RE: external balance

[Jeff Adams <ledman_70@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Don, the bearing you're talking about can be bought at any Autozone or 
Advance store. I got a v6 Dakota bearing when I 4-speeded my 64 Polara 
with 426 wedge. It was about $9 and in stock. IIRC, you may need to saw 
a little off the input shaft as it's too long and goes so far into the 
crank it will bust the bh when tightened down (ask me how I know)!
Donald Gallimore wrote:
> 
> You do not have to bore the crank for the pilot bushing.There is a 
> bearing =
> that=A0can be put in the end of the crank to support the nose of the 4 
> spee=
> d input shaft.=A0 It presses into the=A0depression that the nose of the 
> con=
> verter fits into.=A0=A0 I remember getting it from NAPA but I'd bet 
> Brewers=
>  has it.=0A=0AProbably makes more sense for those who are swapping from 
>  an =
> auto to a 4 speed and=A0not=A0tearing down the engine.=0A=0AAkron Don 
> Galli=
> more=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0A> From: MO ( Steve Mick) 
> <mic=
> her@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>=0A> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx=0A> Sent: Sun, 
> Jun=
> e 13, 2010 2:26:13 AM=0A> Subject: Re: external balance=0A> =0A> =0AI 
> bough=
> t that 440 engine today . It is the cast crank without the crank =0A> 
> flang=
> e machined for pilot bearing.=A0 I will be using a 4 speed tranny, So I 
> =0A=
> > would have to machine for a pilot bearing and then find a flywheel for 
> > an=
>  =0A> external balance crank.=A0 I will eventually need a good standard 
>  fly=
> wheel =0A> for my 413 engine, and so would already have that.=A0 I 
> already =
> have the =0A> harmonic balancer for a internal balance engine. . Ny 
> thought=
>  is to change the =0A> crank to a internal balance one --Question-- if I 
>  do=
>  change cranks and use a =0A> regular flywheel and harmonic balancer, is 
>  th=
> ere anything eles that needs to be =0A> done?=A0 Will the balance be 
> within=
>  factory tolerences? Thanks for any =0A> 
>  input.............................=
> MO=0A=0A{Steve =0A> 
> Mick}=0Ahttp://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/mick64.h=
> tml=0A=0A----- =0A> Original Message ----- From: "Jeff" <> 
> href=3D"mailto:c=
> hargr1969@xxxxxxxxx">chargr1969@xxxxxxxxx>=0ATo: <> 
> ymailto=3D"mailto:1962t=
> o1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx" =0A> 
> href=3D"mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx";>19=
> 62to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>=0ASent: =0A> Sunday, June 13, 2010 12:28 
> AM=0ASu=
> bject: Re: external balance=0A=0A=0Athere =0A> was cast and forged 
> cranks m=
> ade.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A--- On Sat, =0A> 6/12/10, doug daniel <> 
> href=
> =3D"mailto:dougdaniel50@xxxxxxxxx";>dougdaniel50@xxxxxxxxx> =0A> 
> wrote:=0A=
> =0A> From: doug daniel <> ymailto=3D"mailto:dougdaniel50@xxxxxxxxx"; =0A> 
> hr=
> ef=3D"mailto:dougdaniel50@xxxxxxxxx";>dougdaniel50@xxxxxxxxx>=0A> =0A> 
> Subje=
> ct: Re: external balance=0A> To: > 
> ymailto=3D"mailto:1962to1965mopars@topic=
> a.com" =0A> 
> href=3D"mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx";>1962to1965mopars@to=
> pica.com=0A> =0A> Date: Saturday, June 12, 2010, 12:35 PM=0A> what else 
> did=
>  they make =0A> cranks=0A> outa in 78 ? or earlier=0A> =0A> --- On Sat, 
>  6/1=
> 2/10, =0A> Imperial <> 
> href=3D"mailto:imperial@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>imperial@io=
> watelecom.net>=0A> =0A> wrote:=0A> =0A> > From: Imperial <> 
> ymailto=3D"mail=
> to:imperial@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" =0A> 
> href=3D"mailto:imperial@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>=
> imperial@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>=0A> =0A> > Subject: Re: external balance=0A> > 
> To=
> : > ymailto=3D"mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx"; =0A> 
> href=3D"mailto:1962=
> to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx">1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx=0A> =0A> > Date: 
> Satur=
> day, June 12, 2010, 10:48 AM=0A> >=0A> >=0A> =0A> > I agree....nothing 
> wron=
> g with the cast crank 440s.=0A> > And there's =0A> a flywheel on Ebay 
> right=
>  now:=0A> > =0A> 
>  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mopar-400-440-143-Tooth-Ext=
> ernally-Balanced-Flywheel-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2307c65fb2QQitemZ1504=
> 
> 54296498QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories=0A> =0A> >=0A> > 
> Mi=
> ke Trettin=0A> > 1962 Chrysler Newport wagon=0A> =0A> >=0A> >=0A> >=0A> 
> > F=
> rom: Doug Jacobsma=0A> > =0A> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:45 PM=0A> > 
> To=
> : > ymailto=3D"mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx"; =0A> 
> href=3D"mailto:1962=
> to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx">1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx=0A> =0A> >=0A> > 
> Subje=
> ct: RE: external balance=0A> >=0A> =0A> >=0A> >=0A> >=0A> >=0A> >=0A> > 
> A 7=
> 8 is =0A> going to have a cast crank most likely.=0A> Don't=0A> > know 
> how =
> hard =0A> it will be to find a flywheel. If a=0A> > pickup one will 
> work, y=
> ou =0A> should be able to find=0A> one.=0A> > A cast crank in anything 
> but =
> an =0A> egad killer engine=0A> wouldn't=0A> > bother me any. Get it =0A> 
> !!=
> !=0A> >=0A> > Jake=0A> > '63 Sport Fury 'vert=0A> =0A> >=0A> >=0A> >=0A> 
> >=
> =0A> >=0A> >=0A> =0A> >=0A> >=0A> > 
> ---------------------------------------=
