Re: Transmission 1964 Plymouth (was Re: Abridged summary of 1962t...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx - 4 Messages in 1 Topic)

[Bill Parker <hemirr@xxxxxxxxx>]

Gary I believe that the push button cables are the same for either 904 or 727, and you are right that the console cables are different from push button cables.  So the options are to install the complete Barracuda shifter with cables, change the valve body or the whole trans to a 62-64; change to a 66 or later trans with appropriate floor shifter or with Imperial Services conversion for the pushbuttons to operate the later trans if they are still doing the conversion. The late trans conversion for pushbuttons is more than a custom cable like it is for console; it involves sending the button mechanism in for mods.  

> On Mar 17, 2014, at 8:36 AM, "Gary H." <62to65mopar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Yes the '64 Plymouth had a 1965 904 from a Barracuda in it now. Besides the comb, there is the question of shifter cables. The cable travel of the console shifted '65 is different I think. If I recall correctly the '65 uses different shifter cables than a '64 Belvedere.
> 
> Another option is find a 1962-1964 LA TorqueFlite and use that. The Plymouth had a slant 6 before. Will the Slant  6 shifter cables work with a 318 and TorqueFlite?
> 
> Thanks,
> Gary H.  
> 
>> -------Original Message-------
>> From: Bill Parker  
>> 
>> Somewhere in this thread I thought I saw that the trans you are trying to
>> use is a 65. If that is correct, then you will need to put a '62-'64 valve
>> body in it because the shift detent "rooster comb" of the '65 valve body is
>> set up to work with the one year only transition column or floor shift. If
>> the trans is not a '65 then please ignore this.
>> 
>> On Mar 17, 2014, at 3:59 AM, james canfield  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> gary,  that's exactly right...   i'd much rather keep it original.  but i
>> cant grow old on this project either..   i drove the car into the garage as
>> a slant 6.   so i know it all works.   i'm stumped as to what's wrong with
>> the shifter...
>> 
>> 
>> On Saturday, March 15, 2014 11:25:38 AM UTC-4, 62to65mopar wrote: The 1964
>> Barracuda had either a 225 cu in slant six or a 273 cu in V8. No V8 bigger
>> than 273 was available as a special order in 1964.
>> 
>> Let me try to recap where I think you are.  You have a 1964 Plymouth
>> Belvedere "B" body with a Poly 318. The transmission is a cable-operated
>> 904. You can't get the push buttons to work with the 904. You are putting
>> bucket seats in the Belvedere. So that opens up the possibility of using a
>> console floor shift instead of using the push buttons.
>> 
>> If I got that right, then you can probably use any 727 TorqueFlite you find
>> behind a LA engine (273, 318, 340, 360) from 1966 up. Then you can put in a
>> aftermarket floor shift and have a custom driveshaft made.
>> 
>> [LINK: http://www.allpar.com/mopar/torqueflite.html]
>> http://www.allpar.com/mopar/torqueflite.html has a history of the
>> TorqueFlite transmission you can check out.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Gary H.
>> 
>>> -------Original Message-------
>>> From: james canfield
>>> 
>>> gary,  sorta right.   the poly block bolt pattern lines up all but 1
>> bolt.
>>> i had to cut 3/4" off and drill/tap to make it work.  just to get the
>>> starter to line up.    i should have given more details right off.    i
>> do
>>> have the 904 push button rebuilt and in the car,,i had to use the
>> tailshaft
>>> from the slant 6 tranny..   but can't get the shift cables calibrated.
>> i'd
>>> rather change it all. instead of tryin to use the buttons on a newer
>> 727.
>>> reason i want a console shifter too...i have to re-cover the seat
>> anyhow..
>>> may as well be comfy bucket's instead of the ol bench...      so my big
>>> problem would be.    the right tranny.    tail shaft length???
>> possibly
>>> a fury 2.   or charger?    cause i also will need the drive shaft..   or
>> 
>>> can i just swap out the bolt on yoke for a slip in?     the only thing i
>> 
>>> know for sure is that i shoulda done this years ago when i was much
>>> younger....
>>> 
>>> the tranny i got came from a 64 cuda.   with a 267 engine.     in those
>>> day's the slant 6 and the 267 was the standard engine in the
>> cuda/valiant.
>>> anything bigger had to be a special order...so i was told.
>> ...
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