Re: [Chrysler300] It's getting embarrasing.

[Ray Jones <1970hurst@xxxxxxxxx>]

Let me add this from back in the day.
Way too many years ago, while working in a Dealership which had American
Motors, we had a transmission problem with some of them.
Don't remember what it was, but we had to rebuild quite a few. They were
Mopar 727's, somewhat changed to their spec's.
My buddy on the next lift called me over when I got back from road-testing
the one I just finished and told me he was stuck.
He had a shift problem and had just pulled the valve body out again after
the 4th road-test, having the same problem with each test.
having just finished my O/H, I looked at the Valve body and pointed out to
him that one check ball was in the wrong place.
He had not realized it and each time it went back together the same way
with the same results.
Moved the ball over to the correct passage and it was perfect on the final
test.

Point being that there may be something very simple wrong, and unnoticed.
Don will get it right, I'm sure.
Ray



On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 12:30 PM, <kmaniak@xxxxxxx> wrote:

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>
>
>
> Thomas:
>
> Well said and I couldn't agree more.
>
>
> Chris, the K MANIAC
> Concord, California
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DeBusk Thomas L. <tleed@xxxxxxxx>
> To: Ron Waters <ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: Chrysler300 <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sun, Aug 18, 2013 6:30 am
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] It's getting embarrasing.
>
> Brandt,
> Add my voice to those who say it's time to move on. I'm an attorney and
> enough
> f a shade-tree mechanic to say you probably don't have or need to initiate
> a
> egal problem and you don't have a mechanical problem. You have a personal
> roblem, and perhaps a financial problem. Apparently you have a sufficient
> ersonal connection to this transmission rebuilder to think you need to
> stick
> ith him. Maybe it's just as simple as the fact that you think he's
> invested
> nough time on the task and he's done enough of it with sufficient
> attention to
> etail to warrant your continued trust and patronage. Or maybe he's a
> personal
> riend you don't want to insult him by packing up and leaving. And perhaps
> ou're too personally involved with him to consider "demanding" your money
> back.
> ell, consider this:
> A while back I had problems with the Velvet Drive transmission in my boat.
> It
> verheated and broke down. It's a very common transmission in inboard boats
> and
> ebuild kits are relatively cheap. With the expert assistance of an
> extremely
> opar-savvy professional mechanic and personal friend, I rebuilt it. Twice.
> One
> ime I did most of the work, and one time my friend did most of it. It
> didn't
> ast long either time. In the course of the work, my friend told me the
> ransmission looked very similar to a typical small Chrysler automatic of
> the
> ame era, so I had a lot of confidence in his work.
> But when it failed the second time, I decided I needed something more
> reliable
> nd I shipped it to Florida (I'm in Virginia) to be rebuilt by a boat
> ransmission specialist. It just so happened that the Florida guy was a
> brother
> o someone I know here in VA, so I had a lot of confidence in him as well.
> Once
> e took my transmission apart, he told me it had been subjected to so much
> heat,
> he internal tolerances to too many parts were beyond acceptable limits and
> it
> asn't worth rebuilding. He said it wouldn't last, no matter how well it
> was
> rebuilt" because the typical rebuild kits didn't contain all the parts
> that
> ere defective in my transmission. He offered instead to sell me a new,
> eavier-duty version of my transmission. As I recall, I think that was
> about
> 1800. Ouch! My rebuild kits were about $100. But that transmission is
> still
> orking just fine. I don't think my local Mopar-mechanic was insincere or
> specially incompetent. He did very careful work. But the truth is
> he wasn't knowledgeable enough about THIS PARTICULAR TRANSMISSION to
> recognize
> he out-of-tolerance parts and realize it wasn't salvageable.
> Your situation sounds similar. Apparently your transmission rebuilder is
> missing
> omething important. You are now contemplating an advanced educational
> training
> ffort where the textbook is the correct original manual, and the class
> xperiment is your transmission. But the sad truth is that the tuition YOU
> HAVE
> LREADY PAID to educate this rebuilder isn't enough to guarantee him a
> ufficient profit to make the exercise financially successful, either from
> your
> oint of view or his. He's already spent more time than it's worth on this
> one
> ransmission, and you still have a mostly dead patient. And it's entirely
> ossible that the problem he's missing in your transmission might not be
> found
> n that particular manual. If so, you're still on a track that's very
> likely to
> esult in continued failure. That doesn't necessarily make him a bad guy.
> But I
> on't think continuing to work with him is a sound choice.
> From what you've written, it's probably not helpful to doubt his sincerity
> or
> uestion his intentions either. But that's not the same as admitting that
> he
> ust doesn't know enough right now to identify what's going wrong with your
> ransmission and correct it. He's just human, and right now that means this
> one
> s beyond him. Time to get a second opinion. Pack it up and send it away.
> Don
> erity could be a good choice...
> Thomas DeBusk
> n Aug 17, 2013, at 11:27 PM, Ron Waters <ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Brandt -
>
> You hired this guy to fix/rebuild your transmission. He failed to
> adequately
> do the job. You've brought it back to him three or more times already and
> it's still not right. Time to get a refund and send it off to someone that
> can do the job.
>
> Ron
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brandt Jimerson" <brandt300g@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 6:49 PM
> Subject: [Chrysler300] It's getting embarrasing.
>
> Hi to all again. Hard to start off my usual way but Melissa is still a
> 'problem tranny child'! Ha...Even after correctly adjusting the linkage it
> is still a problem. For the first 30 minutes of driving as I said before,
> it
> is okay. However, after that, if I floor it from a dead stop it stays in
> gear to long and of course, kickdowns, the wrong ones, happen at too fast
> of
> a speed. I will say this though...Thanks to the group my G is the fastest
> that it has EVER been! Don't get me wrong...Melissa really needed it.
> Thanks
> to Bob J. and the group! Anyways I stayed off the listserver for a while
> because I was a little embarrased, but I can't save my face and my %$s at
> the same time so here it goes: I need to ask Greg for my money back or
> have
> him take her apart all the way, and start with the correct book. Can
> someone
> please assist me to obtaining a pamphlet or booklet on the correct way to
> rebuild the letter car trans, not the New Yorker? Do I
> need the 1960 Chrysler/Imperial book? Will that info given to Greg be
> sufficient? I seem to have misplaced my '60 manual but I do Have my '61.
> Do
> I need '60? Another question, can the torque converter hub runout be
> incorrect!? I remember someone bringing that to question at one time and
> maybe I should have looked closer into that. If so, Greg needs to know
> that.
> Greg needs to rebuild by the book, or my $ back! I hope that doesn't
> become
> 'interesting' but I know he can also follow instructions because he did a
> GRET job the linkage adjustment. The anti-stall unit was even in the
> correct
> position.
> .....Anyways, I need help and I also need to remember how great this club
> is
> so I shouldn't really feel embarrased, it's just time for me to get this
> tranny fixed once and for all. This has been going on for a couple of
> years
> now and as a good member told me, it's time to move on!! :-)
>
> Sincerely & 300ly, Brandt H J with yes, a G.
>
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