Re: [Chrysler300] Question about 64 K vs '67 GTO

Thank you all for the info on the 64 K. I’ve forwarded all the emails to the GTO owner and he will decide. I’ll pass on his decision if/when he ever makes one.

thanks again

Jim Maiani

Houghton Lake, MI

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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 10:08 AM

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Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Question about 64 K vs '67 GTO

When I lived in Illinois near the Mississippi River, I used to drive by a house in which a young man who was going to dental college lived. His father owned a huge salvage yard across the street .

We all lived in a very rural area. I would frequently see a used small Pontiac (Sprint?) parked in front, and then sometimes a large wrecked Pontiac sedan. They would both disappear into a barn-like garage on the property. Then I would see a GTO parked out on his yard. Sometimes, on a nice day, I'd see him working on a newly painted GTO. I was incredibly ignorant and thought he was perhaps restoring GTOs as a hobby. I stopped one time and he told me he was "creating" GTOs. He said he could make $10,000 on each one and that was how he was putting himself through college. I asked about the vin plate and he said that was a tough job because he had to have special dies to upset the rivets on the new rivets in the new vin plates he installed.

This began when he was in High School and continued up until the state of Missouri got tied into a national data base and it was discovered that the lad's father was building cars from wrecks, selling them to a friend in Missouri who titled them in his name, then sold them back into Illinois, shedding the "salvage" line on the title. Our Credit Union (I was a Board Member) held title to a lot of these bargain cars as we had financed them. A lot of people went to jail. I always wondered how many of his faux GTOs are still out there.

Mike Moore

300H

On Sep 18, 2014, at 6:03 AM, christopher thelastbestgenius@xxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I do not know anything much re what a '64 300K is worth, but I have a '67 Pontiac/GTO convert. In '67 GTOs there are still I think 3 different bodies, and if the 2 door post/pillared model was still offered in '67 like I think it was, that '67 GTO is worth a fair bit less than the 2 door (non pillar), or the convert. Then there are engine and trans options, bench seat even I think. So if this GTO is a lowest hp, bench seat pillared GTO, and it has rust in usual GTO places like trunk floor outers where body bracs are, plus if it not a convert they often rust bad round rear window, etc - then that GTO is not worth a lot, even less if it a non runner and an auto, basic 10 bolt diff/axle, and has wrong rims/wheels - correct date coded genuine issue stuff like rims etc for GTOs is/are often silly prices.

It is the old story - it is not just what you pay for a car to restore, it is what it owes you at the end - versus what it then worth !!
But near any '67 GTO even in most basic least sought variety, would still be a good car to drive versus many other old cars,

Christopher in Australia

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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 12:17:30 -0400
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Question about 64 K

Hi Jim,

Not knowing specifics on either car, it looks like you'd be ahead by a bit on the K. Hagerty Price Guide shows the GTO in #4 condition (running, which this one isn't) and a K (running, which this one is) at $11,900.

David Morrison

Philly

On Sep 17, 2014, at 12:05 PM, "'Jim Maiani' jmaiani@xxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello folks in 300 land. I was at a show this weekend and ran into a guy who told me he has a 67 GTO that doesn’t run and needs a restoration. He told me he knows somebody that wants to trade even-up his 64 300 K ‘silver edition’ for his 67 GTO. He told me he drove the 300, so it does run. But he said somebody repainted it white. I told him right away that I didn’t know much of the 64 K, (except that it was a letter car which defines cool right away) and never heard of a ‘silver edition’. I checked a 300 book I have and it mentioned a ‘silver series’. Are these the same?

What do you guys think? Would he be better off trading his GTO for the K? I guessed he would be, but then I would probably trade a GTO for a simple K car, but that’s just me.

MOPAR or no car

thanks

Jim Maiani

Houghton Lake, MI

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Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:23 AM

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Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Cruising west to White Sands

Really enjoy reading stories from the Road Warriors heading to White Sands. Keep 'em coming !

Ron

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Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:37 AM

Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Cruising west to White Sands

Day 2 - great cruising - cool, foggy, drizzly morning in OK. Sun finally appeared this afternoon; warmed up to 90; John's top came down. Amarillo to Alamagordo in the morning.

Noel Hastalis

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On Sep 15, 2014, at 11:26 PM, cpaviper@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Had an eventful day today. Made it to Effingham as my generator died. Stopped by Spanky's, pulled it and took it his local rebuilder, reinstalled it and back on the road. While waiting for the rebuild, Spanky took us to a local Mopar muscle restorer buddy of his - great cache of mid- to late-60s iron. In mid-Missouri tonight with John Begian. Also met up with Michael and Linda Burke this morning. Targeting Amarillo tomorrow.

Noel Hastalis

F Coupe

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Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 8:37:46 AM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Cruising west to White Sands

Hello group,

On Monday morning, John Begian, in his G, and I will be meeting in Effingham, IL, and heading west in our 300s toward White Sands. Anyone else cruising westbound in their 300s to the Meet?

Noel Hastalis

Cool and drizzly Chicago

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