RE: [Chrysler300] Fw: Bud Faubel's 300G Daytona car

["Carl cbilter@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks for posting this John Spiers, they are indeed different than J/ramK.  The left side collector tubes are very similar but the main tube is notably wider diameter and a little shorter so that it doesn’t appear that it would snake down past the torsion bar (F/G also longer wheel base than J/ram K of course).  The right side has more apparent differences in the casting from J/ram K with the combined tubes for #2,#4,#6 exhaust ports. 

Bob Merritt these would be great photos to add to the page about the headers.  I don’t think I’ve even seen photos of G headers (or F Special) off the car before. 

C 

From: John spiers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 4:43 PM
To: Chrysler 300 List
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Fw: Bud Faubel's 300G Daytona car

  

For as long as it's still posted, here are the pics sent to me by the seller.

https://share.icloud.com/photos/0NOs3QjFXpweQFc7ym37HxVyw#Lake_City,_FL ;

The pictured manifolds are loose and you can see that they are somewhat similar, but certainly not the same castings as the J and K ram exhaust manifolds. These are definitely not like the Max Wedge units.

I would be reasonably certain they are the same as the 300F GT units.  

John Spiers 



On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 5:39 PM, Carl cbilter@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
<Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  
Hi John, yes I think they are same headers as J/ramK except no heat pipes, rams were water heated. Also used in ’62 as a dealer order only short ram/header option (405 horse). This was on the Bud Faubel ’62 race 300 Sport we saw at Macungie if you recall. Max wedge headers totally different, as you described, never used on Chrysler. So this would be a 400hp 3 speed stick G, probably not as fast as ’62 given more weight or as fast as a ’60 F GT Special 4 speed, 3 speed stick might have been a little clunky, but still very fast and very rare.

Carl Bilter
300J

From: 'John Grady' jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 4:23 PM
To: spiers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Jean-Yves Chouinard; 'Bob Merritt'; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Fw: Bud Faubel's 300G Daytona car

  
Hi, I wonder if same exhaust as 400HP  F? are those F exhausts the same as J , heat provision aside? Thank you for this, follow up encouraged!  I vaguely remember seeing 400 HP F somewhere, noting manifolds, and also a friend had a 62 max wedge Plymouth (we rode around nights in 62 or 63 looking for 409 chevs) ; that max wedge had unbelievable manifolds that rose way up as high as valve covers, big arc and then down at a back ; time has blurred all that into a composite or melting,---- not sure they ever put the max wedge manifold in a Chrysler but might have in 61/ 62…
 
As I remember J I had, it has squared off pipes on manifold , max was rounded, up higher , up direction out of heads, and of course wild heads and ports.
 
I Remember Hot Rod magazine Spl 300 at 62 nationals got into 12’s. Ray Brock. Torqueflight, first 727 . That was the fastest 300 in my book,--would have won the whole thing, but he was asleep at light at final race against a big Pontiac..which turned a slower time. Getting a 15 or 16 second brutally heavy 300 into the 12’s in 62 staggers me .  ------but high end speed like Bud was set up for in 61 is unreal too.
 
Purely conjecture, on manifolds,  long ago… 
 
This is one special G …..
 
BTW, max wedge blew up twice, the oil pump driveshaft end used to twist off at 6 grand, so much for using a “big oil pump” , no warrantee on max wedge. Gets expensive fast. Later ,----longer,  hardened ends fixed that. Probably standard pump later too. Big pumps take more twist to drive, maybe not so smart. 
 
From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John spiers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 3:25 PM
To: Chrysler 300 List
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Fw: Bud Faubel's 300G Daytona car
 

I just heard this special 3-speed 300G has been sold.  I was hoping to look at it tomorrow, and Randy Huntzberry messaged me that it has a new home.
The original cast iron exhaust manifolds are still with the car, similar to the 1963/1964 ram manifolds, except that there are no heat risers, as the ram intake manifolds are water-heated. That would lead me to believe this might be a 400HP 413, like the 300F GT 4 speed Daytona cars.
 
John Spiers 
 
On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 6:15 AM, 'Bob Merritt' bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
<Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  
I am forwarding the message below.
If you have 
any interest, contact Randy at mdboy1945@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 
 
 
 
 
------ Forwarded Message ------
From: "Randall Huntzberry" <mdboy1945@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 10/5/2019 11:43:14 AM
Subject: Bud Faubel's 300G Daytona car
 
Hi, my name is Randy Huntzberry and my father, John Huntzberry, was a member of your club for many years. He passed away in 2008 and I inherited his “G”. He bought the car in 1962 and kept it the rest of his life. Unfortunately, he let the car deteriorate badly. I had hoped to restore the car and make it street worthy again, however, for a number of reasons, I no longer feel that I can do it. So, sadly, I am offering the car to someone in the hope that they could restore. Make no mistake, it will be a full restoration, but I believe it can be done. I have a number of spare parts, service manuals, etc. that will go with it. If you could pass the word around that the car is available, I would appreciate it. I may be contacted by email at mdboy1945@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx. Thank you very much, Randy Huntzberry..
 
PS: We knew Bud as he used to drag race at the track in Hagerstown, Md and he told us about the “G”. It is a 3 speed manual transmission, mechanical lifter engine. Long rams, not the beach intake, but do have the cast iron exhaust headers that were on the car originally. 

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