> -=0A> =0A> > > To: > 
> href=3D"mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx";>1962to1965=
> mopars@xxxxxxxxxx=0A> =0A> > > From: > 
> href=3D"mailto:micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx=
> t">micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=0A> > =0A> > Subject: external balance=0A> > > 
> Da=
> te: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:54:46 =0A> -0500=0A> > >=0A> > >=0A> > > I have 
> a c=
> hance to =0A> buy a running 440 out of a 78=0A> > Chrysler New Yorker. 
> I=0A=
> > > =0A> > haven't looked at it yet. How likely is it that=0A> it is=0A> > =
> =0A> a external balance=0A> > > cast iron crank.? If it is external =0A> 
> ba=
> lance, how=0A> hard=0A> > is it to find an=0A> > > =0A> external balanc 
> 10-=
>  1/2 " flywheel ( used) for=0A> manual=0A> > =0A> tranny? Thanks for=0A> 
>  > =
> > any input.........MO=0A> > =0A> >=0A> > > {Steve Mick}=0A> > > > 
> > href=3D"=
> http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/mick64.html"; target=3D_blank =0A> 
> >h=
> ttp://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/mick64.html=0A> > =0A> >=0A> > 
> >=0A> =
> > > ----=0A> > > Please address =0A> private mail -- mail of interest=0A> t=
> o=0A> > only one person -- =0A> directly to that person. I.e.,=0A> 
> send=0A>=
>  > parts/car transactions =0A> and negotiations as well as=0A> other=0A> > 
>  > =
> personal messages only to =0A> the intended recipient, not=0A> to 
> the=0A> >=
>  Clubhouse public =0A> address. This practice will protect=0A> your=0A> > 
>  p=
> rivacy, reduce =0A> the total volume of mail and fine tune=0A> the=0A> > 
> co=
> ntent signal =0A> to Mopar topic. Thanks!=0A> > >=0A> > > 1962 to 1965 
> Mopa=
> r =0A> Clubhouse Discussion=0A> Guidelines:=0A> > > =0A> 
> http://www.1962to1=
> 965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and=0A> > =0A> 
> http://www.1962to1965mopar.=
> ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html.=0A> > =0A> >=0A> > >=0A> >=0A> 
> >=0A> =
> =0A> 
> _________________________________________________________________=0A> =
> > =0A> The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine=0A> multiple=0A> 
> > >=
>  =0A> calendars with Hotmail.=0A> > =0A> 
>  http://www.windowslive.com/campaig=
> n/thenewbusy?tile=3Dmulticalendar&ocid=3DPID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM=
> 
> _HMP:042010_5=0A> =0A> >=0A> >=0A> > ----=0A> > Please address private 
> mail=
>  -- =0A> mail of interest to=0A> only one=0A> > person -- directly to 
>  that =
> =0A> person. I.e., send=0A> > parts/car transactions and negotiations as 
> we=
> ll =0A> as=0A> other=0A> > personal messages only to the intended 
> recipient=
> , =0A> not=0A> to the=0A> > Clubhouse public address. This practice will 
> =
> =0A> protect=0A> your=0A> > privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and 
> =
> =0A> fine tune=0A> the=0A> > content signal to Mopar topic. =0A> 
> Thanks!=0A=
> > >=0A> > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion =0A> Guidelines:=0A> > > 
> > >=
> href=3D"http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html"; 
> target=3D_blank=
>  =0A> >http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and=0A> > > 
>  href=
> =3D"http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html"; =0A> 
> ta=
> rget=3D_blank =0A> 
> >http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaim=
> er.html.=0A> =0A> >=0A> >=0A> > [Non-text portions of this message have 
> bee=
> n =0A> removed]=0A> >=0A> >=0A> > ----=0A> > Please address =0A> private 
> ma=
> il -- mail of interest to=0A> only one=0A> > person -- =0A> directly to 
> tha=
> t person. I.e., send=0A> > parts/car transactions and =0A> negotiations 
> as =
> well as=0A> other=0A> > personal messages only to the =0A> intended 
> recipie=
> nt, not=0A> to the=0A> > Clubhouse public address. =0A> This practice 
> will =
> protect=0A> your=0A> > privacy, reduce the total =0A> volume of mail and 
> fi=
> ne tune=0A> the=0A> > content signal to Mopar =0A> topic. Thanks!=0A> 
> >=0A>=
>  > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion =0A> Guidelines:=0A> > > 
>  > href=3D=
> "http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html"; target=3D_blank 
> =0A> >=
> http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and=0A> > > 
> href=3D"http=
> ://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html" =0A> 
> target=3D_=
> blank =0A> 
> >http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html.=
> =0A> =0A> >=0A> >=0A> >=0A> >=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> 
> =0A=0A=0A----=0APleas=
> e address private mail -- mail of interest to only one =0A> person -- 
> direc=
> tly to that person.=A0 I.e., send parts/car transactions and =0A> 
> negotiati=
> ons as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, 
> =0A>=
>  not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your 
>  priva=
> cy, =0A> reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content 
> signal t=
> o Mopar =0A> topic.=A0 Thanks!=0A=0A1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse 
> Discussion=
>  =0A> Guidelines:=0A> target=3D_blank 
>  >http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.o=
> rg/mletiq.html and > 
> href=3D"http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general=
> _disclaimer.html" =0A> target=3D_blank =0A> 
> >http://www.1962to1965mopar.orn=



Jeff Adams
64 Polara


----
Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person.  I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic.  Thanks!

1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html.