Re: {Chrysler 300} Auction left overs, 1958 392 Hemi engine parts.

Certainly wouldn't want to give the idea that carb heat is not important. My two Ram cars start in a garage no colder than 65 degrees. Without carb heat and at below freezing temperatures initial run after start would be traumatic, and a lot of liquid fuel would be condensing on those cold runners where they wash down cylinder walls of oil and contaminate the crankcase. Over time its not good for the engine. The starter doesn't love it either.

Better to have your carb heat working if the car is routinely started at below freezing temperatures.

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Subject: Re: {Chrysler 300} Auction left overs, 1958 392 Hemi engine parts.

agree totally . What goes wrong when heat riser sticking is really bad, cooked carb hard starting when hot after shutoff and melted ram floor ( latter happened to me) . The 1/4 “ hole in a washer and no butterfly plate keeps stock look .Kind of in between answer. Same goes on with non ram , you see paint burned off under carb .

Having been around these since new ( and back when hearing worked) there was a very characteristic ram rattle at idle — you can hear them . Once stuck you don’t , stuff is cooking poor running etc . Often think abut that at, meets , but don’t want to intrude or be debbie downer but a lot are driven around stuck . .

Given all this is very real , the trade vs “feathering “ it for a minute and dialing back choke a bit so it comes fully off is a no brainer . Unless you drive a few times a week it rusts . The right lube has to help if you insist on keeping it . ( not me) maybe silicone based hi temp ?

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On 9 Nov 2021, at 8:16 am, dplotkin <dplotkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I've been cold starting a Ram Inducted 413 in my Savoy since 2007, has headers, no carb heat. 30 seconds of feathering until stable and off she goes. Many of my friends with all kinds of old cars purposely disable the crossover heat.

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Subject: Re: {Chrysler 300} Auction left overs, 1958 392 Hemi engine parts.

At this point, with our ancient vehicles being relegated to 'fair weather' use, is it just better to make sure the manifold valves are in the 'open' position? On a nice day with ambient temps above 50 degrees, it doesn't take long for carbs to be heated up sufficiently to operate satisfactorily.

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 7:47 AM John Grady <jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

i don’t think those are right . The right stuff says heat manifold valve lubricants .
regular rust penetrant is gone in 5 seconds at manifold temp so is oil

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On 9 Nov 2021, at 5:09 am, Charlie V <cv300g@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Looking on Amazon I see two choices . They both claim to be good for " Heat Valve Solvent ". I have a can of the AC Delco that I use on mine.

Genuine Chrysler Accessories 4318039AC Rust Penetrant - 10.8 oz. Aerosol Can - 4318039AD. Cost 15.02 so there you go Rick 10 times the cost and its probably a much bigger can.

ACDelco GM Original Equipment 10-4020 Rust Penetrating Lubricant - VOC Compliant - 12 oz Aerosol. Cost 13.28

On Sunday, November 7, 2021, 08:56:16 PM EST, RICK AND DEBBIE CLAPHAM <rixpac@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Says, $1.50 on the can, the old arisol still works great. I'd happily pay ten times that today, if I found any.

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Subject: Re: {Chrysler 300} Auction left overs, 1958 392 Hemi engine parts.

Look at the pictures, solvent shown.

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Subject: RE: {Chrysler 300} Auction left overs, 1958 392 Hemi engine parts.

Hi John Grady,

You mentioned the special manifold lube, it is: Mopar – Heat Control Solvent Penetrating Fluid, 8 Oz can – Benefits: “Better Performance, Faster Warm Up, Smoother Idle.”Part No. 4-187 & Part No. 3419 128

I still have two cans of it left.

Thanks for all your good articles and comments.

John C.

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Subject: Re: {Chrysler 300} Auction left overs, 1958 392 Hemi engine parts.

You got that right , more common then you think on all

our cars . rusts in the closed position after sitting a few years . there was a special lube for it every few thousand miles back then at oil change .

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On 7 Nov 2021, at 5:12 pm, RICK AND DEBBIE CLAPHAM <rixpac@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Was taken to an estate auction that happened the day before. Lots of junk but some interesting things. Asking about a pallet containing Chrysler parts. No pan, valve covers or con rods. Very dirty but not rusted. Found cause od bad running complaint as explaned to me, remedy finished. Locked closed heat-riser

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