Re: [Chrysler300] I don't need alcohol to be happy
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Re: [Chrysler300] I don't need alcohol to be happy


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On 2013-09-03, at 1:10 PM, "MARK HOPKINS" <m.hopkins@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> To clarify or confuse the issue as it relates to Canada - As of Sept 1, 2010, the feds mandated an "annual pool average" 5% ethanol content by each gasoline producer. This means that one gasoline grade can be 0% and another grade 10%, as long as the corporate average over the course of the year is 5%. Ethanol content can vary by season as well (more in winter as gas line antifreeze).
> 
> Shell's V Power 91 octane contains no ethanol anywhere in Canada, per their website: 
> http://www.shell.ca/en/products-services/on-the-road/fuels/shell-vpower.html . That means Shell's other grades have more than 5% to comply with the federal requirement. 
> 
> Methanol levels are supposed to be posted on the pumps (I haven't gone station to station to check that.) 
> 
> In BC, Chevron 94 octane is supposed to have no ethanol. In Alberta and the Atlantic provinces, most companies except Petro-Canada / Sunoco (Suncor owned companies in Canada), don't add ethanol to their 91 octane grade. Same in Ontario, except Esso has ethanol in their 91. Esso adds ethanol to all grades in BC, Saskatchewan and Manitoba as well. Manitoba and Saskatchewan have their own regulations requiring higher ethanol levels than the feds in all grades (8.5% and 7.5%). 
> 
> In Alberta, Co-op claims to have no ethanol in any of their grades. That's questionable, given Co-op gas in refined in their own refinery in Regina, Saskatchewan, a province that requires ethanol in every grade. My big block cars ping on Co-op premium 91, so I don't use it. 
> 
> So depending on where you live, it's possible to purchase 91 octane ethanol free gas. 
> 
> (Here's one catch however - given the propensity for gasoline retailers to exchange each other's product depending on supply, refinery maintenance shutdowns etc., there's still a possibility of getting ethanol laced fuel - for example if a group of Shell stations temporarily buy fuels from a Suncor/Petro-Canada refinery???............)
> 
> Two cents on a beautiful Tuesday afternoon............
> 
> Mark in Calgary
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ryan Hill" <ryan_hillc300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "John Skeggs" <johnskeggs@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "Jack Boyle" <jackcboyle@xxxxxxxxx>, Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, ripinator@xxxxxxxxxxx, kboonstra@xxxxxxxxxxxx, mobydoug@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, mgoodknight@xxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 1:48:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] I don't need alcohol to be happy
> 
> John, I'm not sure where you're getting your information from? Since 2010 all automotive gasoline in Canada is required to have a minimum of 5% ethanol. Most stations across the country are closer to 10% on average from what I've read. 
> 
> Ryan in Vancouver 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
> On 2013-09-01, at 11:01 AM, "John Skeggs" < johnskeggs@xxxxxxxxxxxx > wrote: 
> 
> > In Canada the high-test Shell is completely free of that ethanol poison. 
> > It's only 91 octane , but my toys are very happy with it. Might be a 
> > consideration for those who live close to the border. 
> > 
> > Of course, you have to have a passport. Not to get into Canada but to 
> > get back into your country 
> > 
> > From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ] On 
> > Behalf Of Jack Boyle 
> > Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 6:57 PM 
> > To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > Cc: ripinator@xxxxxxxxxxx ; kboonstra@xxxxxxxxxxxx ; mobydoug@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; 
> > mgoodknight@xxxxxxxx 
> > Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] I don't need alcohol to be happy 
> > 
> > ...continuing my 2 cents worth 
> > 
> > I went to a garage tour at a fellow's home and dream garage years ago. He 
> > had 20 or so fabulous cars in show condition from the 20's to the 50's. 
> > Somebody at the get together asked him how do you keep them running so well? 
> > 
> > His answer was "three things: Optima batteries, av-gas and driving them 
> > regularly" 
> > 
> > He lives a few miles from a small private airport and is able to fill up a 
> > 55 gallon barrel in his pick-up and then hand pumps it into the cars. 
