Re: Fw: 440 head question

[MO <micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

 Thanks Chick!   I appreciate all info and that was a lot!  8-)  I did
bookmark the Huges website after your last info, but did not have time
to look at their wares.  I thought there was a seperat valley cover
and intake gaskets, but had been unable to find them.  Sounds like
Hughes is a very good source..................................MO

 On Jun 16, 6:45 pm, "Stephen Andrachek" <s.andrac...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> Yes, MO, that's exactly what I am saying.  Look up "Mancini's" on the web
> and "Hughes Engines" and see what they have.  That's what I have on my
> engine.  A seperate valley pan and seperate head gaskets with the sealer
> already installed around each port and sealed by a thin piece of plastic.
> About $15 for the head gaskets and about $35 for the valley cover.  The head
> gaskets do block the semi-circle holes you are talking about and it will
> take some heat out of the heads, especially during warmup and make the shot
> of gas going into your engine cooler and denser.  If you add a very good
> unrestricted air cleaner like an S&B or a  K&N along with the special
> gaskets you might have to jet your carb one size richer all the way around
> since more cool air will cause your motor to lean out if you don't add more
> gas to more air.
>
> Let me make it easy for you.  Here's a pic of the intake gaskets with the
> bead of silicone sealer already on it.  Price is $15, just like I guessed
> (same price as when I bought mine 4 years ago).
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>      HUG 3266
>       INTAKE GASKET W/ SILICONE SEAL
>
>       Here's the link to the page with the intake gaskets (page 1 of 99)
>      http://www.hughesengines.com/Index/products.php?browse=category&level...
>
> And here is the valley cover for a BB mopar engine from hughes:
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>      HUG 3273SS
>       1 PC. VALLEY COVER BB SINGLE PLANE
>
>       I hope this convinces everyone that they do exist.  I know because I
> have them on my car.
>
>       Here's the link to Hughes Engines.  They have 99 pages of parts listed
> for Mopar big blocks on their web site.  Look on the left hand side of the
> page and click on the first link to BB parts (as Hughes calls the 413, 426
> and 440 engines).   Just wanted to show you an example (and everyone else
> too, someone else might find this info useful).
>      http://www.hughesengines.com/Index/index.php
>
>       This link is to the page for the valley cover (page 34 of 99)
>        http://www.hughesengines.com/Index/products.php?browse=category&level...
>
>       As you browse through the parts on the Hughes Engines web site, look
> at the aluminum rocker arms and shafts.  No needle bearings and a true 1.5
> or 1.6 ratio instead of a stock mopars 1.37 rocker arm ratio.  $450 for the
> whole set, including pushrods.  You have to measure your pushrods with their
> adjustable pushrod with the rocker arm exactly half-way open by using a dial
> indicator, put the adjustable pushrod in and screw it out until it is tight
> and then send the adjustable pushrod back to Hughes and they will send you
> the right pushrods.  Hydralic lifters need a shorter pushrod than solid
> lifters.  Do this and BINGO, more HP without even changing the cam and
> lifters.  Stock Mopar rocker arms and shafts are both made of steel.   Steel
> on Steel is a recipe for disaster.  Now, aluminum rocker arms on a steel
> shaft are like bearings for your crankshaft.  The bearings must be softer
> than the crankshaft or your engine will seize up sooner rather than later.
> Hughes explains it all on their web site.  I'm no genius, I just remember
> what I read if it makes sense.  If it makes sense, I go with it.  NASCAR
> uses the aluminum rocker arms that are cyrogenically treated and are good
> for 9,000 rpm all day long.   They don't use rocker arms with needle
> bearings with fancy colors on them because if one needle bearing on one
> rocker arm fails they are out of the race.  The regular Hughs aluminum
> rocker arms that aren't "frozen" are $150 a set cheaper and are good for
> 7,000 rpm all day long.  Drag racers use Hughes rocker arms and shafts, race
> all season and only have to adjust their valves once at the beginning of the
> race season and once in the middle of the race season.  I don't plan on
> adjusting my rocker arms at all.   People with solid lifter cams who ran
> their engines hard used to adjust their rocker arms ONCE A WEEK!
>
>       This took a long time to do and I hope many on this site learned
> something new that will help them.  I never mind helping my fellow Mopar
> freaks.
>
>       Chick
>      $34.95
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "MO" <mic...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "The 1962 to 1965 Mopar Mail List Clubhouse"
>
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> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 4:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: 440 head question
>
> Thanks folks for the replys, but I am still a little befuddled,  I
> know the port that goes accross the intake, under the carb can be
> blocked off with an intake gasket,  What I am concered with is the big
> semi-circle holes arounf that port. in the head. looks like he** and a
> trap for dirt and small parts.  Are those also covered by the
> aftermarket intake gasket??
>
> To Chick:  are you saying that instead of the stock type valley cover/
> intakje gasket combo, that there is available a seperate valley cover
> and seperate intake gaskets? . Thanks...........MO
>
> On Jun 16, 11:53 am, "Stephen Andrachek" <s.andrac...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > My friend MO,
>
> > You are exactly right. You can block off the heat passage from the heads
> > to the intake by using the correct valley cover. You can get the valley
> > cover
> > from Hughes Engineering (Google them up) and very good intake gaskets off
> > of them too with a bead of silicon built in around each port.
>
> > To take things a little farther, if you put an Edelbrock Air Gap intake on
> > your car with a low-restriction air cleaner you will pick up a noticable
> > amount of torque and HP. But your engine is going to be a little
> > cold-blooded and will need a little warm up time that with the heat
> > passages blocked off.
>
> > Mancini's is also a great place to do business with. Both companies are
> > all
> > Mopar, all the time and will answer questions over the phone for you,
> > unlike
> > Indy Cylinder Head which does not want to talk to their customers at all.
> > They consider that annoying and will refuse to answer your questions.
>
> > Hope this helps you in some way.
>
> > Stephen "Chick" Andrachek
>
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "MO" <mic...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: "The 1962 to 1965 Mopar Mail List Clubhouse"
> > > <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:21 AM
> > > Subject: 440 head question
>
> > >> This is for a 1978 head.Intake side -1/2 way between the intake
> > >> ports. where the heat crossover port is. What does the semi-circle
> > >> pocket in the casting intended to do. And what can be done to hide
> > >> it? I would be using valley cover with blocked off heat port. Thanks
> > >> for any help......................MO
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