, and it can take several days just to set up one study, at one RPM. If your running older, less efficient carbs, you will see more gains from headers and exhaust. If your running EFI, you will see less effect from exhaust headers, and they are more costly to produce small gains with EFI. Earl I though the general rule was (as stated by somebody, already) torque increases with larger diameter pipes and HP decreases. Mike ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. This email was sent to: arc.6265@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx bSONJP. Or send an email to: 1962to1965mopars-unsubscribe@