Not sure I understand the benefit of
Hubcentric - in reality, most wheels
center on lugs which are further from
center and hence better able to resist
any movement as long as they are
concentric.
To be Hubcentric, you must have 2
things - first hub must have a raised
surface to register rim and second,
rim ID must be precisely correct
diameter for that specific hub. Many
drum brake applications do not have a
surface raised to register on.
Further, many wheels have slightly
oversized and/or loose tolerance to
accommodate multiple applications -
i.e. the ability to swap aftermarket
wheels for both Ford & Chrysler
application.
We had option to use Hubcentric Momo
wheels years back while racing - you
had an oversized center on wheel and
used a set of application specific
adapters which precisely matched ID of
wheel and OD of the specific car.
Never found any real benefit so we did
not use after first few uses.
Principal benefit seemed to be
precision in centering with respect to
any potential out-of-round of the
mounted assembly. No real benefit as
to side loads which were the
predominant issue on race car as we
never had any concentricity issue with
Momo or BBS wheels with race tires.
I would suspect this recommendation is
due to some of the balance issues
which have been reported with some
replica sizes and low production
specialty tires.
I would further note that belted tires
(both radial and bias-belted) are
particularly sensitive to belt
alignment and manufacturing
tolerances. In 1968/69 when bias
belted tires became popular, only
Goodyear had them and in their haste
to catch up, several of the other big5
(Goodyear, Firestone, Goodrich,
General, and Uniroyal) had issues with
their first generation tires. When
customers complained about balance, we
were instructed to check with a radial
runout gage and if more than a number
which I now forget, they were replaced
no charge. By about 1970, the
production tolerance issues were
sorted out.
On 1/4/2014
8:07 PM, Ryan Hill wrote:
Hub centric uses the actual
hub to center the wheel; the
hole in the center of the wheel
fits snugly over the hub. Lug
centric wheels rely on the lugs
only.
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>American
Classic Tires
recommends "lug
centric" wheels rather
than the original "hub
centric" wheels that
may flex with radials.
Can you explain the
difference ?
Ron
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2014 4:02 PM
Subject:
[Chrysler300] New
American Classic Tires
Hi
To All & Happy
New Year,
Just opened the
latest Hemmings MN
& Coker is
advertising a new
series of American
Classic radial WWW
tires that have
bias ply look
profiles. The
American Classic
Tire website does
not show them as
of yet.
They seem to be
geared for
Cadillacs,
thunderbirds &
Corvettes.
Based on carnut.com
"as built" specs
for '55-'65 300s,
C-300, 300-B &
300-G owners may
benefit from the
800:R15 tires if a
3 1/4" WWW works
for you.
As with American
Classic 235/75R14
& 235/75R15
radial tires, the
white wall is an
integral part of
the tire. The 14"
75 series tires
are for 1955-1960
unless owners opt
for 15" wheels and
tires.
Diamond Classic
has S rated new
Michelin 235/75R15
tires that they
will put what ever
size WW you want.
They also promise
the 235/75R14"
tires soon by
their own
production.
BTW, I have the
15" Michelin tires
from Diamond Back
mounted on
Stockton 15"
wheels with the
original 300-F
hubcaps. They are
great and exceed
all expectations.
One tire did
develop "bead
bubbling" of the
white wall where
it sealed to the
rim. I had to pay
shipping one way
for a replacement
WW. They did give
me some grief
since it they were
over 1 year old.
American Classic
Tires recommends
"lug centric"
wheels rather than
the original "hub
centric" wheels
that may flex with
radials.
Stockton Wheel
will make up 14"
modern "lug
centric"
replacement wheels
or 15" that will
accept 14" hub
caps for radial
tires. They are
for 1957-60 and
1962-65. Their 15"
wheels do not
match 1961 300-G
perforated wheels.
They will not fit
1955-56.
Some narrow white
walls are
currently still
available for
300-H and up.
All of this comes
at a price! Hope
Santa was good to
you.
300,ly,
Tony Rinaldi
300-F Conv't
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