> > 
> > His advice (not mine) 
> > 
> > ...Jack 
> > 
> > Enjoying the same C-300 since 1967 
> > 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: mgoodknight@xxxxxxxx <mailto:mgoodknight%40juno.com> 
> > [mailto: mgoodknight@xxxxxxxx <mailto:mgoodknight%40juno.com> ] 
> > Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 2:03 PM 
> > To: mobydoug@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:mobydoug%40myfairpoint.net> 
> > Cc: ripinator@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ripinator%40verizon.net> ; 
> > jackcboyle@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jackcboyle%40gmail.com> ; 
> > kboonstra@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:kboonstra%40zeegroup.com> ; 
> > Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] I don't need alcohol to be happy 
> > 
> > Avgas DID NOT CAUSE your exhaust manifold gasket failure. Of course, if you 
> > don't want to use avgas that's your choice. It's expensive. 
> > 
> > Marshall Goodknight, engine failure analyst 
> > 
> > ---------- Original Message ---------- 
> > From: Doug Mayer < mobydoug@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > <mailto:mobydoug%40myfairpoint.net> > 
> > To: CAROLL RIPLEY < ripinator@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ripinator%40verizon.net> > 
> > Cc: Jack Boyle < jackcboyle@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jackcboyle%40gmail.com> >, 
> > "'keboonstra'" 
> > < kboonstra@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:kboonstra%40zeegroup.com> >, 
> > " Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> " 
> > < Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> > 
> > Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] I don't need alcohol to be happy 
> > Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 09:55:20 -0400 
> > 
> > I used av gas once. 
> > Had to replace exhaust manifold gaskets the next week. 
> > Didn't buy avgas a second time. 
> > Best I can do is drive 35 miles to get 93 octane corn gas--which is better 
> > than 91 corn gas. 
> > Doug 
> > Doug Mayer 
> > Northport, Maine 
> > sent from my older iMac 
> > 
> > On Aug 31, 2013, at 9:23 AM, CAROLL RIPLEY wrote: 
> > 
> > > Here in the People's Republic of Maryland, there are no alcohol-free 
> > stations except on the eastern shore. That is a 200-mile round trip for me. 
> > > 
> > > That leaves us with only aviation gas. . . IF you know someone at the 
> > airport. 
> > > 
> > > Rip 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ________________________________ 
> > > From: Jack Boyle < jackcboyle@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jackcboyle%40gmail.com> > 
> > > To: 'keboonstra' < kboonstra@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:kboonstra%40zeegroup.com>
> > >; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 9:10 PM 
> > > Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] I don't need alcohol to be happy 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I am fairly new to the group so this may have been said before. 
> > > 
> > > I am one of those that will not burn gas with alcohol in any of my old 
> > > Mopars. I rely on web sites like buyrealgas.com 
> > > 
> > > They list stations in all states on their site. I seldom have to go 
> > > more than 5 or 6 miles out of my way. It seems to be premium most of 
> > > the time but my C300 loves it. 
> > > 
> > > .Jack 
> > > 
> > > Jack Boyle 
> > > 
> > > Enjoying the same C-300 since 1967 
> > > 
> > > From: mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com 
> > > [mailto:mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of keboonstra 
> > > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 4:42 PM 
> > > To: mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com 
> > > Subject: [Chrysler300] I don't need alcohol to be happy 
> > > 
> > > Can't believe it. A large fueling station just 3 miles down the main 
> > > drag from me has just install a separate tank and pump, and they are 
> > > offering 90 octane ETHANOL-FREE gasoline. And it's priced at a very 
> > > reasonable $4.39 a gallon. 
> > > 
> > > This afternoon I pumped out every drop of ethanol laden gas from my 
> > > three collector cars and reloaded them with this new ethanol-free 
> > > stuff. I used to have to go to a special station that handled racing 
> > > fuel, or drop in at the little one-horse airport nearby and get the 
> > > LL100 avgas. And, of course, you have to dispense it into 5-gallon 
> > > jerry cans first and then transfer to your car. 
> > > 
> > > This is WAY better. So Cool. 
> > > 
> > > Keith Boonstra 
> > > Holland, Michigan 
> > > 
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