Re: [Chrysler300] Group 27 Batteries

["'Don Verity' d.verity@xxxxxxx [Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Seems I’ve mentioned this before, but it seems relevant again. I have never used any kind of battery tender on my cars. My 66 Imperial with 440 is parked in the Fall, and Started in the Spring. I don’t even disconnect the battery. It cranks just fine every year. It also sits outside all year, and it got pretty cold around here last Winter. My 61 G also was good with batteries. It still has the same battery after over 10 years. I have used Die Hards in the past and got almost 10 years out of them. I’m using NAPA group 27 batteries now and don’t have more than 5 years experience with them, but they seem to do well. 
I also still use points and drum brakes, so I guess I’m just not up on new tech
Don

From: mailto:Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 8:34 AM
To: 'John Grady' ; 'Mike Zagata' 
Cc: 'Rich Barber' ; 'Dave Geise' ; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Group 27 Batteries

  
Oh Boy!!!

Here we go again!

Think I’ll just sit back, pop a top and enjoy!!

There’s probably an emotion-a-con for that some where!

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Grady jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 7:30 AM
To: Mike Zagata
Cc: Rich Barber; Dave Geise; <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Group 27 Batteries

I have found battery tenders wreck batteries . Ever notice how a 7 year old toyota (or dart) starts fine after left all winter , ? Sometimes the best thing you can do for batteries is leave them alone , dudconnect one post till spring. The battery tender etc tries to charge a battery already full , that causes electrolysis of water into hydrogen and oxygen = dry upper plates in battery , ruined . Automatic chargers are all BS , you simply cannot tell state of charge of a resting battery from the volts ; it is 12.6 whether half full or full . ( you might have noticed bad batteries ( with no dead cell) still read 12.6 but go dead in seconds on starting . 

All this with EE hat on . I have been working on this for years , have an idea . But most of what I read ( series on this in auto restorer ) are 100% wrong , written empirically . The real info is in a book (SAE) written by chief engineer of Lucas batteries. 

One truth is never put a battery on concrete floor ; anyone know why ? Answer later !

On May 27, 2015, at 6:23 AM, "'Mike Zagata' mzagata@xxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]"<Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Try using a “Battery Minder” as it allows you to select among the various types of battery and thus avoid damaging them. You can also set the amperage. Mike

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 'Rich Barber' c300@xxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 2:53 AM
To: 'Dave Geise'; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Group 27 Batteries

I suggest Googling “charging voltage gel batteries” to get up to speed on the care and feeding of gel batteries. It’s not just business as usual under the hood or on the end of a battery charger.

300K’ly,

Rich Barber

Brentwood, CA

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 'Dave Geise' daverg1@xxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 6:31 PM
To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Chrysler300] Group 27 Batteries

Hi to all,

Just replaced the battery in my 57C with one from Antique Auto Battery 

in Ohio. Original appearance Willard case and maintenance free. $280 and worth every $ to finally be out of the lead/acid business.

Best Regards

Dave Geise NJ

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