RE: Trans pushbutton units

[Paul Lennemann <pjlenn@xxxxxxxxx>]

Robert, After reading your post I think I remember mine being the same 
way.  One cable removeable with a hairpin, the other with the end 
permanently fixed in the lever arm.  However, isn't the easily 
removeable one the one that controls the shifting and the other the 
parking pawl?  Anyway it's always a bit dicey trying to pry open the 
crimped connection.  You always run the risk of one side of the crimp 
breaking off.  Then you have an interesting fix staring you in the face. 
 I have an extra pushbutton shift unit outside in the garage.  When it 
warms up a bit later in the day (currently -16 degrees C. after a low 
last nite of -22 degrees C.) and I get around a little more I'll go 
check it.
One other thing I have an article in the March '05 issue of Muscle Car 
Enthusiast about a guy who races a '63 Sport Fury Max Wedge which talks 
about the pushbutton being a slick setup for drag racing.  Which is true 
because you wouldn't necessarily need a reverse pattern shift kit for 
the transmission as there is no danger of moving the lever too far and 
going into the wrong gear or going to neutral.  I checked their website 
for archives but didn't find any.  If you like I could scan the article 
and send it to you off list.  My first two cars back in the 60's were 
both push button shift, a '59 & a '61 Plym. But I remember them shifting 
more easily.

Paul L.
63 Sport Fury
440/727

Robert Lane wrote:
> 
> Thanks Rich, that's a great help. I'll give the adjustment a lot more 
> attention and see if that improves matters.
> When you say you still have a way to go, do you have anything in mind to 
> 
> make more improvements?
> 
> It must be possible to make these units work well, or the 60's racers 
> wouldn't have been able to use them effectively. Unless they all got 
> swapped 
> over for floor mounted shifters?
> 
> Robert
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richard Kinsley" <r.kinsley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 5:43 AM
> Subject: RE: Trans pushbutton units
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > Robert Lane wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Paul, thanks for the reply.
> >>
> >> Our unit has also needed more pressure to depress the buttons than I
> >> thought
> >> it should. I've always dreaded the thought of using 1st, 2nd, & drive on
> >> the
> >> 1/4 - wondering how well it would cope when it's really needed!
> >> Apart from the pressure required to change gear, it didn't really play
> >> up
> >> until we got the engine & box back in the car, after the rebuild (last
> >> Sept). That's why I thought it might be more to do with adjustment down
> >> at
> >> the trans end.
> >> We haven't managed/attempted to remove the cables yet. When we saw the
> >> brackets had been bent over to retain the cables, we thought it was a
> >> previous-owner-bodge. One cable has the 'P' clip (like a hood pin, or
> >> hairpin) but the other has no clip. The spindle that it sits on has had
> >> its
> >> end flattened to stop the cable coming off. I'm sure it could be filed
> >> tho
> >> to remove the cable end. Any idea what should be holding the cable on?
> >> Another P clip?
> >> We should be able to do something with the brackets too, so will attend
> >> to
> >> that next time.
> >> These are a couple of pics taken when the unit was hanging from the
> >> dash.
> >> You can just about see the cable ends & the brackets bent over.
> >> http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rob426uk/album?.dir=/b785scd&.src=ph&.tok=phx4.OGBSPWSf43B
> >> 
> >>
> >> Paul, when you had your unit removed, can you remember if, when you
> >> pressed
> >> the pushbutton levers, did they stay latched in when pressed? I don't
> >> remember any of our levers staying in; they all just sprang back. Just
> >> trying to get an idea what to look for to identify whether there is
> >> anything
> >> wrong with our unit, or whether it's more cable/trans.
> >>
> >> Best Regards
> >>
> >> Robert
> >> 63 Polara 500
> >> England
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > I had similar problems with mine. More than one button at a time would
> > stick in and the trans did not respond to anything other than D, N and
> > R. As I mentioned I did the clean-up thing, partially helpful but the
> > real deal was after the trans rebuild I got it adjusted much better. I
> > still have a ways to go though.
> >
> > The pictures look pretty much like mine as I recall. There was no one
> > around here that had a clue about the adjustment. The trans shop told me
> > the cable was stretched but the list helped me figure out that was
> > wrong. I think the adjustment is the biggest factor. Good Luck.
> >
> > Rich Kinsley  '64 Polara 4 dr 318poly w/goodies
> >
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